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CamoCop 11-25-2006 04:41 AM

.25-06 under rated?
 
why do so many people knock the .25-06? they refer to it as a "childs gun", "woman's gun", "toy gun", "starter gun", etc. are we as americans so hung up on over doing everything or trying to do something "better" that we naturally go straight to the "magnum" calibers?

i'm not trying to start fights or arguements, just wondering why we tend to overdo some things (i'm guilty of this myself). below i provided a link to centerfire rifle information. it gives information on the basic calibers and the game that can be harvested with them at different range. hope ya'll find this as interesting as i did.

http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.25-06remington.html





Mastevt 11-25-2006 04:48 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
That's my caliber, and I love it, don't know why anyone would want to shoot whitetail with anything bigger! I use the Rem. Corlock, (sorry for spelling) in 120grn.and it is more than sufficiant!

CamoCop 11-25-2006 04:52 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
i just bought a T/C Encore Prohunter in this caliber. after seeing my father shoot this caliber for approximately 20 years, i realized he may be on to something. why beat the hell outta my shoulder shooting a .300 Wby Mag. when a more pleasant shooting rifle will get the job done just as quick.

Grasshopper13 11-25-2006 06:38 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
My father has this caliber. It's deadly on whitetailand antelope. It's flat shooting as well. The only drawback I see to it, is it's lack of a variety of bullet weights. It's also really just for deer sized game. I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to kill an elk with it.

GH

CamoCop 11-25-2006 06:56 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
i agree with lack of bullet (grain) arguement but with it being a .25 caliber, you don't wanna over do the projectile. if you do, you sacrafice the speed and trajectory...which is what makes the .25-06 so good.

CamoCop 11-25-2006 06:59 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
i've also always been one in believing shot placement is what counts. back in the day, people (President Roosevelt) use to hunt elephants with a .30-06. if someone mentioned they do that on here...they would be laughed off the web.

JimPic 11-25-2006 08:18 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I love those quarter-bores.I had a Rem M700 in 25-06 and a Ruger No.1 in .257Roberts--wish I still had them.My brother always hunted with big-bores like 45-70,350mags and the deer I killed with the 25's where just as dead as the ones he killed.

JagMagMan 11-25-2006 08:34 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I wouldn't say that the .25's are "under-rated." They are excellent! They suffer from "under-exposure" The .243 has a good following for the lighter side , and today, there is the "bigger-is-better" craze! The 25-06, .257R, .260, and .264 WM have been lost in the middle! Any of these are great deer cartridges, they just don't get the exposure needed to win the "Oscar's!"

skeeter 7MM 11-25-2006 09:17 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
Love the 25-06 it has much more going for it than the popular .243(:eek:). I planon building a .257 caliber deer rifle, just haven't deceided the chambering - go with the plain 2506, AI or .257 weatherby.

Duxnbux 11-26-2006 12:17 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I had always wanted a .25-06 and finally got one last fall in the Ruger MKII. Shot a doe and 200lb buck with it and both fell in their tracks. It now gets more time in the fieldthan my .270.

Chantecler111 11-26-2006 12:42 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
The 25-06 is great cartridge for deer and varmints, very little recoil, doesn't have excessive muzzle blast.

Gpoop 11-26-2006 07:33 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
My friends think 270's aren't deer guns and they are for kids. They all made fun of me and they called me stupid cause I shoot deer with a 130 grain bullets. MY friends is all about "the bigger the gun the better!" I tell him it doesn't matter what you shoot with as long as you hit the vitals.

mistahmojoryan 11-26-2006 08:00 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
Never heard anything bad about the 25-06 myself. On a Canadian forum I asked for deer rifle suggestions (something to go along with my 300WM) the 25-06 was the most recommended. I'll admit that it surprised me a bit but I've been looking at one for a deer/coyote rifle ever since.

If you can do it with the respected .270Win/130gr combo you should be able to do it with a 25-06/120gr combo. Plus, you get lighter bullets for varmints and predators. That sounds pretty good to me! ;)

CamoCop 11-26-2006 09:49 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
i can't wait for mine to come in so i can go shoot it. it should have been in last friday, so i'm hope'n it'll be in tomorrow.

Steve F.in MD 11-26-2006 02:19 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I use a .25-06 and have never had to shoot a deer more than once since I started using that caliber. It would be hard to beat imo.

Chantecler111 11-26-2006 02:26 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 

ORIGINAL: Gpoop

My friends think 270's aren't deer guns and they are for kids. They all made fun of me and they called me stupid cause I shoot deer with a 130 grain bullets. MY friends is all about "the bigger the gun the better!" I tell him it doesn't matter what you shoot with as long as you hit the vitals.
Ok, do this for me, take your friend to the range and ask him to bring his "SuperDuper Magnum" and you bring your little ole' bitty .270, and see who shoots better, I'm willing to bet you win that one.

royak 11-26-2006 04:33 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I sure do love mine

cmkibler 11-27-2006 06:48 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
My dad hunted with a 30-06 all his life but just recently went with a 7mm-08. I always wanted a 25-06 but I believe I'm going to buy a 7mm-08 barrell for my Encore.

CamoCop 11-28-2006 11:09 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
mine come in yesterday so i went to the range to shoot it. after i got it sighted in, i only have 2 words to describe it...."tack driver"! i was shooting 3/4" groups at 100 yards. this has to be one of the sweetest shooting rifles i have ever shot. if anyone is reading this and considering buying one, DO IT! you won't regret it. once again, mine is the Thompson Center Encore "Pro Hunter"-Stainless Steel-Realtree Hardwoods Camo Stock-.25-06 caliber Heavy Barrell. i did purchase a Pentax Light Seeker Scope for it while i was down there. the scope is working flawlessly.

Hunter06FlKy 11-28-2006 01:37 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 

ORIGINAL: Grasshopper13

My father has this caliber. It's deadly on whitetailand antelope. It's flat shooting as well. The only drawback I see to it, is it's lack of a variety of bullet weights. It's also really just for deer sized game. I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to kill an elk with it.

GH
thats what made me move up to a 30-06. i really like a 25-06 but it just seems a bit limited. with my 06 i can hunt just about anything i want. plust with the 125 grain bullets the 30-06 shoots pretty danged flat.

Garminator 11-28-2006 02:35 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
Recently my buddy (shoots a 270 win) went hunting in sw Texas and he said that the boys down there swear by the 25-06. Never shot one but only heard good things about it.

buck_hunter14 11-28-2006 02:37 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
my dad has a nice 25-06 and killed many!!!! deer!

BillyMack 11-28-2006 03:30 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I was actually looking for a 25-06 when I got my 270 last year. My "gun guy" didn't have any in at the time so..... It came highly recommended from my cousin who is kinda a gun freak. Yeah, he has the $$ for the toys. [:@]

I still would like to have one though. :D BTW, BOTH of the deer I've shot this year w/ my 270 have went 40 yds MAX after impact. That's w/ a 130 grn Hornady. I'm sure the 25-06 will give VERY similar results.

Todd1700 11-28-2006 03:51 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I have one in a Tikka and love it. Absolutely hot death on whitetails. I shoot the 117 gr hornady interlock out of mine.

Ed McDonald 11-28-2006 05:17 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I bought a NEF 25-06 to shoot does with Crop Damage Permits . It does the trick with 130 grain Core-Lokt bullets ! :eek:

North Texan 11-28-2006 07:35 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
The .25-06 is an excellent cartridge. I'd be lost without mine. It shoots nice and flat, bucks wind well, and since I handload, I can load down to 75 gr. v-max bullets (that shoot very fast and very accurately, I might add;)), to Accubonds, Partitions, and the likes up to 120 grains.

I would have no problems using my 25-06 on elk-sized game if given the opportunity.

SRBowman 11-28-2006 07:52 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I have a Winchester ADL 25-06 and that is my favorite gun out of the 4 deer rifles I have! Flat shooting,super fast, and pack a good punch without to much damage done to the deer! I recomend it!

tschaef 11-28-2006 08:22 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 

why do so many people knock the .25-06?
I'll admit that I haven't read this entire thread, but I'm not sure what the quote above is based on. I joined HuntingNet in 2000 and have only heard good things about the 25-06, I don't think that I have ever read a derogatory statement about the round (except maybe if someone asked if it was a good round for moose). I'd love to try one out, but the only one I have ever seen up here was being put away at sundown by an out of towner so I've never had the plreasure.

kingofspring 11-28-2006 09:37 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
Who knocks the 25-06? Well, besides the magnum manly crowd who think a whitetail should be missing most of its shoulders to be truly dead?

Chantecler111 11-28-2006 09:39 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 

ORIGINAL: kingofspring

Who knocks the 25-06? Well, besides the magnum manly crowd who think a whitetail should be missing most of its shoulders to be truly dead?
Yeah, you have your foot in your mouth.:DMore magnum stereotypes displayed by uninformed shooters.

North Texan 11-28-2006 09:44 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
I know somebody thatknocksthe 25-06. Of course, thethey also think .30 caliber is the absolute minimum for deer.:D

CamoCop 11-28-2006 10:38 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
i USE to shoot a magnum, now it will be sitting in the closet most of the time. my .25-06 has got me spoiled! i'll keep the magnum in case i ever get the oppertunity to hunt a moose or grizzly:eek::D

Chantecler111 11-28-2006 10:59 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 

ORIGINAL: CamoCop

i USE to shoot a magnum, now it will be sitting in the closet most of the time. my .25-06 has got me spoiled! i'll keep the magnum in case i ever get the oppertunity to hunt a moose or grizzly:eek::D
Alright, youguys win,I give up.:(

kingofspring 11-29-2006 11:55 AM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
How do I have my foot in my mouth? And what is your reasoning for implying I am "uninformed"?
Sorry if I struck a nerve, but the woods are full of guys lugging around way more rifle than they can handle. If a .416 Rigby is your gun of choice for whitetail, great. If you're one of the crowd that thinks .300 minmag is the minimum cartridge for whitetail, then you are uninformed. If not, then I wasn't referring to you.
P.S. Besides 25 yrs of whitetail hunting, 11 yrs of handloading cartridges ranging from .204 Ruger up through .300 wby, and shooting somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 rounds/year, how much more experience do I need to become one of the elite "informed"?

ORIGINAL: Chantecler111


ORIGINAL: kingofspring

Who knocks the 25-06? Well, besides the magnum manly crowd who think a whitetail should be missing most of its shoulders to be truly dead?
Yeah, you have your foot in your mouth.:DMore magnum stereotypes displayed by uninformed shooters.

Chantecler111 11-29-2006 01:16 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: kingofspring

How do I have my foot in my mouth? And what is your reasoning for implying I am "uninformed"?
Sorry if I struck a nerve, but the woods are full of guys lugging around way more rifle than they can handle. If a .416 Rigby is your gun of choice for whitetail, great. If you're one of the crowd that thinks .300 minmag is the minimum cartridge for whitetail, then you are uninformed. If not, then I wasn't referring to you.
P.S. Besides 25 yrs of whitetail hunting, 11 yrs of handloading cartridges ranging from .204 Ruger up through .300 wby, and shooting somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 rounds/year, how much more experience do I need to become one of the elite "informed"?

ORIGINAL: Chantecler111


ORIGINAL: kingofspring

Who knocks the 25-06? Well, besides the magnum manly crowd who think a whitetail should be missing most of its shoulders to be truly dead?
Yeah, you have your foot in your mouth.:DMore magnum stereotypes displayed by uninformed shooters.
[/quote
I would think with that much "experience" you wouldn't make such a rash and condemning statement, you even say you reloaded for the .300 WBY, so you can't really say to much about people that prefer to hunt with a .300 Magnum. I think a guy can take whatever cartridge he wants into the deer field, as long as he can shoot it, and I also see that you have to put up how many rounds you shoot a year, 1500 isn't all that great, considering I shoot upwards of 10,000. But, it was just a statement that you made to sound like you know what you are doing. We all make them when backed into a corner.:D

kingofspring 11-29-2006 09:36 PM

RE: .25-06 under rated?
 
If the question is who shoots more, you win, hands down. You obviously shoot enough to know your weapon, and shoot it well. I'll write this slowly, since you didn't catch it the first time... I... wasn't... referring... to... you. There are plenty of good reasons one might choose a magnum rifle to hunt with, but there are plenty of people who can't handle one but use one anyway. I love to hear some dude tell me all about how flat his ultra mag shoots out to 500 yds, and in the same breath tell me he's still shootingout of the original box of ammo he bought for it.Does a guy like that have any business shooting 500 yds, or 300 for that matter? You know as well as I do the woods are full of these yuckos, and they give a fellow like yourself that puts inyour time at the range a bad name. I didn't throw up the number 1500 to impress you, just to give you anidea of my experience level so you don't confuse me with the "two shots the week before season, to make sure she's still on" guys.[quote]ORIGINAL: Chantecler111


ORIGINAL: kingofspring

How do I have my foot in my mouth? And what is your reasoning for implying I am "uninformed"?
Sorry if I struck a nerve, but the woods are full of guys lugging around way more rifle than they can handle. If a .416 Rigby is your gun of choice for whitetail, great. If you're one of the crowd that thinks .300 minmag is the minimum cartridge for whitetail, then you are uninformed. If not, then I wasn't referring to you.
P.S. Besides 25 yrs of whitetail hunting, 11 yrs of handloading cartridges ranging from .204 Ruger up through .300 wby, and shooting somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 rounds/year, how much more experience do I need to become one of the elite "informed"?

ORIGINAL: Chantecler111


ORIGINAL: kingofspring

Who knocks the 25-06? Well, besides the magnum manly crowd who think a whitetail should be missing most of its shoulders to be truly dead?
Yeah, you have your foot in your mouth.:DMore magnum stereotypes displayed by uninformed shooters.
[/quote
I would think with that much "experience" you wouldn't make such a rash and condemning statement, you even say you reloaded for the .300 WBY, so you can't really say to much about people that prefer to hunt with a .300 Magnum. I think a guy can take whatever cartridge he wants into the deer field, as long as he can shoot it, and I also see that you have to put up how many rounds you shoot a year, 1500 isn't all that great, considering I shoot upwards of 10,000. But, it was just a statement that you made to sound like you know what you are doing. We all make them when backed into a corner.:D


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