What happend to the black talon bullets? Do they even make them anymore?

The name was changed to failsafe.

but are they the same bullet, I heard the black talons would punch a hole in a deer. Guy i talked to said he used to shoot them.

My reloaded some for a buddie of mine in 30-06 and I have seen there work on deer and caribou and they are a deep penetrating bullet. I wanted to load some for my 338win

Th eBlack Talon/Failsafe bulles are designed for slow expansion and deep penetration for big , heavy game. They will kill a whitetail but are not the best bullet for the choice. A better choice would be a Nosler Partition or a bullet of similar design. I'm a huge fan of Barnes X bullets, especially the newer TSX line but they are only available by handloading or buying custom loads as far as I know.

i use 180 gr. ballistic tip custom loads for my wby .300 mag.