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dmcguire 01-22-2007 01:48 PM

Human Urine?
 
There's an old myth that deer will not come into an area that has human urine. I recently read an article that this is not true. In fact, during the rut, it has been proven that urinating on deer scrapes on trees will bring a buck back to the area to check it out. To make sure no one is interfering with their territory. Has anyone else heard of this? Can we finally leave the urine bottles at home?

sjsfire 01-22-2007 02:33 PM

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Here is my experience with human urine. 2002 in Southern Illinois we were hit with about 4+ inches of snow, then sleet, and more snow overnight. Knowing that the deer was probably going to hold up after the storm I went out anyways to my usual spot on the government land in Pope County. I went in and sat all day. When I packed up and was heading out I stopped half way to my truck and couldn't stand it any longer. I heard too pissin in the woods ain't good. I did the deed and walked on to my truck. The only tracks going in and out was what I made. The next morning I went back out to the same spot and there were deer tracks every where I had been the afternoon before and piss spots all around mine. So, I'd say it doesn't matter in my opinion.

bobcat07 01-22-2007 02:50 PM

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I agree that it dosent bother the deer. I seen a example done and they put out human urine, and others kinds.A buck came right in and was sniffing and testing the human pee with his nose in the air and licking his nose, ignoring the others. I go where ever I have too and and doesnt bother them. I can go near a ground blind and they walk right by it

Mike Hill 01-22-2007 03:43 PM

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I have spent a lot of money keeping scent free. I'm not taking any chances I will keep using a bottle to Pee in. Thank you

fingerz42 01-22-2007 03:45 PM

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Their have been many articles on this subject and lately the trend is that it doesnt hurt your hunting chances. I say take a pee when you gotta pee. I urinated and about 2 and a half hours later killed a 6 point.

lethalconnection 01-22-2007 03:46 PM

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Hey you gotta go you gotta go, i havent found it affects the hunting at all, now other people believe differently and hey let them be me i dont think it bothers them.

excalibur43 01-22-2007 03:57 PM

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In my experience, it hasn't bothered them at all.

8mm/06 01-22-2007 04:46 PM

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I have had more than one deer (bucks included) lick the base of the tree my blind was in not too long after I pissed down the trunk to minimize the noise. I think a humans B.O. may be upsetting to deer but my experience is that urine is not an alarm thing to deer in general.
I'm not an authority, and whether the big smart bucks know the difference or not I cannot say.
But my experience tells me that human urine smell may not be a deal breaker for deer in your area.

gamehunter1269 01-22-2007 07:06 PM

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well im just gona keep peein in my bottle and play it safe

flyinlowe 01-23-2007 11:00 AM

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One of the TV hunting shows discussed this and inlisted the advice of some type of "scientist, or biologist" he said that chemically there is not a significant difference between the make up of human urine compared to most animals urine. Other then female's in heat type stuff our urine wont smell a lot different then all the other critters that piss in the woods. It is different but a deer couldn't pick it out as being human and not that of an animal He suggested that deer are used to smelling urine and human urine would act as more of a cover scent to cover other odors you might have emitted in the woods that will spook a deer.
On a side note in a biology class I took in college I was taught that chemically sweat and urine are identical and under a microscope you can't tell the difference. They are both the bodies way of elimnating liquid waste. He said this is why the old white shirts of a person that sweats heavily will get yellow stains in the arm pits. Think about that the next time there is some sweat running down your face.

Red Lion 01-23-2007 11:08 AM

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I have read and heard as well that human pee pee does not adversely affect deer.

kevin1 01-23-2007 11:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: flyinlowe

On a side note in a biology class I took in college I was taught that chemically sweat and urine are identical and under a microscope you can't tell the difference.
I don't know what's coming out the end of your junk, but mine sure doesn't smell like sweat to me. Tell you what, set up a ground blind, I'll set up a climber overhead on a hot day and we'll see how long you'll let me "sweat" on ya...;):D

Rebel Hog 01-23-2007 11:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: kevin1


ORIGINAL: flyinlowe

On a side note in a biology class I took in college I was taught that chemically sweat and urine are identical and under a microscope you can't tell the difference.


I don't know what's coming out the end of your junk, but mine sure doesn't smell like sweat to me. Tell you what, set up a ground blind, I'll set up a climber overhead on a hot day and we'll see how long you'll let me "sweat" on ya...;):D
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DKevin, you don't have Piss Ant's around your toilet?

Red Lion 01-23-2007 11:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: kevin1


ORIGINAL: flyinlowe

I don't know what's coming out the end of your junk, but mine sure doesn't smell like sweat to me. Tell you what, set up a ground blind, I'll set up a climber overhead on a hot day and we'll see how long you'll let me "sweat" on ya...;):D
I bet that is what you tell the ladies too!? ;)

isatarak 01-23-2007 10:24 PM

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I carry a pee bottle and have never and never will pee around my deer stand.

However, I don't think it hurts a thing and I urge everyone else to go ahead and piss around your stands all you want and even take a crap, too. I heard that's all right too. All animals crap and deer can't tell the difference between crap either.














Bulzeye 01-23-2007 10:59 PM

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I've personally seen several bucks, including an old experienced 11 pointer, sniff where I peed within the hour and walk off with no alarm whatsoever.

I make sure to look around really well before whipping it out so I don't miss a shot opportunity at a deer that is nearby, but other than that I see no reason to hold it, or bottle it.

I had read debates on this when I first started hunting and was just learning about scent control and deer behavior. I decided to learn first-hand by my own experience. There is no better teacher, and until you've tried it, you'll only be taking somebody else's word for it.

Good luck.
Share what you learn.

skeeter 7MM 01-23-2007 11:24 PM

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Years ago on PBS Michigan their was a show called Practical Sportsman with a host by the name of Fred Trost. I am sure some of you may know or recall this show. Any way he did testing with human pee and bottled deerpee which resulted in no adverse reactions. The reasonbehind it was to say your peeing away your money buying bottled pee. This episode really did nothing to how I view scent or human pee but it was interesting none the less.

I pee in a bottle when I'm in a blind for obvious reasons[:'(]! When out in the woods I don't. Though I also don't use scent loct suits or even sprays, I just hunt the wind and be smart about howI approach/depart my spots. Works for me.

Predator26 01-24-2007 05:11 PM

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I use to think the same thing until last year when I went whitetail hunting with my grandfather. Against my wishes, my grandfather decided to take a piss 10 yards from our spot. About 20 minutes later we returned to the truck momentarily to warm up, and when we got back to our spot there was deer tracks circling the piss puddle!

monsterbucks75 01-24-2007 06:16 PM

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I try not to piss in the deer woods, but when i have to- it hasn't seemed to matter. Last year i pissed and it wasn't 15 minutes later i dropped a 161 1/8 8 point. so my opion is go when you got to go!

djschuett 01-24-2007 06:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: flyinlowe

On a side note in a biology class I took in college I was taught that chemically sweat and urine are identical and under a microscope you can't tell the difference. They are both the bodies way of elimnating liquid waste. He said this is why the old white shirts of a person that sweats heavily will get yellow stains in the arm pits. Think about that the next time there is some sweat running down your face.
That prof is full of a different kind of excrement.

Sweat has much higher concentrations of saline and very little urea whereas urine typically has much higher levels of urea as well as many other chemicals and biological waste products that I'm not even gonna mention here. They are entirely different under microscope. If you want, I will send you one of my med school textbooks that has entire sections detailing the chemical make-up of urine and sweat.

Sweat's main purpose is to cool your body off, not to get rid of waste.

The reason you get yellow pit stains in your shirts from sweating is from a combination of the chemicals in your deodorant and the waste products of microbes living in and around your sebaceous glands. Human sweat naturally has no odor, it is the waste products of the microbes I mentioned that give sweat it's odor.


Long story/post short: Urine and sweat are entirely different liquids. Anyone claiming anything different doesn't know any better and definitely shouldn't be teaching a 6th grade biology course let alone a college level course!


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