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NYB ...others just do not understand our friendship LOL

dd

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Wow, I just read all 21 pages again thanks to HardCoreHunter:Dwhile waiting for everyone to get up on this fine Christmas morning. And to think, this is only my 2nd reply on this thread:D:D. Think we'll get another 20 pages out of it?[&:]:D:D. Merry Christmas everyone.

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Rick I dont know why YOUR up so early ...Santa aint coming to see YOU after digging THIS old post up LOL

dd

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Wow...I can't believe I missed this the first time, I need to get out more. Iskipped from page 6 all the way to the end now I'm gonna go pop some popcorn and grab a Coke, I'll be right back to read the whole thing!

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Tough Luck DR. DUD. Maybe you should go after big bucks like real hunters do.......or you can keep paying for them. Were you really crying about walking a mile to stand in the snow? LMAO!! I though you were a legend?

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LMAO.Your right DD but he comes to see me all year. I didn't bring this back up to start another round of bashing. This was fed off of another thread. Let the bashing cease. If you have nothing constructive to say then say nothing.

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LOL Rick "Said the spider to the fly" ...I seemy old buddy HCH is reading this thread ...Im SURE he will want to put in HIS two cents worth ...come on HCH ..give me YOUR best shot ole buddy ...My shoulders are broad and I care bare this cross:D

dd

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WOOOOOW!! Just stumbled on this thread, good read. Some serious, some funny s$%t. Sure adds truth to the adage " some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

Dr. D, personally, I think you're getting to much crap over the thread, but with that said,
l'll make a couple of observations.

1. Who are we to attack some one with " why would you want to spend money......yada yada. To each his own. Your money, do what you want with it.

2. Made big mistake after the first day not going in " nude " then changing at the stand.

3. U should have followed your instincts and DEMANDED to hunt the way your gut said, { new stand location } if allowed by law. 4500+ $$ gives you that say so.

4. Way to much back and forth with other posters. Sure to bring on the negativity, but in IMHO, you handled it with class.

5. Your right about width when scoring racks. Why should a rack be credited with air, and deducted for irregular?

Frankly, I have a hard time imagining an outfitter conducting business the way this one did, with repeat clients, provided you were respectful to him and not an A$$. Not doubting your truthfullnes, just difficult to imagine.

CROKIT

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Crokit thank you for your post ....anyone that reads the entire thred and was objective would have to come to the same conclusion you did ...in retrospect I suppose we (Glen and I) could have handled some things differently ...when we first arrived we were trated like family seeing as how this was our third trip ...but as the week went one Glen and I both were becoming less and less satisfied with the effort of our outfitter ...Glen is an attorney from North Carolina and about mid weekhe made his dissatisfaction known in no uncertain terms which may have set the tone for the rest of the hunt ..and in all honesty I said a few things to the outfitter myself such as wanting to move ...not seeing any game or fresh tracks ...so I am sure the outfitter was not real happy with us which may be partially the reason for the lack of effort we got ..so I think we may be to blame is a small way BUT that does not excuse the outiffter from not trying to get us in a better situation IMHO...

dd

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2ndday on the stand and you start shooting a decoy????????? How does an outfitter take care of such a client??
I have been on 7 Canadian bear hunts. On three of the hunts I have sat from 3 pm till dark(8:30 pm) 5 solid days in a row, motionless with black flies and mosquito's swarming my head net(before I learned about the thermacell) and never even saw a bear. That is why they call it hunting and not shooting. As an experienced hunter, Iaccept the fact that the game may not offer me a shot or that I may never see the game. To me that is one ofthe thrills about hunting; the unknown.I sure as a hell am not going to whine to my bear guide or get on a public forum and whine about not seeing a bear. Sniveling is not attractive on a grown man. I have a buddy that used to guide city slicker guys on Montana wilderness elk hunts. He quit guiding because of whiney clients like your type. TIGER, maybe video game hunts, like Cabelas big game hunts, would provide more pleasure for you.[8D]

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i have sat sunup to sundown for 11 days IN A ROW and not seen ANYTHING...UNguided!!!!
[:-]

guess i got a bargain!

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Thank you Daniel Boone .... WOW 7 times to Canada huh ...Im suprised your wife gave you the moneyAND akitchen pass to be gone that long :D

dd

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LMAO...she goes with me Doctor Gomer.

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Some how HCH THAT does NOT suprise me ..when your spending HER money LOL.....I think the term politly put is PWd ...:D

dd

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Yeah thas a bunch of BS. You paid your hard earned money to this guy and he did nothing to help. Thats BS. Hopefully you can find a better outfitter to hunt with next time.

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LOL She would be welcome to go with me as well..lol. :D

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hey DD, i re-read this entire thread (over an hours worth of reading)....lol. how is the "civil" issue going? are you and Glen still pursuing this? keep me posted, on here or by pm/e mail.

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C.C. the Outfitter offered us $1000.00 per as a refund ...Glen turned him down so I did to ...it wasent the money but the principal ...he obviously knew he was wrong by offering us a partial refund ....but thats been months ago and I just wrote it off as a lesson learned ...you know whats funny about this thread is that when I first posted it over a year ago I was not looking for others approval or pitty ...I posted it so others might learn from it ..not to make the same costly mistakes as we did .... funny how it got twisted.

dd

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I also just re-read your initial post. Sounds to me like your lazy tail is po'd because you finally put in a little work, and werent' rewarded with a treat. So you had to walk a little ways to your stand in a little snow, big deal. You didn't see 30 deer a day? Guess what, them's the breaks! Sure it sucks you didn't get a deer. But you are not headed to Timberghost Ranch, this is not a guarantee.

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Ok James V ...just so you know your OFF my Christmas card list for next year hoss ...

dd

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It is politely not politly, surprise, not suprise; like I have told you in the past, work on your spelling, it makes you look ignorant. Money is the root of all evil; that is why I am married to a poor girl and she is married to a poor guy. We work for our fun, trips, and bikes. We are not some whiny yuppy that goes on $4500 deer hunts and gets on a forum and cries and snivels.

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NOW you done it HCH ..... thats 15 yards for piling on



dd

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I have read most of this post but not all of it. But it seems reading between the lines my conclusion is you got screwed by the outfitter as many others do. They just one the fast dollar for little effort.

I am from Alberta and have outfitters in the area where my land is. I see them on a daily bases in the area it seems. I have had, run ins with one of them. He doesnt care if he trespasses, his hunters dont get picked up sometimes until an hour after dark when legal shooting is over 1/2 hr after sunset???? He gets mad when he sees hunters ongovt land and even got on my case when I was on govt land.

I talked to one of his hunters from the USAwhen I came upon him on my land. I heard some good stories from him ( hunted with this outfitter for 3 years and said it was his last.) I brought ther hunter to one of my plots with a heated blindand said hunt here and only 150 or better or dont shoot lol.Well Jim(hunter) shot when I was at another plot about 1/2 mile away. I went back which was about one hour from the time I left him. He greeted me and was all smiles. He said he seen 5 bucks before he shot. I asked him where it was and he hadnt gone to it yet, he was still shaking. I walked with him and he took a 188 buck.

The outfitter was mad I found out because the hunter moved and I caught him lol. Where he had the hunter was where the deer dont even funnel much.The outfitter was lucky I didnt lay charges against him for putting a hunter on my land. Of course the outfitter is still around and hasnt changed much. His day will come.lol.

My advise is to get a reference of your outfitter and better yet find out the area your hunting. Ask him for a county map and call the locals in the area. Get the name and do a 411 search on internet. They will be happy to tell you their thoughs.

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I recently went on a bear hunt in Alberta, near Peace River, and there was so much game it was amazing. That being said the actual Outfitter did an amazing amount of leg work, driving for hours glassing properties and trying to find the best places to take his clients. The guides, on the other hand, had sections, some great, some not so great, but some were very good and some were not. Some guys worked thier butts off for their clients and some "drove the truck". The guy that did the bear hunts and I ran bear baits for 9 days. Up at 6 am until 1 or 2 and then I went to stand after eating and a shower, after hunting, we'd eat and BS til 1 am. I spent all of my times with the guides and outfitter, choosing not to spend too much time with the clients, I am a poor man and really had to work to pay for this hunt. I would do it again in a skinny minute.
DD I hate to hear that you had a crappy time, I hope to never spend that much money and have that kind of experience.

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Thank you N.C ...we live and learn ..or at least some of us do ....

dd

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Nuff said??!!

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Wow is all I can say! I can't believe this thread is back!!

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ME EITHERWTD ..IM NOTTHE ONE WHO DUG IT UP ..BUT IT GIVES SOME A FEW MORE CHANCES TO THROW DARTS AT THE GOOD DOCTOR ...

DD

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I'm really having a hard time figuring out why you had such a bad time this go around and not the previous three times with the same outfitter? The only conclusion I can derive is that it would be because you didn't shoot a deer on this particular hunt.

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WELL JIMMY IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT AFTER OVER 20 PAGES THEN YOU NEVER WILL ....AND BY THE WAY IT WAS TWO TIMES PREVIOUSLY NOT THREE ...THIS HUNT WAS THE THIRD ....MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU TO BUDDY OR DID SOMEONE LICK THE STRIPE OUT OF YOUR CANDY CAIN ? BEAM ME UP SCOTTY ......

DD

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Wow, I'm impressed. YouACTUALLY managed to sit in a stand for 5 1/2 hours EVERY day, for 5 SOLID days? I'm sure THAT was rough! ROTFLMAO

Yeah, your a real "hardcorehunter" alright. LMAO

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Yea, even with blackflies and mosquitos eating me, I remained motionless and I wasn't once tempted to shoot an arrow at a Krispy Kreme donut at the bait site. LMAO!!

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Edit; Never mind. DD, you brought it upon yourself torun yourmouth in another thread I have in the off season,where I state thatI am tired of Harleys and want to buy a new custom prostreet chopper. Youattack my views on custom scoots with 300 mm rear tires, my knowledge on what bikes are worth,and I am not much of a guy to take crap off of a guy that is ignorant on a subject. I could sit here all night and pick you apart withyour spelling(99% of every postyou make are spelled wrong), andyour views on outfitters and hunting, but I won't stoop anymore toyour level of personal attacks. I have owned harleys for years and have the desire for a custom chopper; you on other hand are new as a harley owner and think they are the only way(Not to mention you are employed by Harley).
DD,we are obviously at different levels in our lives with our hunting and our tastes for bikes.You rifle hunt onlyand I only bowhunt. You have different expectations from an outfitted hunt than I do. Hey, whatever makes your sticker peck out. If we all liked the same things, it would be a boring world. Life is too short for such nonsense.

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Not many in Alberta or Saskatchewan.

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Hi DD, Where in Alberta were you hunting?In the NW Alberta [Grand Praire region ]there was close to an 80% die off RE: accumulated 9' snow fall and spring tick infestations.Got this from a warden while looking for a bull moose this fall.We saw 4 moose in a week of hunting[no bulls]compared to the year before seeing 20. Fields that had over 100 deer in them at dusk had 1 or 2. Completely wiped out.The elk were not effected and my son shot a 3pt meat bull at 400 yards with his 25-06.Not making excuses for the outfitter but this is how weather and nature can effect hunting.I went on a 14 day guided hunt in the Yukon in 94 and I was teamed up with a "guide" who was also from Alberta and had never set foot in the Yukon before and we were sent into an area the outfitter had never hunted before.I found all this sh-t out later.My guide was scared of bears and was later fired when he wouldn't let a German hunter shoot a big boar!I live and hunt in Alberta but have witnessed first hand both good and bad outfitters in action.............Sorry things went badly but chalk it up to experiance...........Harold

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I think you have a twin double d in the bow forum, lol

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YADAYADAYADAYADA ......YOU MUST BE ON CRACK HCH ....IF I HAVE TOLD YOU ONCE I HAVE TOLD YOU 20 TIMES I HAVE BEEN RIDING A MOTORCYCLE SINCE YOU WERE CRAPPING YELLOW ...AND A HARLEY FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS AND YOU SAY THATS NEW TO HARLEY??? BOY YOU AINT SEEN THE BALL SINCE THE KICK-OFF..YOU SAY THAT YOU KNOW THE MARKET BECAUSE YOU WATCH EBAY LOL...THATS LIKE HAVING STEVIE WONDER READ A ROAD MAP TO YOU...I GET PAID TO KNOW THE MARKET HOSS.... YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO OUT TYPE ME AND OUT SPELL ME BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MOTORCYCLES YOU DONT KNOW CHIT FROM SHINOLLA...I CAME TO THAT OBVIOUS CONCLUSION READING YOUR THREAD ...ANYONE WHO LOOSES $25000.00 ON TWO HARLEYS (AND IT WOULD HAVEBEEN MORE IF YOU HAD NOT LIED TOONE OF THE BUYERS BY NOT TELLING HIM THAT ONE HAD BEEN TOTALEDAND REBUILT) ...IN MY HUMBLE OPINION DONT HAVE A CLUE OFABOUT THE MARKET OF HARLEY'S NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU RUN OFF AT THE MOUTH....RAY CHARLES COULD HAVE SOLD TWO HARLEYS AND NOT LOST THAT MUCH ....I INVITE ANYONE TO GO TO YOUR THREAD (OFF SEASON) AND READ IT

dd

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THANK YOU HAROLD ...I WAS HUNTING IN AREA 508 AND THE OUTFITTER WAS DON TYSCHUK....

dd

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SOB double D you help me make it through these long nights of 3rd shift and for that I thank you.:)

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ANYTHING TO ENTERTAIN MY FRIENDS FRALEY ...ITS JUST THE KIND OF GUY I AM :D

dd