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Moebedda 11-02-2007 10:34 AM

Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
So evidently, a new cancer research came out stating that eating red meat on a regular basis has an increased risk of colon cancer. I know the study was done with beef, but does anyone have hard evidence about venison?

I eat venison pretty much all winter almost on a daily basis. Am I at an increased risk of cancer? I don't buy meat in the winter. This is going to suck if I am.

buffhntr 11-02-2007 10:50 AM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Dont worry everything causes cancer.

npaden 11-02-2007 01:39 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
I thought the study showed that it was processed meats (like hot dogs, bolonga, etc.) that had the highest cancer risk?

zrexpilot 11-02-2007 01:48 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 

ORIGINAL: Moebedda

So evidently, a new cancer research came out stating that eating red meat on a regular basis has an increased risk of colon cancer. I know the study was done with beef, but does anyone have hard evidence about venison?

I eat venison pretty much all winter almost on a daily basis. Am I at an increased risk of cancer? I don't buy meat in the winter. This is going to suck if I am.
Just make sure you have your vegetables on the side, veggies are known to prevent cancer, so now your balanced out. He He !
Some people get cancer and some dont, I dont think you can stop that, it's in the genes or lack of. I know guys that have smoked for 70 years and die of natural causes, while other people who dont smoke die of lung cancer at 30 yrs of age.

sjsfire 11-02-2007 01:53 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Well hell.......I'm doomed. My family raised beef cattle for many years. Lots of red meat through the week and T-bones on Sunday. My Grandfather passed away two years agoand he was a hamburger eatin machine....everyday. He was only 93 when he passed.

gunny97 11-02-2007 02:32 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Red Meat cancer is linked to the steroids and injections cattle are given to make them grow quick. this has been also linked to chickens that are farm raised by big processing firms. once again its a link. genetics and family history play a lot.
as far as deer , hog elk etc. my internal medicine doc and cardiologist eat the stuff i kill and like you i eat more deer and other game than beef .
fill your freezer with wild game and dont worry about it

indianahunter83 11-02-2007 07:52 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
The connection isn't completely about the fact you are eating red meat. The connection is really due to the fact that most people that eat a lot of red meat tend not to eat much high fiber. If you eat a high fiber diet you decrease your risk of cancer. This being said genetics is much more important. Basically if you are over 50 you need a colonoscopy. If you have a family member who had or has colon cancer you need to get a colonoscopy 5-10 years before they were diagnosed, or at age 50 which ever comes first!

Beezer 11-02-2007 08:00 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

Just make sure you have your vegetables on the side, veggies are known to prevent cancer, so now your balanced out. He He !
How many times have you stood in line and heard this one from a "slightly" out of shape lady........

"I'll have two apple pies and a #1 value meal with a small diet coke please"

scott26 11-03-2007 06:01 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Eating red meat has been linked to cancer but its got more to do with how the meat is cooked instead of just the meat itself. Grilling meat has been shown to deposit carcinogens on the surface of the meat to be consumed. Its the burnt stuff from the meal before or burning the surface of what your eating is where the trouble is. Countries that dont grill have significantly lower rates of stomach and colon cancer than us Americans. I always clean the grill real well prior to cooking and make sure I dont burn or turn the edges black of the meat I am about to eat. Also fiber helps to pass that bad stuff through you before it can sit in your intestine and absorb into the bloodstream.


ILL Boy 11-03-2007 07:27 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Nothing better for you than wild game, no hormones or preservatives. Eat your veggies and you'lllive a long life.

indianahunter83 11-03-2007 07:36 PM

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Actually our incidence of stomach cancer is much lower than the asian countries. As far as the carcinogens you are talking about that gets in your food. Removing the burnt parts is futile in that the "carcinogens" you are talking about would be evenly distributed through out the meat.

scott26 11-04-2007 06:39 AM

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Cutting the burnt edges off wont help much with the carcinogens from previous char/ash in the grill from being deposited so in that sence I agree but the new burnt meat itself is supposedly linked to cancer as well. Anything cooked black is supposedly where you may start running in to problems.

But as another poster already said I am sure you can find research linking cancer to about everything these days. Wild game is about as healthy eating as one could get.

Alsatian 11-04-2007 10:28 AM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Face it, you aren't getting out of this life alive!!! You are going to have to die of something. Used to be you would get killed by wild animals or fighters. If you didn't die of such trauma you would die from disease. Our world is pretty peaceful and we generally have tamed life threatening bacterial and viral infections. This means we live longer and other factors begin killing us.

Some general strategies for living longer. DO NOT SMOKE!!! DO NOT DRINK EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL!!! Keep your weight down and exercise. Get your sleep. Try to eat a balanced, healthy diet. Go to the doctor for regular check-ups when you get older and get tested for (1) cholesterol level, (2) blood pressure, (3) PSA test (prostate specific andogyn test), and (4) colonoscopy tests. If the doctor says, during these regular check-ups, that you have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, prostate problems, follow his advice to rectify the problem. The colonoscopies should begin about age 50 and be repeated about every 5 years. The strategy is to find polyps which are potenitally pre-cancerous protusions from the walls of the intestines and remove any that are found. The development of this kind of cancer is slow, so every 5 years is often enough.

I like to drink. I drink about 1.5 litres of excellent German bier about once a month, and this is fairly strong beer. I drink about 1/2 bottle of wine on most Saturday evenings with my dinner with my wife and family, maybe a bit more as I'm often sipping a couple of glasses of wine while I cook this meal. Sometimes I'll drink some wine with a dinner during the week. I consider this moderate alcohol consumption. I consider a bottle or more of vodka per day immoderate alcohol consumption and hazardous to your health. I consider a six-pack of beer every day as immoderate. Use some sense.

What's a healthy diet? Common?! Haven't you been listening?! Don't eat food heavy in saturated fats or even worse transfats. Keep your fat consumption down. High levels of fat were necessary when we dug a lot of ditches by hand rather than sitting on a backhoe manipulating hydraulic control levers or tippity-tapping computer keys all day while sitting on our butts. Eat fruits and vegetables. Get some omaga-3 fatty acids (salmon, tuna, olive oil). Get some fibre.

Find out how to identify skin cancer at an early stage. There is some rule of thumb ABCD for identifying skin blotches or blemishes as skin cancer: Asymmetrical, Border irregularity, Color (intensely black, possibly bluish tint), Diameter (large than size of a pea). If you detect such a candidate, go see your doctor pronto. Skin cancer that is identified early, is very treatable. Failure to identify skin cancer early can put you in the ground in a hurry.

If you do all of these things . . . I guarantee you are still going to die, maybe a little later than otherwise. It may also be the case that living healthier will allow you to enjoy a rich and active life later into your life rather than suffering from some related problems like worn out knees from carrying your heavy body around for 50 years or arthritis for having eaten a bad diet. And you can still die from trauma -- in a car accident from some drunk hitting you, a helicopter falling on you out of the sky, a drive by shooting.

But you play the odds. Eat right. Sleep. Exercise. Don't smoke. Drink in moderation. More complicated or detailed procedures than those described above are getting into speculative areas that have, I would suspect, less high payoff value. They are dealing with secondary effects and should only be fretted and worried about when you have the primary effects addressed.

wiranger 11-04-2007 09:47 PM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
Carcinogens and grilling comes from fat dripping from the meat and hitting store bought charcoal. Its the chemicals in store bought charcoal that are supposedly carcinogenic.

NBDeerHunter 11-05-2007 04:29 AM

RE: Red Meat Cancer scare.
 
cancer seems to be caused by anything and everything lately........eat your meat and be happy!!!!

kevin1 11-05-2007 05:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: buffhntr

Dont worry everything causes cancer.
Wrong, cancer research causes cancer...;)


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