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Alsatian 01-09-2008 07:38 PM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
Yes, the .223 is too small for deer. There is no ethical range for shooting deer with the .223. The .223 is too small for deer. You asked; I'm tellin' you.

SouthDakotaHunter 01-09-2008 07:40 PM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
To small....

JagMagMan 01-09-2008 07:50 PM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
Yes a .223 will kill a deer. It happens to be legal to use one on deer here in Texas.Is it a good choice for deer? NO! There are probably 20 cartridges, with not much more recoil than the .22's that are better choices for deer hunting!
If its legal where you hunt and you are good enough with it, then thats your business! But, even if its your cartridge of choice, you shouldn't be recomending it to others!

bigtim6656 01-09-2008 08:00 PM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 

zrexpilot 01-10-2008 12:11 AM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
would you rather be shot with a 45acp or a .223.
Just anwser the question.

bigtim6656 01-10-2008 07:08 AM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
neither

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

would you rather be shot with a 45acp or a .223.
Just anwser the question.

eelriver 01-10-2008 07:22 AM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 

ORIGINAL: Splitear_Leland

I shot a deer with a spitwad once. I hit him perfectly, right behind the shoulder. He only made it 2-3 years, killed him deader than a hammer. I was shooting a 39 grain wad with approximatly 80 grains of spit, out of a 10" McDonald's straw. Since then I have killed many deer with that straw.
I've also used the 10" McDonald's straw but have had much better performance out of an Arby's shake straw which is approx. 11.5" Give it a try Leland I think you'll be happier.;)

Michigander88 01-10-2008 07:38 AM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
Are you structurally to small to shoot a larger caliber??

MI88

Rebel Hog 01-10-2008 08:01 AM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 
It's illegal to hunt with in FL, minimum .243.

ipscshooter 01-10-2008 08:22 AM

RE: Is a 223 to small for deer?
 

ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog

It's illegal to hunt with in FL, minimum .243.
.223 is legal in Texas, as is ANY centerfire rifle. .204, .17 Rem., .25-20, .30 Carbine... Lots of cartridges that are less appropriate than a .223. But, that's all irrelevant, since the guy asking the question is from Louisiana. What is legal in Louisiana?


ORIGINAL: Alsation

Yes, the .223 is too small for deer. There is no ethical range for shooting deer with the .223. The .223 is too small for deer. You asked; I'm tellin' you.
I agree that it is smaller than what I would use (I use a .243 Win., and there are fruit-loops out there who say it is too small as well), but, if state law says it's legal, then that state's Parks & Wildlife Service has made the decision on ethics. .223 is legal here in Texas. I subscribe to Texas Trophy Hunters Magazine, and EVERY month they publish photos of deer killed with various .22 caliber rifles. Of course, our deer are not nearly as heavy as the deer from some other states, and in those states, the Parks & Wildlife Service has probably set a higher "minimum".

The "ethics" question does NOT apply to legal caliber/cartridge. Rather, it applies to things like choice of properly constructed bullet and limitations to range and shot selection that are within the caliber/cartridge's performance limitations.

Note: There's a guy over in the Guns forum who has posted about numerous one shot deer kills with a .22 Hornet. It's all about bullet selection and shot placement... I'd say a guy who chooses his shots, hits accurately, and makes clean one shot kills with a .223 is a helluva lot MORE ETHICAL than some clown who goes out and buys the latest whiz-bang super magnum deer slayer cartridge, but can't hit the broad side of a barn with it and ends up gut shooting deer due to the severe flinch he developed because of the rifle's noise and recoil...


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