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OK last weekened i had an 11 pointer come to the grunt call. I shot him quartering away at about 55 yards. He bedded down with in 20 yds but when i walked over to look for blood he took off. There was blood in the bed, but he ran over to another guys stand. He shot when the buck was facing directly away into the back. The buck dropped in his tracks but when we approached it he took off. IT turned out his shot had no exit wound and never entered the vitals, itwent in and then deflected and went straight along the back never breaking the back bone. the deer had a slow but continuous blood stream (Small drops here and there) for probably 500-600 yds. One spot there was a thick cuagulated clump of dark blood right after i jumped him by my stand the first time. We saw the buck standing in the middle of a field and then it went into a swamp didnt run or anything. We circled the swamp and they drove it towards me. The second guy who shot after me downed the buck as it tried to run out from the cattails at about 5 yds. Whos buck is it? My shot hit behind the front leg about an inch back, but low andbroke the bottom of the rib cage or brisket, but didnt really enter the rib cage, possibly a little on the bottom. The long blood trail was from my shot because his didnt have any exit wound. Would my shot have been lethal, think it hit an artery, would it have caused internal bleedingor what do you think happenrd. So whos deer do you think it is? He had the final kill shot at 5 yds as it tried to escape its bed in the cattails, but i had the first shot and the one that caused the blood trail.

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THE GUY WHO DOWNED IT ,IT DOESNT SOUND LIKE YOUR SHOT WAS LETHAL

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His.

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The buck was dying in the swamp when he shot him. HE could harldy make it out of hte cattails. The bottom of the brisket where Ishot him firstwas shattered and the blood was a darkish red in some areas doesnt that meen a artery hit or internal bleeding. Ill put up pics.

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I'd say it's his. In my opinion, the first person to make a lethal shot--or what would reasonably been assumed to be a lethal shot. Your shot doesn't sound lethal. Perhaps it was, but without having given the bedded deer time to expire if it was lethal, you forfeited that deer.

Who ended up tagging it? Who kept it?

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I have heardthree schools of thought on this subject. If the deer is "On the hoof" it is fair game. First to draw blood and,The other was first lethal hit claims the deer. I have hadthis situation come up and I willnot argue or fight over a deer in those cases.

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First off, if the deer ran by another guys stand that close to you, you need to find a new place to hunt. If that is not an option, I would start shooting deer high (about 4" below the back line) in the shoulders, where the neck, spine and shoulders all come together. They will always drop on the spot where they get hit. No running off past another guys stand. If you had hit him right, you should have waited at least 20 minutes for the deer to bleed out, thus avoiding the situation also. It is difficult to see a deer go down in sight and not think he is dead. It happened to me once with the bow and the gun.

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I would agree with the above its whoever killed it.It soundsthere is a whole bunch of people in your area who need serious shooting lessons. How many rounds did you all throw at that deer? Also make sure you give your deer more time after you pop him to either die or stiffen up.

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The guy that shot the buck in the cattails. I doubt that the buck would have died from the description of your shot, low and didn't enter the rib cage. You should have aimed higher.

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My Shot(PIC)

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Its a nice looking buck for sure
though. Gratz .

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Whose tag is on it? That will end ALL debate[:@] It's his deer. 500-600 yds. trailing/tracking, deer goes into swamp, drive is organized, same guy who hit it after you ends up shooting it off the drive after considerable time. Yup, his deer.

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I shot once and he shot once, and then the final shot as she tried to get up in the cattails. Do you think my shot would have been lethal since he bled for so long

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The Buck was dying in the cattails anyway, all he had to do was walk up and finish it off. It was when they followed my blood trail into the swamp that they found it bedded

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this just happened where i hunt on state land first kid hit it in the liver secound kid downed it they ruled on the secound kid being he downed it

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oh yea that was yesterday

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When he shot it at 5 ft in the cattails they were on the blood trail and went into the swamp from the back hoping that if he was alive it came out my way. So it wasnt really a drive just a search. Earlierwhen it saw us in the field it wouldnt even run just slowly walked away.

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When he first bedded down within 20 yds of where i shot there was a couple bubbles in the blood. Is it possible that part of my slub fragmented and hit part of the lung or nicked the heart?

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You both made poor shots, but he put it down. With your shot, you wouldn't hit the heart or lung.

I know it stings, and I have been in this situation. But its the way it is.

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I think the other guy's shot would have been more fatal than yours. Your shot would have probably healed over time. His however would have been fatal. Maybe in several hours or a day but fatal none the less. Then, his final shot earned him the right to tag it.
Although this has never happened to me, I have dispatched fatally wounded deer. One time I had the hunter running up to me saying 'that's my deer'. Legally I could have legally tagged it but I just nodded saying I know I was just saving you some more tracking and left him to his business.

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His buck... Sorry guy

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I was always raised that it is the persons that got first blood whether it was lethal or not.

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He put it down, his deer.
-jake

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Dang, there are plenty more out there. I've never seen someone so worried about a rack. I'll bet if it were a doe, you'd be telling the guy its his because he killed it, not you.

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his buck, sorry bud

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he made the last lethal shot, so his.

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I was raised that a deer belonged to the person who drew first blood too. But these days, it's pretty much whoever shot the deer last who owns it.

Like, if you shot a deer, and it ran around for a week, and someone else shoots it and puts it down, it belongs to them. That's kind of extreme, but if you shoot one and it runs 100 yards to someone else and they get another bullet in them and knocks it over dead... It's theirs. Unless you can somehow know which bullet hole was yours and which one was more fatal.

Back home we always just left it up to a coin toss.

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It's HIS deer ...not yours ......no biggie....go out and kill a buck for yourself now

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SOunds to me that both of you need to get out to the range and practice more. But id say the guy who actually killed it.

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You can tell more about lethal shots of a deer after it is skinned if there is any questions. Can't tell anything about this picture that would make me say you had a lethal shot.

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his, not yours

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interesting

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His. But why did you get out so early if he bedded that close to you?

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His buck.

Should have let it lay longer after the first shot. Especially if you werent sure if it was a good shot or not.

Similarthing happened to me a few years back. Hunting on private land, bordering state woods. Snow on ground. Someone shot a buck too far back to be a kill shot. I saw it all happen. Buck took off like a bat out of hell, running full speed towards state woods. I took a bead on it and dropped it in its tracks @ 150 yds (300 win mag, 150 gr ballistic reloads). I claimed the buck, although there was a blood trail in the snow from his shot. Who knows, his shot may have never killed it. His wasnt a fatal shot. His shot was evenonly minutes before mine,and I claimed it.Right or wrong, personal opinion maybe, was my buck.

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Not even debateable...it is the 2nd shooters buck...last shooter before death takes it...

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His. This happened in Colorado to a buddy of mine. A father and son shot a cow and it ran to where my buddy jumped it up from its bed and he shot and killed it. Well the father and son saw my buddy when he was walking out and asked if he saw a cow that was shot. He told them he just shot a cow that was shot before and was going back to get help. The father said it was theirs and after a little argument and being outnumbered two to one with rifles and handguns he let them have it. He was pretty upset though.

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if he downed it i'd say it's his. my biggest buck had a bullet hole in what i would call the "armpit" area. i put him down, so i dragged him out.

good luck on your next hunt!

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It's yours IMHO... I don't care who downed it, you drew first blood. If I shot a buck that someone else had already shot, I wouldn't try to say it was mine. Theres nothing worse than shooting a deer and have it run and someone else try to claim it.

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Funny, but sometimes this happens except that it involves a doe. Each person who shot it would prefer to save their tag for a buck, so the argument is actually over who has to take it and tag it.

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I agree, if it wouldnt have had horns, I bet it would have been a different discussion!