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RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
Well I'll have to say I've never gone to the extent of Cardeer or Taz. But I have turned in reports to the warden three times when I thought I had enough info for him to do something. Only resulted in action one of the three times. Two guys got busted for a poached buck. Other two times he wasn't able to act. On one of them he told me he was sure of who, but not enough hard evidence to arrest on. Other time was a pure dead end even though I showed him the bodies, they didn't come back for them (poached deer).
I've never acted on things I just hear. Too much BS out there and I don't want to waste a wardens time. |
RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
I have no problem with someone shooting to feed their family.
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RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
Doc
And is it OK if he robs your house to feed his famly too? Poaching is theivery, plain and simple! |
RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
i know where your coming from and i usually wouldnt turn someone in for a minor offense but if somebody came on the land i hunt and did somethin illegal i would take action as i know most people would or if it was on public land but i will admit i probably wouldnt do nothin if they did it on their land or if i was on someone elses land and i saw soemone do somethin i would tell the owner and let them do what they wanted and i ahte to admit it but i dont think our officials here would do much just a slap on the wrist so prolly i woulda just take the deer from them
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RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
I didn't reply to the earlier post, just read it. The local GW has full permission to enter my land, stake it out, set up decoys, etc. So far he has busted two poachers in the bottom. At the first sign of spotlighting he gets a call. I don't report rumors or bragging; no proof. But I will give the GW hints as to what I have heard. I can't report suspected poachers on second-handed information. But when the GW makes an on site arrest; it's one more poacher burned.
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RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
Doc623, I talk a lot to the local GW and he once made a comment that stuck with me. He said something to this effect,"Years ago in the depression days I could understand a person taking a deer to feed his/her family. But, These days there are plenty of programs out there available for those people to get help. Pride is no excuse."
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RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
Let me clear up my stance on this......I don't think there is ANY doubt that any of us would turn in tresspassers, poachers, or spotlighters on our own property or hunting grounds. That is unless you yourself were an outlaw or unless you handled the situation yourself. What I'm talking about (and what I think Janc is talking about) is the threads that are so common on here about how how we'd turn in someone if we heard they had been poaching or suspected it or how we would never break any type of game law ourselves.
I admit that I try to be a very ethical hunter and obey the game laws but I'd be lying if I said I never killed a squirrel or rabbit before I even checked to see if they were in season. I remember a huge thread over in the Bowhunting forum where a majority of the folks started bashing a guy because he said he shot a rabbit in his back yard with his bow. Well some do-gooder noticed what state he was from and saw that rabbit season was closed and just had to bring that to everyone's attention. It went downhill from there with people calling him a poacher and threatening to turn him in. The thought had never even crossed his mind as to whether the rabbit was in season. But that didn't stop the self-righteous from beating thier chests and bragging how ethical they were. Those are the threads that make me sick, because 90% of the folks reading it would have shot the rabbit too.IMO |
RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
The sure way to lose credibility is to start a thread then run away.Credible people stay around to defend their cause.
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RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
These threads DO make for interesting discussion and can bring out some things that we might need to think about.
Nobody wants anyone to trespass on the land that they hunt....but...... I have participated in threads where I have pointed out that trespassing to "recover your deer" is an illegal activity. That fits the definition of poaching quite nicely. Yet many hunters will []uopenly admit[/u] that they will trespass onto posted land, to recover a deer "out of respect for the animal." Trespassing is every bit a illegal as shooting the monster buck out of season as was discussed on the other thread. I think every single person said, "No, I wouldn't shoot it. It isn't even a question of ethics, it's downright illegal." (or things to that effect). Think about that. We wouldn't SHOOT the buck under illegal conditions, but some of us (surprisingly quite a few!) would TRACK the buck under illegal conditions, as in trespassing on posted land. Tracking an animal is hunting. According to the reasoning on the other thread, if it is illegal, then of course it is unethical, right? No one seemed to argue that point. It seems, however, that rule goes right out the window after the shot is fired. Maybe janc isn't all wrong. I am not telling anyone how to hunt. Just something to think about. |
RE: You people aren't THAT honest.
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These threads DO make for interesting discussion and can bring out some things that we might need to think about. Nobody wants anyone to trespass on the land that they hunt....but...... I have participated in threads where I have pointed out that trespassing to "recover your deer" is an illegal activity. That fits the definition of poaching quite nicely. Yet many hunters will []uopenly admit[/u] that they will trespass onto posted land, to recover a deer "out of respect for the animal." Trespassing is every bit a illegal as shooting the monster buck out of season as was discussed on the other thread. I think every single person said, "No, I wouldn't shoot it. It isn't even a question of ethics, it's downright illegal." (or things to that effect). Think about that. We wouldn't SHOOT the buck under illegal conditions, but some of us (surprisingly quite a few!) would TRACK the buck under illegal conditions, as in trespassing on posted land. Tracking an animal is hunting. According to the reasoning on the other thread, if it is illegal, then of course it is unethical, right? No one seemed to argue that point. It seems, however, that rule goes right out the window after the shot is fired. Maybe janc isn't all wrong. I am not telling anyone how to hunt. Just something to think about. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>vc111 I don't know about where you live, but here, and other states where I hunt, the LAW REQUIRES, you to make every effort to recover a wounded deer. Sure the proper way is to go explain it to the landowner, and get his permission first, but frequently you have absentee landowners, and have land that is not posted, so which law do you violate? Privet Property, or Recover your game animal law? |
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