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Which states require permission?
Hopefully a good representation of states on the board....Im wondering which states require permission to hunt on private land and if they do, is it written or verbal. Im from VT where its not required and have hunted OH where written is required but those are the only two I know!
Thanks all in advance! D |
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Well you have to have permission here
So you are saying in Vermont you can hunt private land and the landowner cant stop you??? |
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You have to have permission in FL.
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In NC you have to have written permission...
I wouldn't go on someone else's land without it...It's called tresspassing... |
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In VT you only need permission (verbal only) if you want to erect a treestand or ground blind on private property and also during the youth weekends for different species...other than that, unless its posted, I can freely hunt thru. If the landowner comes out and says to leave, Id have to but without notice I can hunt as I please.
Reason I ask is that Id like to see that changed here!! |
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DPRS, where's "here" for you? Your state isnt on your profile?
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ORIGINAL: dtabor In VT you only need permission (verbal only) if you want to erect a treestand or ground blind on private property and also during the youth weekends for different species...other than that, unless its posted, I can freely hunt thru. If the landowner comes out and says to leave, Id have to but without notice I can hunt as I please. Reason I ask is that Id like to see that changed here!! |
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Must have permission from a land owner in WI, otherwise it is unlawful trespassing, and we take it VERY seriously. I know in ND, unless it is posted, you can hunt someone else's private property without having to get permission to do so.
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You need to have at least verbalpermission in Iowa, andwhen dealing with some people, I would recommend getting written permission, you never know when problems will arise...
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In Pa, technicall you are supposed to have permission, but MANY (too many) people go by if its not posted, its open & huntable.
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Verbal permission in South Dakota. Around here there aren't too many problems though, most people know everyone, and know if it is okay to hunt on a particular piece of property or not.
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A common misconseption in IL is that you have to have permission to enter upon a private property. True in the instance of a building but not land. Unless you have been told prior to entering upon that property that you are not welcome it is open game. One way to get around that is to post your ground clearly from all sides.
(720 ILCS 5/21‑3) (from Ch. 38, par. 21‑3) Sec. 21‑3. Criminal trespass to real property. (a) Except as provided in subsection (a‑5), whoever: (1) knowingly and without lawful authority enters or remains within or on a building; or (2) enters upon the land of another, after receiving, prior to such entry, notice from the owner or occupant that such entry is forbidden; or (3) remains upon the land of another, after receiving notice from the owner or occupant to depart; or (3.5) presents false documents or falsely represents his or her identity orally to the owner or occupant of a building or land in order to obtain permission from the owner or occupant to enter or remain in the building or on the land; [/align]commits a Class B misdemeanor. [/align] |
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Ray,
Am i missing something here.Doesnt the Illinois regulation, at least in the hunting regulations booklet, specificically state that one is required to have permission to hunt on someone's land whether it is posted or not. |
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IL Conservation act does have a trespass rule but it is class b and a $75.00 fine.
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So what they are referring to in the hunting regs is essentially a minor misdeamenor as opposed to criminal trespass?
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That is the way I understand it. There was a guy several years ago who didnt have his property posted and threw a fit about a guy hunting on it. The CPO wrote him a trespass ticket. The guy paid $75.00 and didnt even have to appear in court. People we arrest on state statute must appear in court for a trespassing. We are all the time giving trespass warnings to people that way if they are caught on a property they dont get the pass go.
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Didn't know the fine would be so cheap. But then again, there is an outfitter in my area who has all his ground (owned and leased) posted, but tends to wander onto other people's ground. He has openly bragged that it doesnt matter because he can afford the fine if he gets caught.
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Wouldnt be Fox River Outfitters would it?
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NH motto is "live free or die" and with NO sales taxes.
However we are considered the granite state, which says too me, we are rock heads...[&:] ~ Unless it's posted every 50' around perimeter of land, signed and dated every year it is not trespassing. |
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Dont like the no permission part, but do like the clearly marked boundaries part.
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Verbal permission here in Ne. Alot of people say "I got permission" so you never know who's lying for sure.
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Written permission required in CT for deer and turkey, Written permission for deer only in RI.
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Alabama requires hunter to have on his/her person awritten permisison, dated andsigned, from the land owner that includes a brief description of the property upon which permission has been granted.
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In Ohio you are supposed to have written permission but as of yet I have not had written permission since I only hunt on my extended family's ground
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In Tennessee, you are supposed to have written permission on your person from the land owner, but it has been awhile since i had permission to hunt private land. when i did i just did it verbally and that was good enough, at least we never had any problems.
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~ Unless it's posted every 50' around perimeter of land, signed and dated every year it is not trespassing. |
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In some portions of NC if you do not have your private land posted every 40ft and you catch someone hunting there the only thing you can do is tell them to leave.
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Here in MO you have to have verbal permission to hunt and also to retrieve a down animal.
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ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche Didn't know the fine would be so cheap. But then again, there is an outfitter in my area who has all his ground (owned and leased) posted, but tends to wander onto other people's ground. He has openly bragged that it doesnt matter because he can afford the fine if he gets caught. Even if it IS legal to hunt on private land without permission, it violates appropriate hunting ethics. My family owns land, and we hate it when trespassers are on there. Ifhunters want access to landfor hunting,other huntersneed to weed out (report) those who violate the laws or hunting ethics. |
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A person uses their hard earned money to purchase land and then others can freeload and trespass for free or without permission, Unbelievable thatsome states allow trespassers on private land! In missouri it is trespassing posted or not! Not posted second degree trespass, posted first degree, with firearm criminal trespass.
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In Va. Non posted land verbal ,posted land must be written.If caught on posted land without written permission it is possible $2500.00 fine and /or up to 1 year in the crossbar hotel.
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Written permisson in Arkansas, but its really not enforced at least where I live.
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Indiana requires permission from the landowner, but doesn't specify written. If the landowner calls the cops you'll get a warning the first time, for a second occurence the landowner can have you charged with simple trespass.
My own view is different. If I catch you on my land and don't know you the reason why I should have will be pointed at your midsection and you'll be ******ed off the property with a clear warning to never return. An armed person on my property without my direct invitation will be viewed as a threat to my safety and a test of my state's Castle Doctrine law. |
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ORIGINAL: Phil from Maine ~ Unless it's posted every 50' around perimeter of land, signed and dated every year it is not trespassing. One of the reason's NH says signs every 50', signed and dated, is because land is sold so often. So someone that owned that land last year, may not own it next year... |
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No doubt. I ain't ever heard of such a thing. I think you can legally be shot in TX for hunting on someone elses land. :D
ORIGINAL: TimberCreek A person uses their hard earned money to purchase land and then others can freeload and trespass for free or without permission... |
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Just thougth Id give some updates.....Out of 24 states that Ive got answers for, only 5 dont require permission, my state being one of them.
I also thought it might be interesting to know that I contacted the 3 legislators for my district in VT. Only one has corresponded with me but Im sure they are toobusy due to economic and deficit issues to bother with my petty issue!! The one that has been less than supporting of the issue. Said, "I talked with the powers to be, and the permission idea was not well received." Seems funny, those elected dont like it but thus far out of everyone Ive spoken with that I know in VT, all but 2 have been in favor!! |
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Heres how it is in NY:
Q. Must I post to keep people off my property? A. No. Trespassing is illegal even on unposted property, unless it is unimproved, apparently unused and unfenced (or not otherwise enclosed to exclude intruders.) Even on vacant land, a written notice delivered in person (or by certified mail with a signed receipt, etc.) to any person, in the name of the landowner or authorized party, containing a description of the premises and a warning of restrictions which apply has the same effect, for that person, as if the land were posted with those restrictions. Likewise, anyone asked to leave the premises, posted or not, by the landowner, occupant or other authorized person, must do so immediately. |
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Well, here are some responses from some VT hunters....Thought Id show you the attitudes we are up against here:
"You know getting permission for you guys that own your little food plots or have good friends that own land is fine but what about the guys who like to roam the mountainous regions of this state ,I hunt many mountainous regions of this state and i am sure that several time a year I have crossed on to someones private land,unposted,I think you guys want to make this state like many of the midwestern states where you even look a cross someone else property they want to have you arrested for tresspassing!!I for 1 dont agree with this proposal hope it never comes to pass,Just for the record I do have permission to hunt several parcels in farm country but unless its a quick hunt,1 hr or so i wood rather be roaming the mountains then sitting over some Food plot waiting for a whitetail to come to this baiting!!Just my thoughts" "You guys are really opening a can of worms here and I will tell you why. Just in my area there is a large company that owns thousands of acres of land that is open to the public for hunting. There is also hundreds of acres owned by our town library that are also open to hunting. In both cases neither of these organizations will give any written permission to hunt or to put up tree stands. I know this first hand as does my brother and it is all for legal liability reasons. These are just two local places that I know of and I am sure there are plenty of company owned lands throughout the state including logging lands that would require permission. If you guys push this through you will have effectivly and immeadiatly shot yourselves in the foot. " "Permission to hunt law, If it is not broke don't fix it. Spend a lot of time hunting in Vermont and have very little problem getting permission to hunt, even on posted land. If a land owner does not want hunters or people unknown to him/her on the land they will and do post their property. There are a lot of land owners that don't mind folks hunting, hiking or just plain enjoying the property. Why go looking for a problem" |
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At the risk of getting piled on, I will say that I can understand some of the original logic behind this. I think that in the old days folks did tend to wander around when hunting and it could be mutually beneficial. While your neighborCarl is on your back 40 trying to shoot a deer, you might be over on his pond shooting ducks, etc., etc.Also, when I was growing up in southern Illinois, lots of the olderfarmers did not hunt at all and it was almost a bother to them to have people always asking them to hunt since they did not care. Those that did care would post their ground.
I'm NOT saying that i agree with the situation in VT, just that I can see why it would have originally made sense to some folks. |
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I tried changing up the wording, getting away from "hunting" to see what their explanation would be, so far no responses....I said:
You buy a house/land and put a huge, fancy in ground swimming pool, nice outdoor hot tub and dig a huge pond and stock it with trophy trout. Under these other guys' thinking, I should just be able to go over to their house, swim in their pool with 5 of my buddies, hop in the hot tub for a bit then sit by their pond and fish out their trout.....After all, its not posted and whats theirs is for me to use right?? |
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