Pretty crappy affair
 

Talked to a friend that’s tried to fill a tag all season and hasn’t. He hunts a piece of ground in a distant county. Good place, but it has a problem, the neighbor. Guys a real prick for some reason.

Today he told me a story almost too crappy to believe. As he sat there waiting for his chance he noticed a helicopter circling a distant woods. Said it just keep going round and round and then it moved over to where he was and started the same thing. Next thing he see’s the GW coming right at him. Guy starts giving him the business and after he gives him all the things requires he asks if there are anymore. “Yes, my sons over there”. Guy goes over and gives him the business. This is all on private land.


The GW and 2 other GW’s start checking the area where they parked and the buildings on the site.

By this time I’m steaming at thinking how this friend is being shafted. You know the investment in hunting, the cost, the time, the early hours, everything ruined at this point by now. They couldn’t find a hair out of place.

I asked what they were going to do about it. His reply was “nothing, were hoping that the GW’s will hold it against the guy and leave us alone and maybe give the neighbor some trouble. My advice was to do what ever it took to see that if these GW’s broke any laws that they were held accountable for it, they then would be sure to give that neighbor what he had coming to him. Can’t say what they’ll do. The constitution applies to the dnr too.

This season was our 4 day muzzle loader season. That was his last chance this year.

They could have just met them at their vehicles. Even then I think without the land owners consent and no cause they were way over the legal law line.

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crappy indeed..... where I hunt I've never seen a GW...... but I go waaay back in, they might never come back that far.

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Sounds like the neighbor needs some buckshot up his arse!

people like that just bug the CRAP out of me!

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Unfortionatly a GW or a CO can trespass If they have reason to beleive a crime is being comitted. This friend of yours needs to file a complaint. If the neighbor gave the GW false info, (which he did) then he can get in serious trouble.

P.S.- After that, I'd go kick his @ss!!!!!!!!!!

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The land I hunt on is posted and the Game Warden cannot come on to the place without written permission, if he does it is a fine for him. The land owner has tried to trick them into crossing the line and they will not. Maybe you guys need to get some laws rewritten.

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LMAO!!! I don't believe a word of this post.

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Texas game wardens have jurisdiction almost everywhere. They have more power than any state employed peace officer and caninflict some of the nastiest penalties/fines. Unfortunate as it is,if they have reason to suspectyouhave done something wrong, they can walk into your place of residence without a warrant.You would think that itsillegal as hell but thats the way it is. The game warden is somebody you DONT want to mess with.

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Yes, game wardens do not have to have any kind of permission to come onto property. They would probably have to have a warrant to search a building, though.

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A game Warden can enter private property in Kansas with Probable cause. Dependant upon where your at and the Game Warden.... I know a bunch of the guys and I really can't see them tromping around someones property for no reason. Judging from the log book, I'd say there somewhat busy anyways...
http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/other_services/law_enforcement/officer_s_logbook

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I've read some things lately that gives some truth to this. Hunting in closed areas is one, the game are not public property.

One thing I did read was that "posted" land gives them the right to enter. It didn't say that non posted land is different right out, but it did indicate that posting is what gives them the freedom to do it.The indication that there must be a cause is almost always implied.

Kind of hate to waste anymore time on this post, it’s already been started twice before in the past 2 days and most of it lost.

Freedom is #1 in my book and the only time I hear it talked about is in the context of voting more of it away, it's what has led to things like this. People better wake up and in the short term get your legal ducks in order so that when it happens to you, you'll know your rights under the constitution. It has now been forced upon me to include it in my off season things to do.

Sobriety check points have been deemed legal because the threat to the safety of thepeople out ways personal freedom. Think about theimplications of this recent decision. This what the GW uses to enter property. The argument is that they need to make sure the public’s property on private property is safe. You'd think they could still accomplish this without the intrusion, and they can. They can work at night for one.

The attitude shared by most these days is "their just doing it for our own good". It's just a stone to the next step. For your own good and the future of this nationnothing could be farther from the truth. The freedom to be left alone to live out your days in peace is for our own good. It's what this nation was founded on. In no way am I advocating lawlessness either. The law abiding should be left alone to pursue legal activities free from being treated like they have broken a law.

Another thing I read was that they cannot move something to find evidence. If you give your permission to look they can, but if you refuse they must get an order to do so. There's more to it like be prepare to be held a while, but it would be worth it for me. The big picture demands it.

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They go on private property in Wis. and Ill.

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I'm curious. No orange and he kind of blends in. What's up with that?

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Is the county court house the only place I can find the laws that cover everything the wildlife officers can and can not do? The hunters safety course didn't cover much of anything as far as the law, and the booklet they pass out is about grey enough to get me lots of tickets.
Thanks

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You got to talk to the right people. Get them involved and the government will listen. Talking directly to them will yield little unless it can be used in a campaign.

The media.[8D]

Contacted some yesterday after reading an article where the dnr complained about the disappointing ml season harvest results and blamed the weather.

Here's how I started after starting in some hunting forums which I'm sorry to say hasn't been too positive. I know how life is, times and places are irrelevant. People are people. History is full of examples. The life of the great Scotsman William Wallace just to name one is a perfect example of the process.

I'ma hunter. I'm patience.



http://www.google.com/search?q=can+a+game+warden+enter+private+property+ without+cause+ohio&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS2 40US240&start=10&sa=N

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Have a friend in local law enforcement. He stopped by to pick up his kid and we talked about hunting. One thing led to another and I told hin the story. His mouth hung open and before I could finish he said, "they ruined the guys hunt". The next thing was, "they have to have a reason, just can't do that without it". He has been in law enforcment for over a decade if not 2.

I remember why it came up. He asked ifI knew anywhere he could gun hunt. He's not a very good hunter but I think I'll bring him along more often.