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Opinions are a great thing. They are one of the freedoms that we enjoy in this great country. So on that note, in my Opinion, neither candidate is correct on all the issues. The upside to Obama is that he is a Democrat and he supports the democratic views about the economy. You know, the ones that had the economy booming in the 90's. I also support the Republican views on gun laws and offshore drilling. Neither candidate is going to be right on everything but the Democrats seem to be right on the things that should matter the most and that is the economy. Without a good economy the ability to hunt goes away because we don't have the money buy ammunition or get gas to drive to your hunting spot. I do not want anyone to think that I support restrictive gun laws because I do not. Yes, Obama is wrong there but he will never be able to get the laws passed with all of us working against them. But you should never beleive that just because McCain is in office that these gun lobbyists will go away. With McCain in office we just will not have the money to fight them because all our money will be going to the oil companies and Iraq.

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For those interested. I also am a middle class American, Itoo think G. Bush has made some mistakes,BUT, No president since F.D.R. and Truman has had more catastrophies happen whileserving as president. Also, being middle class, I have lived within my means, saved a bit of money, and am enjoying the "middle class american dream". Sure, gas is high .. but you should seethe prices overseas.G. Bush stated BEFORE becomig president, that we (America) needed to drill inAlaska, and find other areas to drill (offshore) also, or the American people would see gas prices like they never had ... he was right.For those thinking of voting forObama, All I'll say when they come for our guns is.... Where were you when protecting our Second Amenment was in jeopardy.

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jimbo... you don't have a clue.

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Jimbo--

Not being a smart arse,but let me see isf I can guess your age...hhhmmmm I'd say around 23,24 tops...

There are alot of surprises in life,you just havent lived long enuff to experience most of them yet...Osama my arse...

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Would that be the views that are Socialistic?
Would that be the view that raises taxes?
Would that be the view that sells out our national soverenty to U.N. rule?
Or, might it be the view that taxes those who are willing to work, in order to give to those who will not work, opps I'm sorry, "to the poor"?

Oh, yeah, the economic boom of the 90's! That would be the economic boom wave that "Reganomics" started!

Contradictive statement! IF you support these views there's only ONE way to vote!

Yes, the economy does matter most! However, the economy, just like "freedom of speach," freedom of religion" and the whole rest of our Constitution RESTS ON THE PROTECTION PROVIDED BY THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

Thats a great strategy!
Tax the rich to make us all equal! (Socialism!)
Tax the busnesses that PAY our wages! (Might as well send the few American companies that we have left overseas!
Continue to tax "capital gains!" (Punishes theWORKING people investing their 401k's in the stock market!) (BTW, 401k's ARE a very large portion of whats invested in the market!
UniversalHealth Care! (Again, punishment ofthe working people who are RESPONSIBLE enough to pay for health care! Only to give "free" health care to those who are NOT RESPONSIBLE enough to provide for themselves!) ( BTW, this only LOWERS the QUALITY of health care forEVERYONE!)

Need the list go on? NO! The Democratic Party has perfected the LIE that they are for the "PEOPLE!" For those who continue to believe this LIE, the list could go on forever and you'd still not see the truth!
I'm not "rich," I believe it is ourDUTY to care for those who are down and out and CANNOT take care of themselves!
It is NOT our duty to care for those who WILL NOT care for themselves! The bible says " Let those who WILL Not work, not eat!"
I AM "Union!" AND, the Republican Party IS NOT perfect! However, I CANNOT support a party that kills babies, wants to distroy the Constitution and give our freedom to the U.N.!!!!
Finally, let's be REALISTIC, the two party system is a FAILURE! But, also being "REALISTIC," a third party candidate doesn't have a chance!
I''ll take the "lesser of two evils," (Republican Party) any day! Especially when the platform of the"lesser of two evils" is MILES apart from the Democratic Party!

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First of all I thought this country had advanced to a point where we all could live together dispite the physical attributes that seperated us. MrPhotographer06 I have no clue who you are, but its people like you that are holding the rest of the world back. Your comment on this post disturbs me not only because its racist but because this website didn't address it. C H A N G E Come Help A ****** Get Elected for those of you who didnt know what it meant. We down and talk about comments made by animal rights activists, but its seems as thought some guys on here tolerate racists better than them.
Secondly, we all have our political views and beliefs. I am an African American and was not an Obama fan. Contrary to popular belief all Black people are not Pro-Obama, but I dont base my opinion on the simple fact that he voted to ban hand guns. Someone made the comment that he is not a Christian because of some of his views. Wow! Are you serious? LET HE THAT IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE..... For all of you true Christians out there.
I was a and still am a McCain fanbut its not becauseed I want to keep my gun.My advice to you all is to get educated and actually do some research instead of reading blogs on the net and listening to people like Mrphotographer06. Your views are your views but know ALL ofthe facts and the truth before you make your decision. I enjoy HNI and hate the fact that people like MrPhotographer06 has the capability of corrupting it. To all of you who feel like him...well..never mind. This is a place for us hunters to come and give advice or just chew the fat. I respect each and everyone of you, except MrPhotographer06 and friends. I have never met any of you and could care less about what you look like. Lets not turn HNI into another racial battle ground.
Jimbo I respect your post. Its way more to freedom than owning a gun. For all of you who are ignorant to actual gun control legislation, it is virtually impossible to take the nations right to own a hand gun away.

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I work for the Federal and State government and on a regular basis meet with my state representatives, senators and their constituents. I'm voting for Obama. I want change. Your guns will not be taken away. The propaganda that has entrenched your minds is the result of the media and the O'Reilly's seen on the boob tube. Their are more issues involving everybody in this world than gun control. I don't hunt with a assault rifle, I don't believe they need to be on the streets. McCain has had 4 bouts of Cancer and if Palin became President then God help us all. She needs to realize that she isn't running for the PTA but for the Vice Presidency of the USA. I"m not a democrat nor republican. I vote for the better administration. McCain is the mirror image of Bush and I'll be ***** if I'll vote for that.

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Your gonna get CHANGE alright--but b4 you realize what damage you did by voting for that jr.senator--it will be to late.

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Not ALL change is good, even in a bad situation...Just because things are bad, many changes can take a turn for the worse. Obama preaches change, which he undoubtedly would deliver....Im just worried about which direction those changes lead us.

Hard to deny JagMagMans logic folks. Nobama here as well.

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This statement alone goes to show how media brainwashing can work.



yes the eonomic boom of the 90's--balanced budget,lower taxes,surpluss not deficit, and low fuel cost. We had none of these with your beloved "Reganomics". If reganomics started this how come it did not happen till the mid 90's and not 10 years earlier. This is the same arguement I here all the time. Regonomics had nothing to do with the economy of the 90's.



Here we go quoting the bible again. What ever happened to seperation of church and state.
Yes, I agree with you. Those whowill not work should not eat. But what about those who CANNOT work. What abouthealthcare. What about "IGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
I am tired of everyone making political judgements based on religious beliefs. I have no problem with you running your life based on a book written 2000 years ago but our free country should be run by a qualified individual and not someone who bases everything soley on religion. That is the foundation of this country. If you believe religion should control the masses then move to the Middle East.

And if you think letting a woman do to her body what her basic human rights allow her to is wrong then you support taking away the right to freedom and choice. If you take away freedom and choice, you take away the second amendment(you know the one we all on this forum are fighting for)

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Thank you. It's about time someone here understands what I am saying. I have my views and you have yours. I do not agree with Downsouth13 on everything but I do agree with the fact that they cannot take our guns away. It is because of this statement that I also respect your post and your views because you have the right to them. My views are my views and they are not wrong just like all of everyone elses views are not wrong. I might not agree with them but they are not wrong. I never said anybody was wrong in any one of my posts I just put my views out there.

Iwould like you to clue me in then. I am always open to suggestions.

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actually I am 31, Married to a beautiful woman for 5 years and we have 2 children ages 11 and 3. Yes there are a lot of suprises and I can't wait for them. I love a suprise!

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This all a steamin pile of BS really. The media IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM is going to downplay Obama, Get real:eek:. The only brainwashing the media is doing is pro obama.the media is extremely liberal, except Fox which is very conservative. I get tired of hearing media as an excuse for libs, heck the media IS libs.

Clinton's admin wasnt that strong either....Its easy to coattail after the wake of the best president this country has ever had, not to mention Clinton drained programs such as the Army to cut national spending.


Your statement is bold irks me though. Ifanticide is a whole nother topic than abortion, assuming you are pro choice on abortion. Infanticide, which Obama supported at one point, involves killing babies who are already born from a failed abortion. 7 month babies can easily make it with todays tech, yet it is LEGAL to leave them to die when born.


Move to the middle east real cute.....This country was based on religious views and foundations....Hell its in our documents and even on our money. If you cant accept that, maybe it is you who should start packing pal.

I honestly dont know where some of these trains of thoughts even originate......I fear it is fixin to be sad times ahead for this beloved country.

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Vote MaCain / Palin

Especially Palin!

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Well there is no doubt McCain has my vote BUT the reason certainly isn't focused on a single issue.
I think Bush has hurt this country financially, internationally, our pride, our world standings in education, health, and billions and billions thrown right to KBR/Halliburton Cheney cronies. No -- we have more issues than guns gents and votingfor a candidateon asingle issue contingent is just Un-American. Just what good has Bush's hand-holding friendships with the Saudi's done for this country ?
McCain has 73 lobbyists in his employ for his presidential campaign. Hey. I'm just a small guy running my own business, but when McCain's top 3 campaign workers work directly for the b*sturds that just about tipped us over and still may, I see "other issues" that ALSOneed our attention.
My father was in the Battan Death March and I was raised to believe that only very "Bad Guys" use torture, as have 90 % of the rest of the world, and they too have given patriots blood for freedom. I am left with few answers and many questions.
---- Roberoo
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The economy during the 90's was thanks to Reagan? Don't think so. It had to do with the president in office at the time. Just like what we see now is a product of the Bush administration.

This gun thing is silly, really. So a democrat is saying what typical democrats say. They push for more gun control than their republican opponent. Give me a break, guns are NEVER going away. We will always have our guns and I don't care who gets in office, the guns are here to stay.

Yes, if the economy doesn't get back on track, a bunch of guns in your gun closet aren't going to take precedence over other issues i.e. being able to work, others being able to work, businesses doing well so spending is up and the economy is strong.

I'm not worried about it. Obama will win and this country will get back on track. Can't wait.

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I dont like either one of them.

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You pro Obama guys screaming for improved economics need to seethe link I posted on page 3.....he and his cronies are a big reason we are in the crapper.....DO SOME RESEARCH....PLEASE!!!

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Damn Dems are a socialist bunch.....the most liberal Senator in the nation and some folks want to elect him President of The United States. Europe and our enemies love him for a reason.

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I will keep My Money, My Freedom and My Guns You can keep the Change!!

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"Do my research ?" Well you may have missed the whole Keating 5 incident but I didn't. Research has to do as much with where you look, and who you read, as it does it's intrinsic value. I may not agree with this(below -- and I may)as there are 2 sides to every argument and just because one or the other says it, "Don't make it so!" 78% of America is fed up and want change from this Bush presidency, and that means CHANGE not another 4 or 8 years ofthis"same old same old -different face-same boss"http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo

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OMG. Are you all serious. They wont and CANT take your guns. This is the same thing the NRA pulled with bush in 01 and 04 and look where that got us. If you vote for MCCAIN then thats fine but please dont do it cause of this. This is ignorance. Its our civil right to bear arms. Sound familiar? Please dont tell me that your buying these 'home made' ads.

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Joffutt1 wrote " Please dont tell me that your buying these 'home made' ads."

No more or less than I'm buying the other-sides "home made ads" -- The quality of thelives of my kids and their children are dependant on MANY factors-not just guns. Asmy guns aren't going anywhere,I am concerned withthe value of my house. With 2 families on this block being foreclosed on,I'm losing equity every day.
You canblame who you will, but this happened (is happening)after the 1st- 4 yearson a Bush watch, not 10 years ago. Wall Street was deregulated and allowed to run wild, so you saw themgo for the publics juggler vein.Now the greedis takingall but the crooks down. You would have thought we would have learned something from Enron. Quite frankly I don't want another Bushwith "Bimbo." I want to see things turn around as I'm sure you do. McCain talks change, but has never explained what that means.90+ % of the timeMcCain hasvoted with Bush, is what it has meant, historically.When do we start learning from history ?
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1 post........

Supreme Court Justices are appointed by the POTUS......the decision on the DC gun ban speaks volumes........naive aren't you?

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Half of these gun bans arnt even bans at all. Most of them are just suppressing assualt rifles and the others are just requirements to register (which are already there) and keep record of what guns we have. Tell me. How many of you are walking in the woods with 9 mm to deer hunt or even some assault rifles. Not many robberies are with ..270's or 30-30's so why would they be concerned with these. Yep its that simple. The democrats are all after the guns. Period. Obama hates guns. Yeah im sure he really cares about your deer hunting rifle when he needs to concentrate on the economy, gas prices, job employment, and oh howabout that war? But, you can bet your bottom dollar. The first day in office. Your 30-06. GONE. Give me a break.

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You use words like assault weapon, my .22 LR that holds 18 cartridges would be grouped in that class..............my squirrel rifle would be considered an assaultgun - WAKE UP

Criminals and felons like unarmed citizens.....ever been to Chicago? No handguns for self protection, no concealed carry permits for personal protection.....What does the 2nd amendment say and who is the Illinios Senator running for POTUS?

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I agree 100%. At this point in time I am pretty sure the economy and the war are far more important than taking away our guns for hunting.

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Yeah i have been in chicago. About 6 months ago. I guess you wont be hunting for a while. Let me give you all a little wake me up. This morning. They had the graphic on TV that had the red/blue states and what all the scenarios are. There were 10 grey undecided states. They said that for MCCAIN to win that he would have to take them ALL. For Obama to win he would only need one and it would like be PA. I guess will see soon enough. ready for a change?Oh theyll take your bows to. Its sharper then a fork so they want it. :eek:

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And I am pretty sure his 1st order of business as president is to not worry about the war, the economy, unemployment,drugs,healthcare. He is going to go right after your guns because they matter more than to him than anything else.

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Sportsmen
Barack Obama did not grow up hunting and fishing, but he recognizes the great conservation legacy of America's hunters and anglers and has great respect for the passion that hunters and anglers have for their sport. Were it not for America's hunters and anglers, including the great icons like Theodore Roosevelt and Aldo Leopold, our nation would not have the tradition of sound game management, a system of ethical, science-based game laws and an extensive public lands estate on which to pursue the sport. Barack Obama and Joe Biden recognize that we must forge a broad coalition if we are to address the great conservation challenges we face. America's hunters and anglers are a key constituency that must take an active role and have a powerful voice in this coalition.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/additional/#sportsmen

Here ya go all you OBAMA haters. Sounds like hes after you.

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here i go. i'm guess its my turn to stir some stuff up. But anyone that casts their vote on a single issue like gun control( especially with one of the most powerful and richest lobbiest group backing your views)is basically throwing their vote away. whether its for McCain or Obama. I believe that we have a duty as american citizens to do the proper research (not just looking for reason to not vote for someone) and make a decision that will be good for the country as a whole and not just completely forour personalwants.

And for any of you that ask I will not say whoI am goin to vote for because it is my decision to make andI have no interest in hearing everyone trying to sway my vote, for the simple fact that i'm not going to try to change your mind either.

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Exaclty. Im not saying to dont vote MCCAIN but i do say is get the facts. Dont let guns be the reason you vote cause its a moot point. People are dying in a never ending war, the economy is terrible, jobs are disappearing, health care is nonexistant, and the value of your belongings are going to nothing. I love my guns and bows and knives and crave the outdoors just like the rest of you. Vote because you feel that one is going to lead the country in the right direction not to be afraid that Obama will lead in the worlds greatest gun elimination.

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Gentlemen, guns are far from the only reason I am not voting for a Democratto be the nextPOTUS.....carry on.

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Anybody that votes for Osama is pretty much giving away their money and guns....WAKE up people.

On a lighter note,Osama as a jr.senator with 36 months in office passed 36,000,000 Million in Pork spending..JMcCain in 21 years in the senate..not one dime in Pork spending..HHMMM.

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I think you read what you want to read and if it supports obama you disregard it and if it slams him its gospel that you are willing to share with everyone. All media has an agenda whether it is conservative or liberal. Words are twisted, turned and taken completely out of context then presented in the news.

On another point watching the video on why our economy is in the crapper. Yes it because real estate and mortgage lenders were giving money out based on speculation. However some fault needs to placed on regular people that were so stupid to think that because a mortgage lender says they could make payments on a 300,000 dollar home that they could afford it. Balloon and arm mortgages are great if you don't intend to live there long. If you make 3000$ amonth and your mortage is 2400$ you cant afford it. These (conservative) mortgage lenders were all about making money (which is what repubs are about.) and took advantage of people. And now the government is going to bail their stupidity out. More to blame than just the democrats. Look at the big picture. Ignorance is forever if you keep a closed mind.

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I work for a living.Nobody gives me nothing.

I am so tired of mis-guided people in this world.How the hell does that MORON Osamaeven have 47 percent ..that alone ,is a scary thought. It tells me that 47 percent of Americans have bought into his B/S and are totally LOST when it comes to politics.No one should allow themselves to be that easily mis-guided.
I am so tired of HANDOUTS...You just keep voting Democrap and I will continue to Vote on ethics,hard work and the belief that those who are mis-guided can still be saved.

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Why would any person Vote for obama you need to see this link.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411

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Go figure.

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You speak of all these misguided people, but then you say things like democrap and osama illustrating that you are what most people would refer to as ignorant in its rawest form. Hard to anyone to take you seriously when you don't even have the professional ability to speak with intellect or intelligence.

Maybe 47% buy into his health care plan, equal pay plan, plan to keep jobs in America, pull out of Iraq, maintain rights for sportsmen, tax breaks for 95% of the working class...maybe