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RE: Head shot on does
It seems to me that if you are trying to kill anything clean and quickly you would want to shoot the animal in an area that would give you the highest percentage of success. The reason people shoot behind the shoulder is because it's a large area that holds several vital organs (heart, lungs, liver). And when anyone of these organs is damaged severely the chance of mortality is not only most often certain, but also relatively quick.
The head is a much smaller target than a broadside shot, and the head swivels, raises and lowers which the mid-section does not. A good head shot would be just as good as a heart, liver, or lung shot, but if it is only just as good then why take a lower percentage shot? I don't think you lose nearly enough meat to justify a head shot over a behind the shoulder shot. |
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Every one has an opinion. Mine is this.
I have taken four doe with a head shot. All of them were within 50 yards, and all of them dropped in their tracks. If you are confident in your ability and the deer is calm, I see no problem with it. Just don't take stupid headshots on moving deer or anything. -Jake |
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ORIGINAL: nchawkeye Why not bucks as well??? Works on them as well...That's the shot I take with my .22... What state allows you to hunt deer with a .22 ??? |
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ORIGINAL: stabnslab_WI ORIGINAL: Arrowmaster I say behind the shoulder for me. I will never take a head shot. I believe a moderator should lock this post before tempers get out of hand. What? I have no clue what your talking about. I dont ask for threads to be locked. What are you smokin? Get your facts straight. |
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Ok Stabnslab_WI heres my opinion. You started a stupid thread. You started it to start drama. I sure know now not to visit anymore of your posts. This is my opinion and I wont debate you on this subject. have a nice day :)
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ORIGINAL: Otsdawa_Game_Hunter Last season we had a doe running around with a lower jaw missing and it took us 2 days to finally get her down. Some NYC "Vinny" from down state Mack pitiful |
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ORIGINAL: crokit ORIGINAL: nchawkeye Why not bucks as well??? Works on them as well...That's the shot I take with my .22... What state allows you to hunt deer with a .22 ??? |
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ORIGINAL: Buck747 It seems to me that if you are trying to kill anything clean and quickly you would want to shoot the animal in an area that would give you the highest percentage of success. The reason people shoot behind the shoulder is because it's a large area that holds several vital organs (heart, lungs, liver). And when anyone of these organs is damaged severely the chance of mortality is not only most often certain, but also relatively quick. The head is a much smaller target than a broadside shot, and the head swivels, raises and lowers which the mid-section does not. A good head shot would be just as good as a heart, liver, or lung shot, but if it is only just as good then why take a lower percentage shot? I don't think you lose nearly enough meat to justify a head shot over a behind the shoulder shot. |
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ORIGINAL: Pass_Thru Theres no wasted meat on a double lung shot. Id never take a head shot. Just to much room for error. Id feel horrible to see a hit in the jaw or thru the eye and have her get away, Just not a respectful shot in my opinion. Jay |
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depends on where you hit the jaw, square in the middle where it connects, deer is going down hard, way up at the front of the jaw, deer is going to live a long painfull death, but thats way off the mark of where you aim.
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heres a last day nh buck that took it in the face and a second to last day 156lb maine doe that took it in the temple. both 35 whelen entrance holes
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll4/skybuster20/Pictures108.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll4/skybuster20/Pictures006.jpg learn to shoot and you wont have to worry! |
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ORIGINAL: nchawkeye Why not bucks as well??? Works on them as well...That's the shot I take with my .22... |
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ORIGINAL: Tomkat08 ORIGINAL: nchawkeye Why not bucks as well??? Works on them as well...That's the shot I take with my .22... My taxidermist used to be a fan of head shots on does. Then he blew the jaw off one and found her dead of starvation much later. He lost alot sleep over that and swore off head shots. I'm a good shot too, but it's not worth compromising my ethics over a little bit of meat. Behind the shoulder for me. |
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That is a stupid shot. You should never try to shoot a deer in the head. I always go for the double lung or heart shot.
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hahahahha this is too funny. i guess guys who cant, shouldnt the rest of us will make decisions for OURSELVES as to where we want that front sight to land. the rest of you can be holier then thou'
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ORIGINAL: skybuster20ga ORIGINAL: crokit ORIGINAL: nchawkeye Why not bucks as well??? Works on them as well...That's the shot I take with my .22... I know. The post stated " .22 ". What state allows you to hunt deer with a .22 ??? |
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Skybuster...they won't ever switch over. If you can make the shot, then you can take the shot. And it is legal. so it is up to each person. those of us who do it, kill deer very efficiently with it. If you can keep good, accurategroups at 100 yards, then you can certainly smack a deer in the side of the head inside 50.
-Jake |
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i agree 100% up here if i shoot a deer over 50yds that would be out of the ordinary. tracking in the thick maine woods often only presents a set of eays part of a rack and a nose and eye.......i dont hesitate at all to take the shot.
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Every year 100's of deer are Gut Shot, Spine Shot, @$$ Shot and Legs Blown Off by hunters who are believers of Behind The Shoulder Shot........Why, because many don't bother to go to the range on the off season and Practice, Practice, Practice.....Or their scope are either mounted wrong or not sighted in properly.....[8D]
I have killed Deer by shooting them in the Temple, Ear, Neck, Behind The Shoulder and in the back of the Head and with .243, 6mm, 6.5mmSwede, .270, 7mm-08, .308, .30-30,.30-06, and .44Mag. I have also killed them with 20ga,12ga with 00Buck,Slugs, Sabots, .50cal Black Powderand never lost one. Do your practice shooting with small targets like 6" & 4" aluminum pie plates that can be seen @ 75 & 100yds. |
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i would shoot the next if need be. Not sure i would go for a head shot to much room to miss or wound the deer.
But i would not put down another hunt if he did and got the deer. I know people that can shoot a 22 shell at a 100 yards all day long. So i am sure they could. |
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Did any of you get the memo on deer hunting ethics??? Why shoot a deer in the head? Come on....stick with the program and do it right! Ridiculous..... |
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Though i agree ethics is a personal issue thust some may disagree. I see no reason for the shot unless it was the only shot you had and it meant feeding your hungry family. Today the chance of that deer being your only source of food is next to zero.
ORIGINAL: BowtechHunting Did any of you get the memo on deer hunting ethics??? Why shoot a deer in the head? Come on....stick with the program and do it right! Ridiculous..... |
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ORIGINAL: BowtechHunting Did any of you get the memo on deer hunting ethics??? Why shoot a deer in the head? Come on....stick with the program and do it right! Ridiculous..... |
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My very first buck was shot by somebody prior to me through the flap of skin where the neck begins (on the very bottom, under the neck). I didn't see it until I got him down. I remember thinking that if it was 1/2 to 1 inch higher, this poor deer would have really been in excruciating pain, likely shattering bone of mandible, but not killing it. The deer probably would have died from starving/malnutrition.
Don't do it. |
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ORIGINAL: Pass_Thru Theres no wasted meat on a double lung shot. Id never take a head shot. Just to much room for error. Id feel horrible to see a hit in the jaw or thru the eye and have her get away, Just not a respectful shot in my opinion. Jay |
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I shot a doea few years backthat i walked up on with both front legs hot off. It was trying to crawl and bawling. The hunter that shot that was a joke. the point here is be able to hit where you are aiming. Those of us that shoot day in and day out and are comofrtable with shots like a head or kneck shot, have great succes with it.
-Jake |
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ORIGINAL: stabnslab_WI How many people try for head shots on does so they can get the most meat out of their animal? I think it is a clean and ethical shot. |
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wow solo...lets just jump at each others necks here....it's an opinion and a legal option. to each his own..
-Jake |
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ORIGINAL: Bocajnala wow solo...lets just jump at each others necks here....it's an opinion and a legal option. to each his own.. -Jake |
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ORIGINAL: skybuster20ga ORIGINAL: Otsdawa_Game_Hunter Last season we had a doe running around with a lower jaw missing and it took us 2 days to finally get her down. Some NYC "Vinny" from down state in the land next to ours was the culprit because a shot was heard on their side and a few minutes later she came running over to our side, ran under my buddy's stand with her jaw missing and blood going everywhere. This doe ran around for days in pain and for what? We took the deer and dumped it at the bottom of their road with a cardboard sign around it's neck. phone calls made to tIt read "Hey A$$*&#@ if we see this again around here there will be he NYSDEC" So hell no to head shots! A round into the engine room works every time. If you need a head shot to down a deer because either you are too lazy/incompetent to track if necessary then you probably shouldn't be out there anyway. Mack |
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lol, well thanks for not voicing the other option than...but it is still a legal method, and we still do it.
-Jake |
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ORIGINAL: moose1915 ORIGINAL: Otsdawa_Game_Hunter Last season we had a doe running around with a lower jaw missing and it took us 2 days to finally get her down. Some NYC "Vinny" from down state Mack pitiful Now I've seen it all. Guess being called a redneck is next...... and don't offend guys named Mack either. |
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ooo man, dont say redneck I will be offended for sure!!!!
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I guess you could say the reason not to take head shots is the same reason we don't use a firing squad anymore....
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It is not ethical to TRY a head shot. No matter how good of a shot you are (or think you are), you cannot becertain ofa clean quick kill. The deer could mover or your aim could be a little off.
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ya you might have wacked that scope on a limp when walking in or hit a pot hole when driving to your spot. just to many if's
ORIGINAL: 7X57MAUSER It is not ethical to TRY a head shot. No matter how good of a shot you are (or think you are), you cannot becertain ofa clean quick kill. The deer could mover or your aim could be a little off. |
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ORIGINAL: Bocajnala ooo man, dont say redneck I will be offended for sure!!!! |
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ORIGINAL: Otsdawa_Game_Hunter A round into the engine room works every time. If you need a head shot to down a deer because either you are too lazy/incompetent to track if necessary then you probably shouldn't be out there anyway. Mack Frankly, if you can't consistently make a headshot at that range, then you're either incompetent or too lazy to practice your shooting skills, and you probably shouldn't be out there anyway... With a scope on 9X at 40 yards, you can pretty much pick out which strand of hair you want to hit... |
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Blanket question butto I answer I would say
Bow = No headshot. Rifle = Not usually, but have killed a couple with neck shots. Shotgun = Yes, I have killed a boat load of deer with 3 1/2" 00 buck headshots that werewell within the effective range andthat load has killed them graveyard dead everytime. Also depends on the type of hunting. When using tactics like pushes, man drives, ordeer dogs you don't always get a perfect broadside shot at a still deer. Just being honest. |
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Whats wrong with a double lung??? |
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