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Old 11-07-2007, 03:31 PM
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Yes, moron fits.
Fits who?

I never said anything about trespassing.
And I haven't said anything negative about dog hunting if you're not trespassing.

You don't like dogs for running deer....cool.
I didn't say I don't like it. I've said I don't like it if the dogs are allowed to run land where the dog owner does not have permission to hunt.

I'm just thankful that most people are much more understanding of dogs and fun-loving guys like me that enjoy hunting them.
If I'm on private property and have permission to be there, don't I have just as much right to enjoy my hunt, without interruption by folks who don't have permission to be there?

There are a-holes that would intentionally do the things you are saying. Especially if they knew how much it would irritate you.
Those are the folks who I believe should be cited for trespassing.

But I'm not one of them.
Great.

I have upset one young man while dog hunting. My dogs ran a deer by him and he missed. Then he begin to curse me for scaring HIS deer off. The one that the dogs had been on for about 2 1/2 miles. I apologized profusely and I truly was sorry that he was upset. But that stuff happens inevitably with dog hunting. We weren't trespassing, by the way. We were hunting our land that we had given him permission to hunt. Either way, we intruded on him, at least to some degree.
You had permission to be there. I don't have a problem with that.

I think we just need to be a little bit more understanding. If dogs cause persistant problems, that's different.
That's what our MMA friend from MO described. Again, I'm not condoning what he did.

But most decent dog men (and most are very decent), will try to minimize these problems as much as possible.
I'm sure most are and I'm sure most do.

In a sentence---get that corn cob out of your a** and relax a little.

It's just a dang deer.
No corn cob anywhere. Sorry to disappoint you. It's just a dang deer, acknowledged. But, if I've invested thousands of dollars in my hunt, and I only get time off to hunt a couple weekends a year, and my chance at the buck I've been watching for the last three years is ruined by someone allowing their dogs to run my property when they don't have permission to be there, it's no longer "just a dang deer".
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:37 PM
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agree---it's about respect.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:40 PM
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how could you shoot a dog? Regardless if hes running your deer...thats someones friggen pet dude....not cool at all. It's a sport...not a fight. You cant control where a dog goes...and out of spite for him calling you a city boy...which you probably are...and probably looked like one...i dont think you should have shot his dog out of vengence for him "messing up your deer hunt". He's in the same boat you are...hes a hunter...hunting how he hunts. If you shot my dog...id friggen cut the tree you were sitting in down and burn your property...cause my dog....IS MY BEST FRIEND. I think you shooting a dog shows how much of a coward you are and how lousy it really is...that just because a dog scared all of your poor lil deer away...you had to shoot his pet...how phucked up.
Your entitled to your opinions "dude" be it as uneducated as you may sound. I explained why I did. I did nto do it for what he said... I did for his repeatedly and intentionally making it a point to show uncooperation to a fellow land owner and neighbor.
you should go back and re-read my post(s)

I respected him and his land, right up till he made it a point to show me he was going to what he wants... on my land? hell no.
Good luck pal.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:43 PM
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My point is you don't know jack about what you're talking about.

You're right about keeping your dogs away from people who don't want them around. If you can't control your dog, keep him at home. It's easy to say when you don't know anything about dog hunting. Dogs hunt instinctively--you can't control that.

Now, if I have a neighbor who doesn't like my dogs on his property, I do everything I can to keep them off and far away. It doesn't always work out though. But he is not a moron. He would never shoot a dog. He would call and ask me to keep them away.

and you sound respectable for that... but if I repeatedly told you to please try and keep your dogs out of my property and you basically told me to "get phucked"... you and I would have issues. But you seem more reasonable than the guy I dealt with.
I dont know anythign about dog hunting nor do I claim to... but I respect people.
this guy was a real treat... and far more of an @ss than I have seen from anyone i ever dealt with... including those who I may disagree with.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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how could you shoot a dog? Regardless if hes running your deer...thats someones friggen pet dude....not cool at all. It's a sport...not a fight. You cant control where a dog goes...and out of spite for him calling you a city boy...which you probably are...and probably looked like one...i dont think you should have shot his dog out of vengence for him "messing up your deer hunt". He's in the same boat you are...hes a hunter...hunting how he hunts. If you shot my dog...id friggen cut the tree you were sitting in down and burn your property...cause my dog....IS MY BEST FRIEND. I think you shooting a dog shows how much of a coward you are and how lousy it really is...that just because a dog scared all of your poor lil deer away...you had to shoot his pet...how phucked up.
My Dobie is a pet, my Min-pin is a pet, my Chow-Newfoundland mix is a pet. A tick infested beagle with it's ribs showing, panting like crazy with thirst, it's tongue hanging out while running through the woods is not a pet. You'd be hard pressed to find a dog-hunter around here who treats their dogs like pets, but everyone seems to consider them that when they are on someone else's property. Most around here don't follow the law and don't tag their dogs or use tracking collars. When they pull the dogs in, those that can't be found get left. Those dogs run the woods for days chasing everything in sight. Make no mistake about it, they are not lap dogs that are petted and hand-fed. For the most part, these dogs are ignored until needed.

Here, they can drop dogs off on one square foot of their property on the side of the road and let them runall over everyone else's land. This year, they lost their lease on one side of us so they've moved to the other. Now, the dogs come from the other direction and they can't shoot anywhere on my road. When I hear them, I just stand on my property or the property I'm allowed to hunt. They can't shoot, so if the dogs run one out it's mine. If they protest, they'll protest with the GW. Oddly enough, now that they know it's useless to put the dogs out anywhere around here it's almost ended and I've seen way more deer from my stand.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:23 PM
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Where are you from Beezer? Dog owners like that around here are "taken care of" by concerned citizens. If that's all you see, then I can certainly understand your attitude. It's just not that way in south Arkansas.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:26 PM
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You're right. Repeated encroachment is down right wrong. I don't blame you a bit for being upset.

Remember---it ain't the dog's fault his owner is a jacka**.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:04 PM
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I'm from South Carolina chicken. And don't get me wrong, I know all who hunt with dogs aren't bad. It's the bad ones that ruin the reputation of all of them. I could hop in the truck with a few around here and go hunt no problem. In my opinion, I don't see it as challenging when hunting deer. Coon, possum, bird, etc...I can see, but not deer. If it's what others enjoy,I don't mind. I run the mindset of most others here, so be it as long as I don't have to deal with it. I bowhunt, like I do most other things, because I like to do things the hard and challenging way. I don't see having dogs run a deer out of the woods as being much of challenge. On the other hand, I don't see shooting an animal at 300yds much of one either.....but to each his own.


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Old 11-07-2007, 10:36 PM
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Next time call the Game Warden or the Sheriff if somebody is continually tresspassing. I used to live in NWMO and know how some people think they are the law.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:07 PM
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Please don't bite my head off but, I live and hunt in a area that has die hard dog hunters in it. We have clubs that are anywhere from 25,000 to 100,000 thousand acres. Not every one is as lucky as we are for that very reason. I am a still hunter because my daddy never dog hunted. My wife and her family have run dogs for 60 years. My 4 year old son loves to dog hunt to the point that just tonight I have picked up 2 dogs for him this weekend while hunting with his poppa. I guess what I am babbling about is that we can all enjoy outdoors the way we want if everyone would practice more respect for the fellow hunter. I have seen people dump a box full of dogs on top of a spot where someone is trying to still hunt and that is wrong. But I have also sat in a tree with deer feeding under me and have a pack of dogs run by and it not bother them at all.
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