Hunting on Sunday's
 

There is a bit of talk about allowing hunting on Sundays in Virginia. Plenty of arguments on both sides. I guess this has been a bit of an issue for some time and has reared its head again. Whats the scoop from those that are in places that allow it? Personally, I'm against it.

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Against it? I cannot believe this is even a serious question, but I know it exists. If you can't hunt an entire weekend, when can you hunt? 1 day a weekend? So you have to take off work on a friday, and now maybe a thursday too so you can hunt 2 days in a row? Many of us don't live on the land we hunt, and don't live a quick 30min drive away from it either, many of use commute 2 or 3 hours after work on a friday to hunt saturday and sunday and drive home sun night. If I can't hunt sunday, now I have to take off work on friday and leave thurs evening? Please explain to me what sense not hunting on sunday makes whatsoever? tradition? please.

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i have never heard of such a thing. here in missouri we hunt on sundays. i didn't know other people didn't

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i would love to hunt on sundays
but in nj you can,t
its saturdays and days off for me

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By banning hunting on Sunday you are telling young working people who have limited vacation that they are not welcome. You are doing the same to youths who are in school and can ONLY hunt on the weekend. I think that hunting is a good wholesome family activity that becomes much more difficult to pursue with a Sunday ban so I think it is anti family too because it limits an activity that helps a family be stronger.

Bob

P.S.- I feel closer to God when I am in the field than when I am in church, that is for sure.

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What is this no hunting on Sundays B.S.
Let me guess, some politicians answer to getting votes fromRelgious communities...
Why you guys let this happen is beyond me..
Personally it would make me turn to Athiesm right then and there...
If this happened in my neck of the woods, everybody would stop going to Church or go to Church and refuse to pay a Tithe until the law changed..
f that didn't change things,we'd do what the Indians do up here and say to hell with the legislative law and hunt anyway..
Really rack the cost of it up so it affects all tax payers not just the ones who hunt...
Make this into a billion dollar issue..
Whats happened to you guys,your ancesterors dumped Tea into the Boston Harbor to prove points , now all ya do is print..

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Interesting to hear from those areas that do. It's never been allowed in Virginia, so its not a new "ban". They are actually trying to lift it.

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Glad we dont have that issue in Wi.

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the ban on Sundays is nothing more than for religious beliefs, there is suppose to be a seperation of church and state but the far right don't want that.
Freedom of chioce ,don't hunt on Sundays if that is what you believe but don't stop others because they want to

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Here's a map that shows all the Sunday hunting states.



I am still going to fight long and hard for Virginia, but, lately, I am so disgusted with the state legislature, I could scream... [:@] We had an absolutely perfect House Bill (1456) that was geared towards allowing only bowhunting on private land only during archery season.

- Bowhunting is virtually silent.
-Church parishoners can't use the "gunfire disruption" complaint.
- It's on private land.
- No hikers, horseback riders, etc... would be bothered on public lands. :eek:
- It's only during archery season and not the full season.

....So what's the problem with this?!?!?!

I'll tell you...

HSUS, Church people, the Farm Bureau, and believe it or not, even the VHDA (deer dog runners) spoke out and had it killed!!! [:@][:@][:@]

You heard me.... Virginia Sunday hunting advocates got stabbed in the back by their own fellow hunters!!!!

Me personally? I am so frustrated and disgusted with everything, I am ready to quit. In fact, I might just sit out next season and not even buy a hunting license, out of protest. If Virginia continues to refuseSunday hunting, then I just won't hunt here. I'll go to another state and hunt.

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I couldn't imagine not being able to hunt on Sunday. Like what was already stated, the weekends is often times the "only" time some individuals are able to go hunting.

It should be the choice of the individual on whether they want to carry the ritual/tradition of not hunting on Sunday. If you're a Church goer, then I don't think the law is going to effect you anyways, as you're going to continue to go to Church on Sundays. I just don't see the logic behind the law, and am suprised it actual is a law considering there should be a seperation between church & state.

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A few years back they passed the Sunday hunting law in Wv but then put a rider to let each county vote it out if they wanted to. And guess waht most counties voted it OUT. The reasons were for most Church and some people saying that was the only day they could enjoy the outdoors and were afraid of being shot. All of these reasons are stupid in my opinion. I have been hunting for over 50 years and I could count on one hand how many people I have saw walking in the woods in October,November or December besides hunters scouting.
And now in Wv they are worring that hunting liscence sales are down and what to do about it. So in their reasoning lets raise the price and charge more for extras tags. But lets increase the number of damage claims to the farmers who will not let hunters onto their land to help keep the herds under control. It stinks we as hunters can attend all the hearings and contact all the delegates we want but it does no good at all.

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Michigan had a few counties that had no sunday hunting. They were all repealed in 2003. Most of these laws dated back to to 20's.

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No issue with it here in MS.. So I can't imagine why it is banned in other states..

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It's not banned here in Georgia, and we are smack in the middle of the Bible belt! Personally, I don't think it matters what day of the week you hunt. It's a personal conviction as to what you feel God leading you to do. You can glorify God while hunting just as much as you can glorify God while NOT hunting. As long as you give God the glory due to HIM, I say hunt when you want.

Obey the current laws, but do what you can to get current laws changed if they don't make sense.

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X2...unbelievable that almost all the couties have voted it out. as others have said it's unreal that unless we take vacation days we can't hunt 2 days in a row.

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I think it is BS!!! We (well I do because I live in IOWA:D!!!)should have the right to hunt on Sundays!!!

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I think you might want to research a little on the far right because the other end of spectrume wants to take your gun and a lot of other rites away from you as well. I'm not saying they are bad people,I just want to keep my freedom to choose.

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Pretty interesting. I've never been able to hunt Sunday, so doing without is not that big of a deal. If the reason they banned it is religion, so be it. The religious right being against it doesnt seem to work though, that would mean the left is for it?I was surprised at the map though. I dont know how much of it has to do with population density, but interesting. Growing up theidea was that you let the woods kinda quiet down. We didnt even shoot guns on Sunday. Iguess Im still not convinced on the argument though.Some act like they should'nt have to usevacation time to hunt. What the hell? You use leave to go to the doctor, why do you feel entitled to days off to hunt? If it wasn't forSundays, some of these yahoos would never get the hellout of the woods, especially the friggin dog runners. There is enough problems with guys shooting dozens of deer a year, spotlighting, trespassing, poaching,dumping deer along the road. If its a management tool, just lengthen the season by a week or so.

Besides,Sunday is forprocessing& wrapping.....if you hunt 7 days aweek, when would the work get done???

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I you can fish on Sunday , you can hunt on Sunday...

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What is so funny about this situation...Most of the guys that want to hunt on Sunday don't have the long season and generous bag limits we have here in NC...We can hunt from mid-September until the end of the year and this year we got unlimited doe tags...FREE...

If you want to hunt on Sunday, don't move to NC....I'm staying put....

To those of you complaining....How much of your hunting season do you want to loose...Do you want a 3 week season so you can hunt on Sunday, or four???

I have plenty to do on a Sunday, without having to go hunting...

Last year I killed 9 deer, and spent a solid month just big buck hunting....The freezer is full...We are blessed to live in such a game laden state....

Quit complaining and get ready for turkey season...:D

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I think you bring up a good point about the does. There are slews of people who wont shoot them. Lots of old timers wont and will guys who are ego challenged. Guys will take spikes all day long, and pass on the does that are twice the size. Instead of Sunday, why not hunt does all season? Thats the best way to manage them in my opinion. The rule where I hunt (private land) is if youcanthang it on the wall, let him go.And who ever shoots the first wall hanger, sets thebar for the next one and so on.Only old bucks and does in our circle. 2 monsters and 11 does. Not bad for the 6 of us..

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Ah... good ol Blue Laws... No buying beer on Sunday either. I grew up in PA, where this was the norm... Now in IL I can hunt and buy beer on my way home to watch the game.:)

Funny how they let the malls and stores be open for business though...

from Wiki

A blue law, in the United States and Canada, is a type of law designed to enforce moral standards, particularly the observance of Sunday as a day of worship or rest. Most have been repealed, declared unconstitutional or are simply unenforced, although prohibitions on the sale of alcoholic beverages, and occasionally almost all commerce, on Sundays are still enforced in many areas. This puzzles many non-Americans, given the supposed separation of church and state.[1] Blue laws often prohibit an activity only during certain hours and there are usually exceptions to the prohibition of commerce, like grocery and drug stores. In some places blue laws may be enforced due to religious principles, but others are retained as a matter of tradition or out of convenience.[2]

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Some people just don't get the big picture at all don't even try to tell me it is religon here in WV you can fish get drunk gamble go to the mall just about anything you want but HUNT. Now if our season started the first of Sept like some others do it may make a small difference but it doesnt it starts the second Saturday of Oct . Now I know some of you will think that is still enough time but lets take into account the poor slob who has to work 5 and sometimes 6 days a week to make a living and yes it happens all the time. Does he not deserve the time to be in the woods in pursuit of game also. Maybe he cannot afford to take a vacation day to hunt and maybe his company will not allow him to take a day when he wants. Now lets just say he has all the Saturdays off work to bow hunt he gets 5 saturdays before gun season comes in and if he is lucky 2 saturdays after all the gun seasons close hoping maybe a few bucks didnt go down with guns. No matter how you look at it that isnt right. I don't know of anyone who ever said gosh what do I do Church or hunting what should I do. it has nothing to do with church in my opinion.

With me it doesnt matter anymore I am retired and can hunt when I please But for the common worker in Wv it costs to much to try to miss work to hunt.

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Sunday hunting bans are a great deal for a retired person. The laws take competition for game away.

That is great except if your favorite hunting pard, your grandson, because of a lack of senority, has to work EVERY Saturday. For working stiffs, scheduled overtime is often on Saturday too.

My son missed opening day of first deason shotgun deer, here in Iowa, three years in a row because he was required to work Saturdays. He could not even get the day by scheduling a full week of vacation because there was another hunter at his work with more senority who already had the week blocked out. It sucked for the other employee too for he had to schedule a full week of vacation off just to hunt on the ONE Saturday.

My son would not have hunted with us those three years at all were Sunday hunting banned in Iowa.

I think that people who are in favor of retaining Sunday hunting bans are either PETA tree hungging antihunters, misguided "religious", purely selfish, or a combination of these.

By the way- My son no longer works for Fareway grocery.


Bob

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Ya know freedom of choice is important, but ya don't have to worry about guns going away, they will only go if ya let them......
They're not gonna get your guns if ya fight...
I live in Canada, the Liberals introduced the firearms control on a gun owners at an estimated cost of 1 million dollars.
At 1 million dollars,everone seemed A -Ok with with the exception of the gun owners.
That one million dollarrs turned out to be a 3 billion dollar Liberal fiasco..
At 3 billion dollars everytax payer is pissed and now non hunters and non gun owners are saying stop..
Alot of us firearm owners said fine, you want firearms I'll registor everything that satrs and ends with the word gun,nail guns caulkng guns, glue guns, and hockey sticks ( cause when we werte kids, I pretended they where guns)
There is 2 alternatives the Gov has left one is to get rid of it, (they will) the other is to confiscate them ..
Honestly, if that happened who's gonna do it, the police,the CO's the military,there will be 7 million very very upset registered gun owners (probably (7 miillion non registered)and 99% will be trigger happy....

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i think its a complete joke to ban hunting on sundays and once again is a slap in the face of working class men andwomanwho only get two days a week to do what they love once again our gov. waste its time and our money to pass these useless laws theres better waysto manage we always wanna ban stuff instead of teaching people to be ethical first its no hunting on sundays then whats next thank god im from Wisconsin

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vabyrd,
Unfortunately, my wife and kids do not hunt. My daughter did hunt with me at one time but not anymore. If I used up most of my vacation time to go do something on my own instead of including my family i probably wouldnt have a family to come home to.
So yes, i am acting like it would be nice that i can go on vacation with my family and add hunting days by having Sunday available to me since my wife works on Sundays. Gun/buck season here in WV starts on a Monday, has 1 weekend then ends on the next Saturday

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Having grown up in Virginia, I see this as a hold over from "a time long, long ago". Growing up in the 60s, I remember grocery stores couldn't open before noon on Sundays. The pharmacy could open prior to noon, as could the occasional gas station, but in general, almost all commerce was shut down before noon on Sundays. Then, they started repealing the blue laws (I think it started with the 7/11 stores coming to town! ;)). Grocery stores could open Sunday morning (or even stay open all night Saturday night) but they couldn't sell alcohol between midnight Saturday and, I think, 8 AM Monday. Then they changed to where they could sell beer after 12:00 noon on Sunday. Some voluntarily delayed alcohol sales until 1 PM on Sundays. This trend grew in the 70s to treat Sunday like any other day of commerce. I don't think they started selling beer before noon until some time in the 90s though, and I think the ABC / liquor stores being open on Sundays is something that happened only in the last 10 years or so.

See, the deal of not hunting on Sundays is as much "tradition" as is many other things in this state that needto go away or were eventually ended- such as like having the school holidays in the Fall scheduled around tobacco harvest. When this "tradition" was established, the hunting season was only a couple of weeks long, and no one outside of doctors, policemen, firefighters and a few othersworked on Saturdays. We did away with the harvest holidays and should probably do away with the Sunday hunting ban -- maybe just in baby steps at first, such as was tried with the bill that was just defeated which tried to legalize Sunday hunting only during bow season and only on private land. If "tradition" is going to rule the decisions in the General Assembly, then I say they should go back to wearing powdered wigs when in session.



BTW - I usually take 4 or 5 vacation days a year to hunt, but I'm fortunate enough to have enough time built up that this doesn't interfere with family vacations.

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I'm from Virginia too, and being 18 and in the local community college, I can hunt atleast 3 days a week (Tues. Thurs., and Sat.) if i don't have too much school work to get done. So I'm not really sure where I stand on the issue. Personally, I would have to say I am against it, just cause most of our neighboring property owners blast away at every thing and that would just give them another day to shoot another yearling (One family took 20 deer and dont hunt much more than 50 acres!). But that is just me and that's a pretty selfish standpoint. To you folks who work and have families to think of, i support your decision to hunt on Sunday cause you don't have much other time to do so. So looking ahead to the future, I would have to say that I am in favor of Sunday hunting.

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You have some great points there and you are on the money with a gun ban here for the time being and any time soon. But what about ammo tax's? I've heard some wild ideas about hugh tax increase on ammo and limiting stores on amounts and types of ammo they can handle and sell.
This is something that could really happen I fear and Hillary Clinton would'nt bat an eye on signing a bill for it. She also wants to impose national health care on us if she becomes Pres. And you being a Canadian and a fellow hunter I would like to here how you feel about your health care plan up there in Canada. I know Im' getting of topic of Sun. hunting which is cool with me but these other issuse are importat to me as well.

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same problem in nova scotia,canada,no sunday hunting.it's supposedly being reviewed,hopefully we can get with the times.

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Maybe this would be the perfect year to get it pushed through then? The politicians are looking for votes, this might be the best timeto actually give them a carrot for a chance. Im sure if it ever went through, it would'nt be "carte blanche". I imagine they'd throw some pork along with it. I can see both sides, I think.It does suck for those who work and can't get off the time, been there, done that. And those who save their vacation for the entire family, not just themselves. Iwould imagine that it would'nt be allowed in certain areas due to population density and such. The only problem would be some of the rural areas that are intermixedwith development.I would hope that people would respect such areason Sunday's. Im suremost would, butwe all know there are those jacka$$es that think they ownthe woods and dont have any respect, whether or not its Sunday. There was an article in our local paper about trying archery first, then maybeblack powder and so on. Allowing the archery & crossbows would'nt be a bad deal either. That would make both sides a little ticked, so itwould probably be fair.Maybe a good start anyway. Or allowing it after 12:00.If it came to a vote (which I believe it has before) I'd have to support it.And those that dont, just stay in bed onSunday......

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Virginia

In Richmond, it is illegal to flip a coin in any eating establishment to determine who buys a cup of coffee.
In Norfolk, a man may face 60 days in jail for patting a woman's derriere.
There is a state law prohibiting ``corrupt practices of bribery by any person other than candidates.''
In Lebanon, it is illegal to kick your wife out of bed.
http://www.interl.net/~overlyjd/Goofy_Laws.html it would stink not to be able to hunt on sunday.
West Virginia

In Nicholas County, no clergy members may tell jokes or humorous stories from the pulpit during church services.
Doctors and dentists may not place a woman under anesthesia unless a third person is present.
It is illegal to snooze on a train.State-by State List of Loony Laws

Alabama

It is illegal to play Dominos on Sunday.
It is illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church.
Putting salt on a railroad track may be punishable by death.

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You have some great points there and you are on the money with a gun ban here for the time being and any time soon. But what about ammo tax's? I've heard some wild ideas about hugh tax increase on ammo and limiting stores on amounts and types of ammo they can handle and sell.
This is something that could really happen I fear and Hillary Clinton would'nt bat an eye on signing a bill for it. She also wants to impose national health care on us if she becomes Pres. And you being a Canadian and a fellow hunter I would like to here how you feel about your health care plan up there in Canada. I know Im' getting of topic of Sun. hunting which is cool with me but these other issuse are importat to me as well.

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Honestly I don't know what to do about the Clinton position
if she becomes Pres...
Number one don't vote for her, but Bush really ranyour country into the ground..
I mean our dollar rose 16 cents in just over 2 years,..
Thats really messed up dude....I have always liked McCain,
but I don't think a Republican will make Pres this time around.
Hopefull a really good Independant will run, someone who is a gun lovin gun toting enthusiest, and knows his business, has clout, and doesn't have to suck up to Corperations.
Loves money, knows how to make money, and hates losing money and wisely spends it...
As far as the possibility of increased ammo hikes, find a loop hole..(There always is one if you look hard enough)
Maybe kids under certain ages and seniors, are excempt from paying taxes, get them to purchase them for ya..
National Health care isn't a bad thing (unless you never need to go).Its not free,but subsidised and its coverage amounts depend on a persons age, wheather or not he or she is a student, martial status, kids .
For $110 bucks a month my familly of six is covered24/7/365.
If ya live below poverty, your covered 24/7/365 for free, which I can live with if your working but having a hard time making ends meet..
Its convient, and weight is off your shoulders knowing that if something was to happen to you your wife your kids ya still have a roof over your head..
Ya just have to worry aboout one thing,the most important at the time, the well being of your familly member..
Its nice to watch my kids being born and not getting a 1000 bill handed over to me after..
When mywife hadsurgery, and they kepther in2 extra days cause the doctor knew with3 young kids at home plus a newborn,she wouldn't get any rest there and her incision wouldn't heal..
I know that wouldn't be happening if I had to pay..
The problems I have with it,
And the biggest problem I have with it, because these people consistanly take up bed space operating tables,and I feel its not deserved...
You live below poverty overdose on heroin (drugs)and your covered 24/7/365..
You are above Poverty line, overdose on heroin (drugs)your covered 24/7/365....
Ya drink and drive, crash your car, kill the passenger, kill everyone else in the other car, and your in need of a spleen and a kidney, your covered....
But all in all, very very few of the percentage fall in
NOT DESRVING CATEGORY, :Dits not the best system,
but its comforting knowing that my family is medically secured...
And I'm glad to have it..

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i'm not against hunting on sunday's...as long as it doesn't keep you from church. i think if you want to hunt from 5:30 or 6 til 9 or so you can...just leave enough time where you can get out, get a shower, and get to church, if you go to church. you can always go in the afternoons after church. i've hunted on sunday's before, but always have gotten out so i could go to church. i know it's hard for some people to get days off and to do stuff they want to do, but God doesn't take a vacation from you, so why should you take a vacation or day off from Him?

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If a state bans Sunday hunting shouldn't they ban Sunday fishing?
Bike riding?
Football games?
Baseball?
Shouldn't the ski mountains be closed?
Why can i go waterskiing on the lake on Sundays?
You'll probably find one of my daughters at the mall on Sunday afternoon.

I really would like to know how many people who vote to ban Sundayhunting take part in one of these activities on a Sunday

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jcsfootball---I don't want to sound rude but hunting on Sundays and your relationship with god is you own issue....people should not push their religous beliefs on others. I guess when humans actually had to hunt/kill animals to survive...as of 100 years ago, that they didn't hunt on Sundays because it was "gods" day? I guess if there were 5 starving people looking over a valley with 30 buffalo on a Sunday back then, I guess they would just say, "its god's day we can't hunt and I guess we will starve to death even though this may be our only chance at food in the next week".

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We used not be able to hunt in Ohio up until a few years ago. I personally don't because I usually hunt on my Dad's land & he is against it ..... not sure why though! *L* Fortunately I get friday, saturday & sunday off so I got at least 2 days a week to hunt if I so choose.

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i wasn't forcing what i believe on others..i was just expressing my opinion..if you want to hunt on sunday's thats your thing, but im just saying i will hunt on sunday's only if i make time to go to church..sorry if i sounded rude or pushy with what i said, but i was just expressing my opinion