shotgun guys.............
 

im tryin the lightfield hybred elite 3in this year, after having no luck with winchesters xp3s at 20$ a box. anyone had good luck with the lightfields?

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not with light field but yes with bernekes

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Lightfield EXP's are awesome.Very accurate and great expansion on deer.

But do you really need the 3" Magnums? I shoot a 2-3/4" 20 gauge and it has beenbad medicine for deer with the EXP's so far.
My shoulder hurts just thinking about shootingthem off of a bench.

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It's been my experience also that the 2-3/4 group better than the 3's, and as previously stated, your shoulder will thank you.

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I had the same experience with Winchester shells. They're straight garbage! I love Remington so I'll support them by buying their shells. And my 11-87 loves them.

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The man who got me involved into slug guns swears by them. If he says Lightfields are good..... You can take it to the bank.

Also note I already had my gun sighted in with Hornady SST's before I knew what he shot. He said they where just as fine a round as Lightfields. They both run about the same at Gander Mountain ..... roughly around $12 a box.

You should do just fine with the Lightfield.....

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Try the winchester platinums instead. A lot of guns don't like the fast light bullets. I have always had it the other way around, winchester worked great and Remington was horrible to so so out just about every gun I have owned. It's usually the last manufacturer I will try.

Paul

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I also use the Hybred Elite 3"....and love them to death! Albeit I don't use my shotguns as much as I do my muzzleloader when deer hunting, but the Lightfields group great and drop deer.

This was the year I was going down to the 2¾"....but I already got my buck with my bow....so I won't be gun hunting this year.

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The lightfields are GREAT! I just got a new shotgun and the 2 3/4 EXP groups really good for any slug !!!! I highly recommend them to anyone !;)

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Hybreds are accurate but man, they are soft! I almost lost my best buck using one of them, went in the center of ribs and never came out, just found the wad and lead fragments inside. Had to shoot him again after I jumped him during recovery.

They should have kept the commander ( much better design IMO) and discontinued the hybred instead

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I tried all of the Lightfields, and none of them shot well in my gun ( Browning Gold 12 gauge). The Browning shoots the Hornady'sexcellent though, and clover leafs at 75 yards with them. All guns are different, you just have to find the slugs that perform the best in your particular gun.

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I shoot a 870 wingmaster with a hastings (1:34" twist) w/ a cantilever mount andan aimpoint redot up top. I have tried EVERY slug out there ans the hybred elites by far goup the best in my gun. at 50 yards its a ragged one hole group. and at 125 yards 1.5-2" groups are pretty regular. but they are a maximum expansion slug and at close range they fly apart in deer

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thanks for the replies, but yea three inch probably isn't necessary, but i want to put em down even if it is over kill lol. ive always heard good things about these slugs, cant wait to send one flyin at a biggun this year(hopefully)... take that back, i hope i have arrowed a biggun by then!!

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I shoot the lightfields 2 3/4 white box. I have gotten great results with them

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What do you mean No luck with Win XP3's at $20a box?

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I havent used the Lightfields....I really have no reason to try anything but the hornaday sst 300gr in my 12gauge. They shoot just excellent at 100yrds. Im sure each gun is going to like a certain one more than the other. Most all of the hornaday ammo i have tried i have been pleased with.

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I disagree I've had plenty of luck with partition golds maybe it's your gun.

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can anyone tell me how to do the quote thing?? cause idk lol. but wat i meant by no luck with the xp3's at 20$ a box was that i couldn't get a group inside of 4-5 inches at 100 yards, and that theyre way to expensive for that. i have had good luck with the partition golds, i hunted with them year before last and they dropped my biggest buck, a small 8pt, with one shot straight through the heart.

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Like I said, both of those rounds are high speed loads, try something closer to 1500-1700 fps and I bet things work out better for you. The twist in your barrel is most likely more suited to a slower heavier bullet. Most of these guns were origingally designed to shoot a one ounce full bore slug at around 1500 fps. Both remington and winchester make slower 1 ounce loads with the newer style bullets. The Federal expanders with the Barnes bullets are pretty good performers as well. I couldn't get any of them to group well in my gun either though. I didn't have much luck with lightfields in my H&R, but others seem to. I didn't try that particular load though.

And a three inch load isn't going to do any more damage to a deer than a 2 3/4 inch will. As a matter of fact some of the 2 3/4 inch loads are faster than some of the 3 inch loads. You really need to look at the specs. All the faster rounds will do is give you a flatter trajectory for slightly longer shots. Doesn't do you much good though if they don't group well at those longer distances.

Paul

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I shoot the lightfelds and love them ..they are very accurate out of my remingtion 870 20 gauge

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thats why i went with the three inch, i wanted to take advantage of my rifled barrel and scope. the 2 3/4 shoot flat at 100, and the 3 in will get you out to 125 with no drop

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Depends on the load you pick, some 2 3/4 inch loads are faster than some 3 inch loads, you really need to do your homework in that area before you buy them. Boils down to the powder charge and weight of the bullet, not the length of the shell. Normally 3 inch shells are used to get more shot which isn't a concern with a sabot slug.

Paul

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thats what im sayin, i have done my homework on the lightfields, the 3inshoot flat out to 125 yards and the 2 3/4 in shoots flat out to 100.

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if you dont believe me go to lightfields website

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My gun spits the Hornady SST's too good to try anything else....however, Outdoor Life did a slug/sabot test and Lightfields were the accuracy King, according to their tests.

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I agree, it is my gun. My gun doesn't like cheap ammo. I'm referring to the Winchester Sport Shells that sell for $20 for a box of 100 at Wal-Mart. I shot a whole 100 shell box of that ammo and had 16 stoppages of different kinds. I came back the next day and shot a whole 100 shell box of Remington Sport Shells and didn't have one stoppage. That tells me that the issue is the ammo.

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You miss understood me I guess, I wasn't referring to only lightfield slugs, but all the slugs available on the market. Just because it is a 3 inch doesn't mean it will always be faster than a 2 3/4.

Take for instance the lightfield hybrid is 1750 fps in a 3 inch shell. Compare that to these other rounds.

Winchester Gold partition 385 grn at 1900 fps (probably why they didn't work to well in your gun, too light and fast would be my guess).

Wichester Platinum tip 400 grn at 1700 fps

Federal Barnes Expander 328 grn at 1900 fps

Remington Accutip 385 grn at 1850 fps

Remington corelokt ultra 385 grn at 1900 fps

Hornady SST 300 grn at 2000 fps

These are all 2 3/4 inch shells and as you can see depending on how they are loaded they can be just as fast or faster than a 3 inch load, shell length really means nothing with this type of ammo. There are also various 3 inch loads that fall in the 1500 fps range. I'm just saying don't just assume because it's a 3 inch magnum it will be faster and flatter, that is not always the case.

And some guns will prefer one over another, take for instance the winchester Super X sabot slugs. The difference between the 2 3/4 and 3 inch shell is only 50 fps, not really noticable trajectory wise, I bet they don't even hold that close of tolerance on a chronograph from shot to shot. Yet I have seen a few guns shoot great with the 2 3/4 inch rounds and shoot like crap with the 3 inch loads. When they are basically the same exact load. Go figure. Slugs guns really are quite finicky sometimes.


And I normally have the exact opposite findings between remington and winchester. Every gun I have had wouldn't shoot cheap remington ammo worth a darn, be it a shotgun or a .22. Lots of duds and missfires. Where as the cheap winchester ammo works without a hitch for the most part. Lets be honest, cheap bulk ammo is cheap bulk ammo for a reason. Maybe your gun just likes remington ammo better. It happens.

Paul

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the partition golds worked great, the xp3's were terrible through my gun. dissapointing because ive heard other people say good things about them. the lightfields have considerably more lead, 546gr. compared to 385, id rather have the lead than the extra 200 fps. i understand what youre saying about the smaller slugs, i just like the specs of the lightfields in 3in because they shoot almost as fast with that much lead.