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Yesterday we saw a deer carcass thrown in a creek--obviously hidden. It had a slug hole through it and was skinned with the legs cut off. Every part was there except the backstraps. The guy shot the deer and threw out everything except the backstraps. Is this legal? Why would someone do this? It seems like a complete waste to me. What are your thoughts?

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Was it in season or not? If its in season and the deer is registered, then I guess someone can do with it what they will. Doesn't make it right though. In Wis. they have a state program where you can donate the deer and its processed for food pantries. It's very popular. But, if its out of season, then it can't be registered and can't be donated. What a waste.

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I belive in if it was in season, it's still illegal for wasting eatable meat. That disgusts me [:'(]

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I believe Konaboy is right, I heard somewhere that you have to take all edible meat, no wasting. More than likely it was a poacher.I have heard numerous times about poachers shooting a deerand just cutting out the backstraps real quick and getting out of there. Did you see a tag on the deer?

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We have this problem every year. At one time last fall there was one creek that probably had 8 whole deer in it. At some of the country road turnoffs there would be 5 or 6.

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The game laws call this action Wanton Waste it is Ilegal in most states.

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Regardless of wanton waste, atleast here in IL you cannot just dump acarcus along a road or into public water ways.

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Dont quote me on this but because of new laws it says you have to make the effort to harvest the deer meaning you take everything that is ediable so you can leave bones hide but you must take the meat this is completly unethical and unsportsman like.

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Thats nothing i know some farmers that shoot em year around and leave em laying ,crop damage permits,and when they start having to many dead ones in the field they start gut shooting them so they run out of the field then die..There land ,there crops cant do nothin bout it either.

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Laws are different pending on where you are. Where I live in sothern NY, if you own the propertyit's perfectly legal to shoot a deer, fill out the tag and then just walk away. This of course isn't legal on state land as you are only allowed to leave the entrails. Once you get the body to your own property though you could just dump it.

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In some states, it is illegal to waste any edible meat and in others, you can just leave it where it died. I believe it is unethical to willingly waste deer meat. Every year, I try to line up several people who will take any deer I take after my freezer is full. I won't shoot a deer if I don't have room in my freezer and no one lined up to accept it.

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Many Horn hunters where I live just take the horns and leave the critter lay. Its not legal here but they do it anyway.[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]

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It depends on the state regulations in which the animal was harvested. Here in Ky I have reported a similar issue before and they said that "if they had checked the deer in and that is all that they wanted then it was legal. SAD I may try and contact someone to try and get a law like Colorado.

If a person harvestd an animal and does not remove all edible meat or just removes trophy parts then it is like a 10,000 dollar fine and a felony. If you wish to trophy hunt that is fine but realize that there are hungry and needy people in this world who would love to have some venison.

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So do I but how do they enforce such laws? How about the rib cage? I never utilize meat from the rib cage. How much of the neck must be utilized? How about organ meat like heart, liver and kidneys? How about the foreleg? I can't believe they actually say any edible meat. I believe everybody wastes some. Some waste more than others but who is to say what meat is worth extracting and what isn't?

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Wanton waste as described in this post is illegal in Indiana , if you don't want the carcass all you have to do is call the local sheriff's office and they'll pick it up for a food bank .

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i know someone has found a couple yearlings strung up in the woods near my house, with just the back straps taken out.

the only time i would consider that would be like a car accident in the summer, when its too hot to hang and butcher it over a day or two.

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In most states the farmers cannot touchthe deerafter he shoots them. A man has to protect his property wether outsiders like it or not. Been there and had to do that. We had the GWwritealetter so we could take them to FHFH. He is a really understanding guyand helped us out.

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It was found on a public WMA in MN.I know it's illegal to wantonly waste useable portions of the meat here. There was no tag or anything on it. The head may have been missing, but I can't remember. I could see where the deer had been shot and some fresh tracks and blood. There were hunters all over the place and it could've been anyone. They could've given the meat away. That seems totally unethical and wasteful to me. Hunters like that should be punished. I thought about taking the meat or hide but decided not to because the meat looked bad and I didn't wanna mess with the hide.Don't you need the deer to register it?

Another time we were by the woods I hunt. In the ditch was a deer carcass and the antlers were cut off of the head. The meat was totally gone from the bones like something had eaten it but it was really fresh. This made me angry too. It might not have been as bad as the other but for some reason it brought out my rage. What do you guys think? Was it a car hit or what?

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It sounds like someone shot it and either started to process it but gave up or let it hang to long until the meat went bad. I don't think they were just looking for the backstraps. If they were, why did they skin it and cut the legs off? I would have to say that the lazyness set in after they got the deer home. Either way..it was a terrible waste.

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Here is the blurb from Iowa regs:

Retrieval and Waste of Game

While taking or attempting to take game or

furbearing animals, you cannot abandon the injured

animal without making a reasonable effort to retrieve it

from the field. You cannot leave a usable portion of the

game or furbearing animal in the field. “Usable portion”

in this instance means the following: 1) for game, that

part of an animal that is customarily processed for

consumption; and 2) for furbearing animals, the fur or

hide of the animal.

I would guess that it is fairly standard for most states.

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The weird thing that I forgot to mention was that the deer was not gutted out yet. That's howI know he was only after the backstraps. The meat was pretty fresh, not spoiled yet. The only reason it looked bad to me was because it was thrown in the creek and was covered in mud and stuff. Like I said I could see where the deer was shot only a short ways a way. It had to have been from that morning. I got there at around 10:00.

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One gray area in this whole thingregards deer that cannot be recovered in time to save meat. I've had times where either myself, or another hunter has fatally wounded a deer, and we end up not finding it until the meat has spoiled.

Coyotes are a big problem here, and typically we move the carcass to a dedicated portion of the property out of the way from typical hunting areas. Unfortunately we are forced to not take advantage of the harvest. However, that happens sometimes despite the best intentions and effort.

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I agree, that has happened to me as well. That wouldn't explain the missing back straps.