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Question about other hunters....
I was wondering if any of you guys that have killed a nice buck this year or in the recent past have noticed this. I was hauling the buck I killed on Thanksgiving Day home. It was my best gun kill to date..was a 9 point that will gross around 130. Really nice for northern WV but what Im typing this about is the fact that I swear I have never gotten so many dirty looks in my life from other hunters. It hasnt changed any since I got home......I cant believe this....since when has deer hunting turned into nothing but a big contest? I think a lot of people out there need to sit down and examine exactly why it is that they are in the woods. Isnt it supposed to be fun? Arent we all in this together? Maybe Im too old fashioned. It looks like the Jackie Bushman mentality has taken over the sport.
What is up with that? Hell if somebody kills a nice one I am always happy for them. Always congratulate them or shake their hand..... There were4 or 5 people who acted like that this time....the vast majority were like little kids who had their candy stolen. I can see the reason I have hunted alone for so long. Have you guys had similar experiences? |
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jealous people suck
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Yep. people who hunt antlers, are jealous of bigger antlers, people who hunt meat are jealous of bigger bodies, like you say, they fell you took that chance from them. The few people who really congratualed you are the generally good people, and or real friends, the people who didn't are the average person who is typically pretty self involved. Its just human nature, I suppose we've all acted both ways at times. Congrats on your best deer, and don't worry about what others think, for the most part, they don't worry about what you think. So enjoy your deer and the good folks, ignore the others.
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Heck their thinking of making it Law that Bucks here have to have 4 points on one side.
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My son outdoes me every year! I wouldnt want to take that away from him. 2 of my friends are genuinely happy for him. My son doesnt like to brag, so I do it for him! When someone is turning green with jealousy, I rub it in DEEP!
Congrads on your buck! Its what you worked for, dont let anyone dampen your spirits, They are loosers and nothing will change that, so have fun with it!!! |
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if you dont get the thrill and respectthe animal,your there justto prove your self, you shouln't be hunthing.
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Thats a really unfortuneate story, fellow hunters should be congratulating you not giving you bad looks. Just goes to show that not everyone is as considerate as many hunters are.
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I must be lucky, I never get that here. Even if you shoot a spike most people will give you a pat on the back and tell you it is a nice deer. They might be thinking something else, but not many say it.
We don't have to check in deer here either. If you are not going to get it processed somewhere you can just take it home and cut it up. Paul |
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Deer hunters are an odd lot.:eek:
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I see this in every facet of life, not just hunting. In my short 34 years on this planet I’ve watched our culture fall farther and farther into the depths of what can only be described as narcissism.
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Ive seen it. I feel sorry for those that let jealousy control them.
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I am proud of the fact that our group of guys (sons included) have a "we" mentality...as in we tageed three deer this season. We are all proud and happy when one of us is scuuessful and it has always been that way.
That being said we have had other close friend who are also hunters make nitwit comments about how lucky we are or other jealous remarks. We take it with a rrain of salt. Consider the source. Be proud of what you have done. You done good! Congrats! |
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Yeah, there are a few people around here that would not only give you a dirty look, but ask you EXACTLY where you got it to make sure you weren't on THEIR land. I hunt my own land with just me and my kids. I remember the days of hunting with my family back in PA (and when I say family, I mean Dad, uncles, cousins....the whole lot). It didn't matter who shot the deer. We were just happy that someone got something and that we were all sharing in the venison.
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I have only been hunting for a year now, 1 month last season and all this season, but I can see where this "mine is bigger then yours", "that should have been my kill" mentality comes from. Alot of people look at hunting as a sport. It is not about the hunt so much as the kill for these people.....notice I am calling them people and not hunters. Even with my lack of time hunting, I have killed 5 deer in my short time,one wall mounted 7, three does(one piebald),and a fork. My buddy had his dad drive up from Georgia to hunt opening shotgun with us, and a young kid who doesn't get out much tagged along also.....I was more then willing to give up my stand for them to hunt it. I would have got more joy out of them harvesting a deer out of my stand then me doing it myself. Some people just have that competitive drive and turns this wonderful thing called hunting into a sport. Jelousy is a bad color on any hunter!
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Remember when it was a harvest, instead of a contest? Good times.
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Those Hunters need to learn to relex when it come right down to it! Jelousy, isn't good or justified in this sport!
No matter how big or how many points that deer has, there is always another out there that is bigger or will score higher! Just be proud that a fellow hunter has scored a nice one! And remember the bigger one is still out there! Just my 2 cents! I love sharing in the excitement when someone shoots a good one! Thats jsut as much fun for me as getting it myself! |
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I remember when most folks were happy to just get out hunting with a decent chance of getting any type of deer. Now you have all sorts of people that think that buying a permit entitles them to a trophy buck and the whole damn world needs to stay out of their way. I've said it before and I'll say it again, i would be perfectly happy if the deer population got reduced to a fraction of its current level, which would help to end some of this nonsense.
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Congratulations on your nice buck. I am mostly a loner when it comes to hunting deer. I hunt alone. I draw my satisfactions alone. I prefer to have as little contact with others as possible when hunting. I have sometimes experienced odd responses from others about my deer, but I just sort of overlook or ignore. These weren't necessarily jealous reactions or comments, as was so in your case. I suggest you just ignore these other hunters's reactions and enjoy your own satisfaction. I took a small, probably young buck this year and a guy at the check-in station made a summary comment "that is just about a perfect 'management' buck." First, I don't really understand what that term means, but I'm guessing it has to do with culling out undesireable members of the gene pool to better foster preferred members of the gene pool -- which I assume means more desirably shaped antlers. Well, I don't hunt for antlers, and I don't give a care about the size or shape of antlers on animals I take. I was happy to take this younger buck because I'm guessing he will be better eating -- the motivation I have to hunt, in addition to the pure pleasure of the hunt -- than would be an older, more mature, larger racked buck. The whole language of "management" with regards to hunting strikes me as inappropriate and even perverted. I don't manage a deer herd, I wade out into an otherwise natural context and hunt in the environment such as it is. I don't want to be a deer rancher, a deer habitat manager, or any of that irrelevant crap. So . . . I just took his comments askew and ignored them rather than responding or replying back.
I consider myself a meat hunter. I don't need the meat to survive or to reduce my cost of living. Truth be told, my venison is a lot more expensive per pound than any meat I can buy in the store, including veal, fillet mignon, swordfish, or what have you (I pay $250 for my non-resident combination license, I drive a Suburban about 700 miles before the deal is done [$120 gas?], I go out to the shooting range a couple of times sighting in [$30 total], gift to my hunting host ($50), consider time away from work -- all for maybe 40 LBS of deboned venison meat). But I think the direction of my hunt is to take an animal -- doe or buck is equally acceptable, or even more preference for a doe which may be more tender than a buck -- which I will skin myself, quarter myself, butcher into meal sized packages myself, and cook myself. I do NOT envy other hunters who take larger bodied animals, in reference to an earlier comment on this thread. My buck was 90 LBS field dressed, kind of on the small side of bucks in my Oklahoma hunting ground. I look at that size and think, well, maybe this is a younger, less mature buck and the meat will be more toothsome than a bigger buck would be. Anyway, just ignore those jealous hunters. |
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Don't expect too much from hunters or you will no doubt be very disappointed. Sorry that I have to say this since I am also a hunter, but this has been my experience with hunting and hunters. There are bad apples in every segment of life as others pointed out, but I have to say that in hunting the percentage is a good deal higher. I think it's best to hunt with a relative, or a friend or two, but in general it's best to just go about your own business and not get involved with too many other hunters, because it typically never ends nicely. At least that has been my experience. Just too much greed and jealosy for my taste.
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I got a really nice buck this year and everyone is just excited for me and wants to see it. Some people are just jealous and think they should get something like that and you dont deserve it.
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Lanse, Alsatian, those were two of the most EXCELLENT posts that I have ever seen on any hunting forum!! I completely agree with you both. Unfortunately people in this country are very gullible and just follow along with what others do. I don't see hunting changing for the better anytime soon. Greed seems to drive the world and it has now infected a pastime like hunting.
Alsatian, I love your story on your deer being considered a "management" buck. I have heard some kids on these boards who probably have a deer or two under their belts talking about how they took a "management" deer this time out. Please, give me a break! They should spend some time hunting in areas where many others have no other choice but to hunt. Maybe then they would learn what hunting really should be all about. |
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jealousy sucks! im just glad to see people have the enjoyment of being able to take a trophy. hunting is about being with friends and family and having fun outdoors.
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I have to agree completely with that Steve. Theres been some excellent posts on here guys...thanks for the responses. Alsatian I am just about exactly like you in the loner and do everything myself part. I camp with another guy but we part at daylight and meet at dark back at the cabin. So I can relate to a lot in your post. I figured up all the expenses this year and gas was by far my biggest expense. I often joke I could eat steak every day for what it costs to deer hunt...lol. I just like to put a couple in the freezer and I always figured if I hunted long enough and hard enough eventually a big one would step in front of me.
I dont really think any of us are looking for a pat on the back but what we really dont want is the other stuff. The trip up north deer hunting has always been sort of a mental vacation for me. The anticipation and everything else make the trip worth while.....actually killing a deer or a nice deer is just icing on the cake. |
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Obviously hunters have their own opinions on how/why/when/where a deer should or shouldn't be killed.....but if it is done legally, that is all that really matters. It is nobody else's business besides your own.
In our camp, when a hunt is successful we all get giddy regardless of who it was or the size of the antlers (if it even has antlers). Some of our guys are looking for wall hangers, some look onlyto fill their freezer, and others to get their first one. The one principle that we all agree on is that no deer should be killed unless you are planning to eat it. Other than that we enjoy being outdoors, in the woods, and away from the craziness that is life. |
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ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper I was wondering if any of you guys that have killed a nice buck this year or in the recent past have noticed this. I was hauling the buck I killed on Thanksgiving Day home. It was my best gun kill to date..was a 9 point that will gross around 130. Really nice for northern WV but what Im typing this about is the fact that I swear I have never gotten so many dirty looks in my life from other hunters. It hasnt changed any since I got home......I cant believe this....since when has deer hunting turned into nothing but a big contest? I think a lot of people out there need to sit down and examine exactly why it is that they are in the woods. Isnt it supposed to be fun? Arent we all in this together? Maybe Im too old fashioned. It looks like the Jackie Bushman mentality has taken over the sport. What is up with that? Hell if somebody kills a nice one I am always happy for them. Always congratulate them or shake their hand..... There were4 or 5 people who acted like that this time....the vast majority were like little kids who had their candy stolen. I can see the reason I have hunted alone for so long. Have you guys had similar experiences? Congrats on your buck.......but were you driving around with the tailgate down?......or like some people who tie it to the 4 wheeler rack when they have plenty of room to put it on the trailer? Everytime i see this i just smile. |
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