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Due to the lawsuits in Illinois and Minnesota against Scent Lok for "diversity fraud", some people have questioned whether the activated carbon in Scent Lok claimed or impled that their clothingeliminates or reduces 100% of your odor 100% of the time -which is one of the reasons why the lawsuits were started.

T.R.Michels recently posted this"part" of a Scent Lokmagazine advertisement on his website.

What do you think of this claim?

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Ok I'll add my 2 cents.

Its like any advertisment. You have to use some common sense. How can you test or prove them right or wrong. And if you don't get thier results how can you prove you used it exactly the way you should have. 100% is a big number and it may have left them open to lawsuit.

My point is there is hundreds of miricle weight loss addverts that claim to have made people loose weight when nothing else could. If you read the fine print on these they say "when combined with diet and exercise" Well let me tell you if you just diet and exercise you'll loose weight.

If it seems like a miricle "too good to be true product" just figure its not all they say it is.

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Their product has been independantly tested under lab conditions with dogs attempting to find hidden volunteers wearing the suit, it failed every single test since the dogs found them each time. Does anyone here doubt that a deer can smell as well as a dog? So much for their claim. The carbon they use is also bonded to the fabric, so half of it is already useless since it can't adsorb through glue,and what little is left clogs quickly, as anyone who works with AC can verify. If carbon lasted for years then Brita pitchers wouldn't need a new cartridge every 2-3 months, and water has far less to give up than any human. Frankly I hope the FTC drags them to court and puts them out of business for defrauding the public.

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I'm almost worn out with all this scent lok/blocker/etc. talk. I' don't use it, don't plan on it, but the products themselves have undoubtedly given many hunters an extreme amount of confidence.

Kind of makes me wonder just how elusive deer are anyway.:D

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Kevin - you hit the nail on the head. They have the same capabilities as a bloodhound!

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Better in some respects, a bloodhound can't analyze six seperate odors at once. I'd stack a buck against a dog anytime.

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scent lok and scent blocker suits are a joke. i really feel sorry for all the hunters who fell for those gimmicks.

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Isn't their pattents almost up anyways? Or was it that they got rejected for a new pattent? Anyone remember?

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I am not a supporter of scent-lok, but not for the reasons hinted here. If you read that excerpt carefully it does NOT claim they block 100% of scent 100% of the time. It simply claims carbon activated cloth does. This is pretty much fact, carbon activated clothing does do this, they carefully worded it to not say scent lock clothing blocks 100% of your scent 100% of the time. It can't, it doesn't cover 100% of your body.

the biggest hit against it that I have is that it cannot possibly be chemically reactivated in a dryer, they can't get the temperature hot enough to get the carbon to release the trapped scent. Doing so would turn the clothing to ash.

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It takes 800 degrees F to "activate" charcoal to the scent absorbtion state....

Can likely doubt your clothes dryer reaches 800 degrees F, and if it did the garment would melt/burn beforethe charcoalwas able to"reactivate". Common sense dictates much.....

Scent Loc suits might indeed be "activated" when they leave the factory, but as soon as they are exposed to open atmosphere they begin "absorbing scent". Activated charcoal is like a sponge, and can only hold so much before it stops absorbing. The one you buy at Walmart likely absorbed all it's going to absorb before you even get to the field with it.

With no way to realistically reactivate the charcoal, it's a Suckers Game.

Hunt the wind and rock on..............

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I have Scent Lok and got all caught up in the hype a good 4 or 5 years ago. The more I think and the more I read, the more I am calling BS. I've tried so hard to be perfectly scent free with clothing wash, scent lok, etc...

It's a big gray area on their claim that really can't be tested. Who's to say Scent Lok was the reason someone killed a nice deer? You cannot justify it.

I should get in the lawsuit with these guysfor spending my hard earned money on a product with good marketing hype.

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I first off do not use it, But If you read it close it says "It works on sent 100% of the time" Not that it blocks it 100%

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I wear scent-lok and I have no problem with them stating whatever they want to state. It is called marketing and every company does it. I did not buy my scent-lok because I thought it would make me 100% scent free, if anyone would ever think they, then they need to look around and see if they can find some common sence. It like the other poster said, how many products are out there for weight loss, or growing a bigger pecker. Guess what, they don't work by themselfs either. There is no lawsuit here, they marketed their product, if you were a fool to believe 100% of what they said, then that is on you!

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That is proof enough for me that carbon doesnt work.

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MARKETING BS.

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what does it matter?

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Marketing and lying to sell a product are two very different things. When you talk about these weight loss products, you have to remember that they are never approved by the FDA and they always have the little disclaimers like "results are not typical". If they didn't, they would all be sued. You can pretty much label anything as a "dietary supplement" and sell it.
I never saw a disclaimer on any carbon clothing I bought. If it's also true that you need to heat the carbon to 800 degrees, then they decieved customers by telling them that the garments only needed to be placed in a dryer to re-active. As far as I'm concerned, I hope they sue the hell out of all of them. They made all their money by decieving people, so I could care less if they lost every penny in civil suits.

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people have hunted and killed deer many years without it so i figure i dont need it

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I've never fallen into that either. For 1 thing its too expensive. I just use sprays. If I really wanted to fool their nose and if I could stand it,I'd rub cow crap all over myself. They smell that all the time where I hunt. Maybe not from 20 feet in a tree though.

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The activated carbonmost likely doesn't work, but when I sarted using scentlok a few years back I do think It helped me become a better hunter. I washed and then threw the clothing in the dryer. From there they went into a bag and I didnt put them on until I was where I was hunting. Even if the carbon isnt working, the steps to "activate" your suit is actually just getting you more aware of keeping scents off your clothing untill your hunting. Before I bought scentlok clothing Ididntgive scent control as much thought, and thats why so many people believe it works.

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Exactly rackaholic. I think it's hilarious when I see these people buying this stuff up thinking it's gonna score em bigger deer. Yet another reason these big names in huntin piss me off. They're rolling in the money laughing at all these gullible people buying these unnecessary products. They probably don't even use their own products when they're not on camera. If I kill a big deer, it aint because I was using a certain product, it's because I spent time in the woods gaining experience and knowledge about what I'm hunting.

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exactly!

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im calling it LACK of common sense!!! i try to do everything to throw the advantage as far as i can in my favor but im not going to spend money like it grows on trees. i wouldnt place the blame all on scent lok the consumer has to use the God given common sense to justify the money for what the product does so again i call USE YOUR HEAD if it sounds to good to be true then it prolly is.

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So what your saying is that the these people can make whatever claims they want in their advertising/marketing and the responsiblity should still fall back on the consumer? Thats crazy man. It doesn't matter if someone is a millioniare or saved for six months to buy jacket; at the end of the day they were both decieved--Thats not right.

We asconsumers depend on producers to deliver products as advertised. Why should I have to go out and research what temp that carbon needs to be heated up to in order for it to release odors? If the tag says that it releases it in the dryer-thats what it should do--Point Blank. Come to find out it needs to be heated to 800 degrees.

Every other producer from automakers to food companies areheld accountable, carbon clothes makers should be too. It's not right for them to be able to make false claims, and thentell consumers to"Use Your Head".

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Well, the new hype is MOXY scent elimination. This should be the next bestest product for scent elimination and put the carbon suite industry out of business. JIMO, Common Sense, is No Longer Common! :)

Bottom line, in my opinion, what ever works to helpyou become a better hunter (either by combining carbon suites, sprays, uv elimination, utilization of numerouse body scent products, etc) then go for it!

I'm entering my 4th year of hunting, the carbon suite I bought 3 years ago (bought into the hype and my common sense, well it was on vacation [:o]) was the begining of my scent control introduction. Now days, I just wash throughly, eat right, still use spraysand play the wind.

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Thank gosh this is not in the bow forum, I am out of here.:D