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wasting deer!
i was talking to this kid i know and i asked him how many deer he has got this season. He was like umm 7. So no big deal but he never kept any! He either gave them away or cut the horns off and let the deer rot. It just makes me sick when people are so greedy and dont even eat the deer. Its like they kill just to kill. Anyone else have similiar experiences and what should i do if anything?
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Turn him in...People like that make me sick too. He might be full of PooP also. But turn him in anyway's
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yea i would turn him in to, i mean i know people who shot that many deer in a season or more but they are for family members who can't hunt, point is that the meat gets eaten not just the horns. now i know it doesn't make it legal but what can ya do. if some one is just taking antlers and thats it well thats a big problem
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I would pry kick him in the gones!JK We have a program Called HUSH, all you have to do is gut the deer, and take it to an approved locker, and they do the rest. Meat goes to food pantries and prisons, stuff like that. If it were me I would call the DNR or Sheriff or something, he'd be screwed here in IOWA. they fine you by the score of the bucks rack, fines can get up to $10,000. they could take his guns, truck, house, you name it, it would probably stop his stupidity, hopefuly, but really, turn it in.
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people who just cut off the antlers and leave them should not ever be allowed to kill a deer again the least you can do is drag them out and skin them and give them to someone who wants or needs the meat
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Turn his butt in hopefully they will sock it to him .[:@][:@][:@]
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What you could do is to collect roadkilled deer & put them in his front yard with a sign saying "don't waste venison." I think he'd get the message after about the 50th carcass...
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I give away most of the deer I shoot, but they don't go to waste.
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This is what the WI dnr is all about in the cwd zones there are thousands of deer being tossed because you can take as many deer as you want. The 1st year of this slaughter the dnr even set up dump sites. We went to check one out and they had three of the large dumpsters your see at construction sites set up, and they were overflowing with deer plus many more that were laying on the ground. DISGUSTING. But the worst part is the number of so called hunters that have no problem with this. I really have started to believe we have alot of bad apples in the barrel and will ruin everything. A number of landowners are not allowing hunter access until the dnr comes senses.
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ORIGINAL: rcw280 This is what the WI dnr is all about in the cwd zones there are thousands of deer being tossed because you can take as many deer as you want. The 1st year of this slaughter the dnr even set up dump sites. We went to check one out and they had three of the large dumpsters your see at construction sites set up, and they were overflowing with deer plus many more that were laying on the ground. DISGUSTING. But the worst part is the number of so called hunters that have no problem with this. I really have started to believe we have alot of bad apples in the barrel and will ruin everything. A number of landowners are not allowing hunter access until the dnr comes senses. Good for the landowners. At least some one has some sense. |
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Turn him for what?? Killing 7 deer which nobody has stated/proven were illegal.He cuts off horns - so what.
How many bucks can he legally harvest?? He donates deer to family who can't hunt - Good for him. So what has been stated here that would convince ME or anybody else this illusive hunter is some kind of outlaw and should be "Turned In". Come on - lets cough up some specific facts before we condem someone for killing 7 deer etc...etc....bla...bla.. Where's the Beef ?? |
RE: wasting deer!
ORIGINAL: wi_buckstomper i was talking to this kid i know and i asked him how many deer he has got this season. He was like umm 7. So no big deal but he never kept any! He either gave them away or cut the horns off and let the deer rot. It just makes me sick when people are so greedy and dont even eat the deer. Its like they kill just to kill. Anyone else have similiar experiences and what should i do if anything? |
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We have a couple head hunters around here, just waiting to catch them and turn them in...
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He leaves 'em lay, that isn't legal in alot of places, did he use a tag on them? or did he just keep shootin, come on, why defend the idiots?
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Yup,they make us all look like a bunch of turds.I dont trust beef or pork.I eat all that i kill.and i only kill what im going to eat.Those programs for starving poor people dont make any sence to me eather.If they are going to get some veni. then let them come allong to gut and drag them.Old folks and disabled not included.They can fillet my walleys and crapies all summer too.
But seriously,If youre a head hunter,I got no respect for you. |
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Now, you can't say head hunter is bad, because even though I take atleast 2 does a year, I could consider myself a head hunter, I look for bucks with big racks, just don't get to shoot them. I take the deer I shoot, eat em, don't leave em lay, so what does that mean? I say that kid is just a scum bag poacher, period, thats the way I view it.
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Dude,im not saying shooting deer with big racks is a bad thing.If you get em fair and square ill even help you drag em.But man,it eats me up when people kill animals and just take the horns.In that case ill sit on a stump and watch you have a heart attack while i practice my bird calls.
Im saying if you kill that deer,show a little respect for it and eat him. |
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ORIGINAL: BowHunterFett Now, you can't say head hunter is bad The head hunters I’m referring to are the ones that take the head and leave the carcass behind to spoil. They can get charged for this around here... |
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Idiots like this give all hunters a bad image. Wasting deer is almost unforgiveable. After I fill my freezer, I won't take another deer unless I have someone lined up to take it. I just added 2 or 3 people to my list in the past few days. There's also the FHFH program available that allows you to just frop off the deer and it's butchered and donated at no cost to you. He may not be violating games laws (depending on the state), but he should be.
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our group of guys that hunt together (6 of us) have taken 12 deer this year. 7 of them are in our freezers, and the other 5 were given to a friend we have that doesnt hunt but will take all the deer meat he can stuff into his freezer because he eats it every night.
does this make me a bad hunter for killing deer for a friend who doesnt hunt? i mean im using my tags to fill his freezer. i get to enjoy the hunt, he enjoys the meat. PS-im having deer burgers tonight and i cant wait |
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I think he can give them to nursing homes, and food kitchens. unless he just a killer.
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Up untill this year Ive been able to buy 4 or 5 or even more deer tags, mostly for does.The DNR, the state, and the insurance companies made a big fuss about getting does killed, even threatened at one point to goto a couple years of doe only tags if the population wasnt contolled.
We got a lot of families in the area without a lot of extra money, we got a lot of old timers that like deer but arent able to hunt them anymore.Even farmers that like to eat deer but are busy with field work during the hunting season and cant get out to shoot one.I give deer every year to different people in these situations, in return I am doing what the state wants done and even gain access to a lot of hunting ground by doing so.Theres even a program set up by the state to donate extra deer to be processed for the less fortuate to eat.Im not really seeing how any of this would be considered wasting deer. Leaving them to rot is wanton waste in most states as far as I can tell, its illegal and unethical.Hard to prove however unless you see them do it and have a carcass.Contact the DNR, tell em what the kid told you, maybe they can catch him doing it, but thats about all you can do. |
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i cant decide what to think about the kid giving deer away. i have to ask two questions to figure that out.
1. did he tag em and then give em away 2. or did he just shoot em and give em away so no one would find out. and as far as leaving the deer to rot. that is just a waste of meat and he is just gonna ruin the hunting for everyother honest hunter out there. people like this should never be allowed to hunt any animal ever again. |
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i agree it is absolutely rediculous...i know a kid who has killed 26 deer this year...he claims the guy told him to kill anything on the land...i dont know though, that sounds a bit crazy.
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the only time i've felt OK with letting a deer lay after killing it was when a guy shot a small 75-80lbs doe this year on opening day. when he went to field dress it he discovered the entire back and rump of the deer was rotten. it was infected from an injury (most likely an arrow or early muzzle loader shot) and the hair and hide was nearly all gone in that area, exposed meat, pus coming out of the wound and the smell was horrendous. some people may not, but i agree in leaving the deer and not messing with it only to find most of the meat rotten. its hard to say where the infection had spread in the body, but i too would have left it for the foxes and vultures.
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just a bit more info...
this same kid works for my dad in the fields during combining. he has shot deer without permision on our property several times. But we cant really turn him in because he and his dad work for us. He also hunts in the deer eradication zone and thats where he shoots them and leves them lay. He now is forbiden to shot any deer on our property. This same kid goes all over without permission shooting every deer he sees. The local landoners are just too nice to do anything. |
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ORIGINAL: maddawg0517 the only time i've felt OK with letting a deer lay after killing it was when a guy shot a small 75-80lbs doe this year on opening day. when he went to field dress it he discovered the entire back and rump of the deer was rotten. it was infected from an injury (most likely an arrow or early muzzle loader shot) and the hair and hide was nearly all gone in that area, exposed meat, pus coming out of the wound and the smell was horrendous. some people may not, but i agree in leaving the deer and not messing with it only to find most of the meat rotten. its hard to say where the infection had spread in the body, but i too would have left it for the foxes and vultures. |
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I would have to say that he isnt a very ethical person, just killing to kill and take the horns. I would turn him in for stupid crap like that.
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Oh man, it is disgusting.I was walking around today and I found 2 does laying on the ground. The sick part about it was that all of the limbs were chopped off: legs, even the head. Plus to top it off the meat was wasted, I was beyond pissed off because this is not very far from where I hunt. I want to find out who did it so I can report them.
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This year in the area i was hunting there was so much shooting of deer and leaving them lay, they had to get like 5 more unmarked game wardens to try and stop it but there was still deer showing up all over just laying out in the feild easily where u can tell they were just shot to let lay, if they were even goin through the trouble to get the meat it wouldnt be as bad but when there are deer just laying around right off the roads its getting bad
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hate to change subject but can any one tell me how to find a day lease in tx thats kinda close to waco or in that area not got a lot of money an grandson an grandpa want to go hunting not looking good for grandpa for the next year was wanting to spend some good time with him if any one has any info for me plzs msg me or email me at [email protected] thanks
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Well, as rcw280 mentioned...if you want to see wasted deer just go to any registration station in a cwd eradication zone in wisconsin. The dnr has ditched any hint of ethics and morals when it comes to hunting now a days. It is absolutely disgusting to see deer piled up high in dumpsters and semi trailers waiting to be taken to the dump. It is such a waste. I know of a farmer in the mount horeb area who had personally 'slaughtered' over 30 deer 2 years ago off his combine while harvesting corn. And yes...by the dnr's standards, this was completely legal. My brothers, dad, uncle and I hunt 250 acres of land outside of Mount Horeb. in the last 3 years we've taken one deer stictly because we see the population declining so rapidly. Because we don't have deer in the freezer, we have seriously contemplating going to the registration station and waiting for some trigger happy bum to bring in a deer he plans on just throwing away and taking it not only for the meat, but to make a statement that throwing deer away is incredibly disrespectful, and definately not 'hunting'!!! Landowners and hunters need to speak out with not only words, but actions to let the Wisconsin dnr know they are not happy, and that their so called 'plan' to control cwd is not and will never work!!! Sorry, but now i'm all worked up!!
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What is worse,someone who shoots deer all year long and eats all of them,or someone who goes out 9 days a year and shoots everything to leave it lay?
To be honest with you,I would rather know the guy who eats them.I dont care if he hunts his own land all year long.Call him a poacher if you want but hes not wasting them and i respect that. Now someone shooting just to kill,or just for horns,and leave the rest to rot.Im sure carma will let you know when its payback time!!! |
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ORIGINAL: furgitter What is worse,someone who shoots deer all year long and eats all of them,or someone who goes out 9 days a year and shoots everything to leave it lay? To be honest with you,I would rather know the guy who eats them.I dont care if he hunts his own land all year long.Call him a poacher if you want but hes not wasting them and i respect that. Now someone shooting just to kill,or just for horns,and leave the rest to rot.Im sure carma will let you know when its payback time!!! |
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