Neches

Well this morning I was sitting on my deer stand on private property close to the property line that is bordered by a timber co land that is a deer lease. About 30 min after daylight I heard a few dogs bayed, not far across the property line. Since we have so many hogs in this area I figured they had bayed a hog, and were doing a fine job of it, I was enjoying the bay. Then I got worried that if the hunters on that property hear this they might shoot the dogs. Well after about 15 minutes of this the shots rang out and wounded dogs started yelping and screaming, and then it went quiet. This afternoon at camp, a friend came driving up that had been to visit a friend at the deer lease. He jumped out and said he had the scoop, a hunter had wounded a deer yesterday evening and the dogs had found it and bayed it this morning. I asked him what they said the dogs looked like, they said it was a cur dog and 3 blue healers. Well the owners of this property that I hunt on live a mile away, the cur dog belongs to one of the owners and the healers belong to another property owner. I don't understand why they didn't shoot the deer to put it out of its mysery and pet the dogs for finding and baying this deer. Why did they have to shoot the dogs and the deer? Would somebody please tell me where this dog killing mentallity has come from. These weren't high priced hunting dogs, they were good pets and not very good cow dogs. Just country dogs that live and roam where they want to mostly on private property because this family owns so much land. They just happen to get off the land a little today and got killed by guys that don't own crap, they lease a little land to deer hunt on and think they have control over everything that happens on it. Where does this dog killing mentality come from, why do they think a dog is going to ruin their hunting? 20 years ago it was not like this, it just keeps getting worse and worse. I have treed coons with dogs barking and going nuts and watched deer laying 50 yards away watching the whole thing, I have hog hunted with dogs and watched deer stand there and watch us as we walk by with the dogs running a hog. I have watched deer being run by dogs, the deer does not leave the country running like Emmit Smith, the deer will just stay as far ahead of the dog as he has to, at any time the deer could run off and leave the dogs standing there wondering where it went. I have heard deer hunters say they kill every dog they see on thier lease, WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
We have talked to the local Game Warden he said it is a Felony in Texas to kill a dog. The land owner is going to see if he can make and example out of these deer hunters.


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Man, you should have been here yesterday.

Gooch

Any so called "sportsman" that finds sport in killing a mans best friend. Is a worthless piece of ****! If they lived in Texas. I'd serve them up and ASS WHOOPIN!

-Gooch-

coyote170

Ditto on the Ass Whoopin they shoot one of my
dogs they may be in for more trouble then they
want in this life time!!

knobby

I will start by saying that I have never shot a dog...but heres one reason I wont guarantee you that I never will

knobby works 12 hour swing shifts which doesnt leave much time for hunting

knobby spent a fair bit of money on stands...feeders...food plots...lease fees...miles and gas on my truck etc etc

knobby did all this just to make it out bowhunting on a couple of my one day 'weekends'

while sitting in stand knobby watched 2 loose beagles running deer all over a farm where theyre not suppose to be

knobby was PISSED

dogs may not be so lucky next time

** I almost got him but I refuse to take a marginal shot **

droptine

I don't believe in hunting deer with dogs but I would never kill a dog I saw chasing a deer. Dog hunting for deer is legal here but it does get out of hand when hunters let their dogs go on other peoples land. I've seen pets chasing deer in the middle of winter and got them on film. Dogs chasing deer in the winter drains deer of their precious energy and can cause them to starv if left unchecked.

It's not right to kill the dogs but I fear if I saw a dog, wolf or coyotes dragging down a deer I would be tempted to shoot or try and scare it away.

The deer here have enough troubles with coyotes and wolves chasing them. When the dogs get in the woods it makes it that much harder to hunt them. They're scared and rightly so. I'm not sure but I think here you can shoot a dog chasing deer on your land out of season or not.

I share land with some dog hunters and during the gun season when they're allowed to hunt with dogs I go somewhere else. You can have a lot of trouble trying to call, rattle or scent in buck when the dogs are in the woods. They're just too spooked.


IT'S NOT THE DOGS THAT CHASE DEER IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO LET THEM



GOD BLESS
Charlie Patrick
http://www3.sympatico.ca/chazpat/wildcanada.html


Edited by - droptine on 12/02/2002 13:11:35

Edited by - droptine on 12/03/2002 09:13:13

strut

I had a couple of dogs find a crippled deer that I had shot one year and I throwed them a healthy serving of deer guts. Its illegal here to run deer with dogs but I kind of like to see some come thru every once in awhile, There is so much brush around here it kind of helps, But I can understand how some people feel about dogs running deer where they ain't suppose to be. It would be very hard for me to shoot somebodies dog even if it cost me a trophy.

THE NRA, WHERE WOULD YOU AS A GUN-OWNER BE WITHOUT THEM.
GUN-OWNERS, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.


Edited by - strut on 12/01/2002 19:50:42

burniegoeasily

I would never shot a dog. I can understand the frustration of haveing a dog screw up your hunt. I had a dog screw up my hunting this weekend. I was stalking a Buck (the first nice one I had seen all year) and out of the blue a dog ran out after it. I didnt want to shot the dog, he was only doing what dogs do, but I did want to shot the owner for letting his dog run wild. If the dog owners like their dogs they need to keep them under controle. I could understand a dog getting shot. knobby brings up a good point.

Personally I would never kill a dog, Im a dog lover, but I can see it being justified. The owners need to take care of their dogs, but as for the situation stated in this thread topic, those guys need to be casterated. They had no just reason for shooting the dogs, if any thing they sould have been thankful for the dogs finding their mistake.<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

&quot;Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity&quot; Martin Luther King Jr.

Edited by - burniegoeasily on 12/01/2002 19:54:31

Ballistictip

I'm with Knobby on this one. I paid $250 for the lease and have around $100 in a food plot. Figure in another $200 worth of corn which I feed year round and $150 for the feeder I put the corn in. Batteris for the feeder @ $6.00 each replaced every two months is another $36.00. Now for the gas. Round trip it's 110 miles getting 16 miles per gallon. We'll figure 20 trips (which is very conservative) equals 2,200 miles at 16 miles per gallon would be 137.5 gallons of gas. At $1.25 per gallon that equals $171.87 in gas. Grand total is $657.87 which doesn't include the price of the feeder. This also doesn't include lunch, snacks, drinks, deer scent, bullets, well you get the idea. When dogs come running through chasing deer all over the place I get really pissed off. Out of rage it would be very possible for me to shoot a dog.

As for this guys pet, he knows it's deer season so he should keep the dog put up. I guess there are no roads where he lives either? Almost everyday I see dogs run over. If people truly cared about there pets this wouldn't happen.

I have three dogs that are very much a part of the family. They stay in the house most of the time but when they are outside they stay in a chain link fence. I've had it out with several neighbors for letting their dogs run loose and on one occasion it nearly turned into a fist fight.

About 2 years ago a neighbors basset hound that had been allowed to run loose bit my son in my yard. Needless to say, it's burried in the woods behind my house.

Sorry to go so far off the subject but I spend way too much money to let somebody's dog ruin it for me. Maybe a firm warning for a first time offense if you know the dogs owner. After that, they're fair game.

Recon Dude

I have had wild dogs and a fox scare deer off when I was hunting and I now hunt fox...if the wild dogs come back, they are gone too.

stubblejumper

Wher I hunt it is illegal to use dogs to hunt deer.I have never shot a dog myself but any dogs seen running deer are shot by whomever sees it including conservation officers.

Edited by - stubblejumper on 12/01/2002 20:29:29