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is it bad hunters ethics?
has anyone else heard that it is bad hunters ethics to shot a albino deer. i heard it will bring forth 8 bad years of hunts.
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
It isn't bad ethics here in NC because it is legal.
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What do ethics and superstition have to do with each other in this case??
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ORIGINAL: il coyote What do ethics and superstition have to do with each other in this case??  |
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Albino deer are genetically inferior,perfectly legal in Ohio to shoot, If given the chance i would take out of the heard in a minute. [/align]
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
ORIGINAL: teamster284 Albino deer are genetically inferior,perfectly legal in Ohio to shoot, If given the chance i would take out of the heard in a minute. |
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Can't shoot one in IA. Dumb law as they are inferior to the breeding gene pool. Real rare and people like seeing them. No, it not unethical to shoot one where it is legal to do so. Why would you feel that it is?
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
it's perfectly ethical. WARNING: SCIENCE CONTENT
Genes control the expression of physical traits, such as albinism. Genes come in allele pairs, that is, you get one gene from your mom and one from your dad. Genes are always paired-two alleles (usually, but we won't get into that) Dominant/Recessive: Dominant alleles take priority over recessive. Recessive traits can only be expressed when there are no dominant alleles for the gene. You can be homozygous (having either both dominant alleles or both recessive) or heterozygous (different alleles). Genes are represented by paired letters. Dominant alleles are represented by a capital letter, recessive by lowercase. WW-Homozygous dominant, the dominant trait is expressed Ww-Heterozygous, the dominant trait is expressed; the animal is a carrier for the recessive trait ww-Homozygous recessive-the recessive trait is expressed albinism is inherited, and the condition is caused by recessive genes. most deer have the dominant genes for this trait, which produces the normal color. albino deer have both recessive alleles for the trait, making them albino-they don't produce melanin, the pigment which brings color to the hair, skin, and eyes. deer can be carriers of albinism yet still look normal-they are heterozygous, one dominant allele (which codes for normal color) and one recessive allele. Like this: "A" is the dominant allele which codes for the normal color, while "a" is the recessive allele and codes for albinism AA-This deer is said to be homozygous dominant, and is normal color. This deer can only pass on the dominant gene for normal color ("A") to its offspring. Aa-This deer is said to be heterozygous, and is normal color. This deer can pass either the normal color dominant gene ("A") or the albino recessive gene ("a") to its offspring. aa-This deer is said be homozygous recessive, and is albino. This deer can only pass the recessive albino gene ("a") to its offspring. It's not really a matter of genetic inferiority, there's nothing really wrong with albino deer-they just drew a bad hand from the gene pool. Albino deer, or any albino organism with predators, are much less likely to survive to adulthood, because they are easily picked off by predators. Most albino deer do not make it past their first winter. Killing albino deer won't eliminate the condition from the gene pool, however it may make it even more infrequent. So for a state to say it's illegal to kill them b/c they are albino and "rare" is pointless, because the trait can still exist through carriers, which look normal, but carry the albino gene. |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
If we're going to discuss ethics then maybe we should define EXACTLY what ethics means.
Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition defines ETHICS as...... ethics, n. 1. the study of standards of conduct and moral judgement; moral philosophy 2. a treatise on this study 3. the system or code of morals of a particular person, religion, group, profession, etc. But that's that particular dictionary's definition. In the hunter safety education classes that I teach, we do a segment on conservation in which we cover ethics. We define ethics as MORAL PRINCIPALS OR VALUES THAT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG; THEY ARE UNWRITTEN RULES THAT SOCIETY EXPECTS TO BE FOLLOWED. So with that, if it is a written rule or law IMO it would certainly be unethical. But if it is not a written rule or lawthen IMO it is each individuals choice. As far as 8 years bad luck...........that's just superstition, wives taleBS. |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
Not unethical, as long as it's legal.
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
ok so it's got no pigmentation. It stands out. So what if it's a shooter and it's legal in the state to shoot it. Lower the boom on that guy before somebody else does. Then get it mounted. :D and you can ask all your buddies if they think that it's ethical.
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Here it is legal, and they say it is seven years bad luck. But, if given the opportunity I would shoot one and try to get a full mount of it done so others can see it too.
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
If its legal, it's an awesome trophy to harvest!
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
ORIGINAL: NiceAndBlue ORIGINAL: teamster284 Albino deer are genetically inferior,perfectly legal in Ohio to shoot, If given the chance i would take out of the heard in a minute. |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
if its a deer, and its legal, its going in the freezer.
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It is here, because it's illegal in Tennessee.
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
In the hunter safety education classes that I teach, we do a segment on conservation in which we cover ethics. We define ethics as MORAL PRINCIPALS OR VALUES THAT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG; THEY ARE UNWRITTEN RULES THAT SOCIETY EXPECTS TO BE FOLLOWED. So with that, if it is a written rule or law IMO it would certainly be unethical. But if it is not a written rule or lawthen IMO it is each individuals choice. As far as 8 years bad luck...........that's just superstition, wives taleBS. |
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ORIGINAL: johnny_b_goode it's perfectly ethical. WARNING: SCIENCE CONTENT Genes control the expression of physical traits, such as albinism. Genes come in allele pairs, that is, you get one gene from your mom and one from your dad. Genes are always paired-two alleles (usually, but we won't get into that) Dominant/Recessive: Dominant alleles take priority over recessive. Recessive traits can only be expressed when there are no dominant alleles for the gene. You can be homozygous (having either both dominant alleles or both recessive) or heterozygous (different alleles). Genes are represented by paired letters. Dominant alleles are represented by a capital letter, recessive by lowercase. WW-Homozygous dominant, the dominant trait is expressed Ww-Heterozygous, the dominant trait is expressed; the animal is a carrier for the recessive trait ww-Homozygous recessive-the recessive trait is expressed albinism is inherited, and the condition is caused by recessive genes. most deer have the dominant genes for this trait, which produces the normal color. albino deer have both recessive alleles for the trait, making them albino-they don't produce melanin, the pigment which brings color to the hair, skin, and eyes. deer can be carriers of albinism yet still look normal-they are heterozygous, one dominant allele (which codes for normal color) and one recessive allele. Like this: "A" is the dominant allele which codes for the normal color, while "a" is the recessive allele and codes for albinism AA-This deer is said to be homozygous dominant, and is normal color. This deer can only pass on the dominant gene for normal color ("A") to its offspring. Aa-This deer is said to be heterozygous, and is normal color. This deer can pass either the normal color dominant gene ("A") or the albino recessive gene ("a") to its offspring. aa-This deer is said be homozygous recessive, and is albino. This deer can only pass the recessive albino gene ("a") to its offspring. It's not really a matter of genetic inferiority, there's nothing really wrong with albino deer-they just drew a bad hand from the gene pool. Albino deer, or any albino organism with predators, are much less likely to survive to adulthood, because they are easily picked off by predators. Most albino deer do not make it past their first winter. Killing albino deer won't eliminate the condition from the gene pool, however it may make it even more infrequent. So for a state to say it's illegal to kill them b/c they are albino and "rare" is pointless, because the trait can still exist through carriers, which look normal, but carry the albino gene. Oh yeah - Mendall was a fraud... ...sort of :D |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
As long as it is legal where you hunt, there is nothing unethical about it!
I can't even understand why it would be illegal anywhere! An albino deer usually has a shorter life expectancy anyway! Part of that might be due to them not having any camoflage and being easy prey for predators other than hunters! But again, there is really no scientific reason to protect them! |
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Rarely am I negative to posters of stupid questions.......in this case all I can say is 'get a grip'.
I vote this the stupidest post I've ever read. |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
ORIGINAL: JagMagMan As long as it is legal where you hunt, there is nothing unethical about it! I can't even understand why it would be illegal anywhere! An albino deer usually has a shorter life expectancy anyway! Part of that might be due to them not having any camoflage and being easy prey for predators other than hunters! But again, there is really no scientific reason to protect them! The reason people protect them is that they're beautiful, and people like to watch them. |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
My buddy shot an albino a couple years ago. I heard it's bad luck to do so.
Now he's divorced...you descide. |
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ORIGINAL: younggun243 The reason people protect them is that they're beautiful, and people like to watch them. |
RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
It's just a superstition. Nothing ethical about it.They are just as normal as any other deer, just a different color. We have a white buck here that passes thru now and then. No one shoots him cause he's nice to look at. All the neighbors hopes he hangs around. He has put out one solid white fawn so far.
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RE: is it bad hunters ethics?
I don't see it as unethical, but we wouldn't do it.
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