SEEING AND HEARING CROWS, NOT SEEING DEER
 

HAS ANYONE NOW OR IN THE PAST HAD A PROBLEM WITH ALOT OF CROWS MAKING THE NOISE THEY MAKE, AND IN RETURN NOT SEEING MANY OR NO DEER WHILE HUNTING?

MY SPOT WAS HOT FOR 4 YEARS, THEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR THE CROWS ARE ALLOVER AND WE ARE SEEING LESS OR NO DEER AT ALL.

CAN THE CROWS MAKING ALL THE NOISE THEY DO SCARE THE DEER FROM A AREA THAT WAS ONCE HOT?

RE: SEEING AND HEARING CROWS, NOT SEEING DEER
 

My uncle has had this happen to him. He thinks they are warning other animals of danger and giving him away. I think he is nuts, but he has had the same problem as you.

Starrman

Ron Starr

RE: SEEING AND HEARING CROWS, NOT SEEING DEER
 

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY!!!! I THOUGHT THAT ALSO, BUT WHATS THE DANGER, I KNOW THEY DONT SEE ME, AT TIMES THEY LAND IN THE TREE IM IN, OR TREES NEARBY. ALSO I HEAR THEM FAR AWAY, THEN THEY FLY OVER TO MY AREA, DO THERE THING, FLY OFF, COME BACK. ITS JUST BEEN THE LAST 2 YEARS, OUT OF THE 6 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN HUNTING THIS AREA.

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Thats funny. My uncle thinks that the crows will see you and then make as much racket crowing away as they can. Crows are protected in MN I think, otherwise my uncle would be shooting them left and right. He is pretty superstious though. I am glad I have not had that problem!

Starrman

Ron Starr

RE: SEEING AND HEARING CROWS, NOT SEEING DEER
 

I'm with starrmans uncle. I've had trouble with crows for about three years now. Its legal to hunt them in ny on fri. sat. sun. mon. I believe they do warn the other animals in the woods of danger. They may be just making the noise to warn there own but if the other animals hear it they probably know to stay away. they are a smart bird. I've also noticed if they're next to me making alot of noise I won't see deer that day.

Yes, the usually flock in a group of 5. There are usually 4 cawing and flying around. This doesn't necessarily alert deer. But the 5th crow that is hiding that you didn't know was there. Cause it wasn't making a sound or crowing around with the other crows. Is the the watchmen crow. Once it spots anything that abnormal it alerts the other crows and then all 5 crows fly off alerting everything else in the woods that something there that doesn't belong. If deer see generally will not travel to the direction the crows were flying from. Crows are the alarm system of the wild outdoors.
if you can wait it out for the next hr to 4 hrs the animal life will get back to moving but that doesn't mean your gonna see a deer anytime soon.

crow fuss at anything, hawks owls, coyotes, foxes, bear just name it. maybe predators are your problem.

Some photos from yesterday out in the George Washington National Forest, along Route 42 by Elliott Knob in Augusta Co, Virginia...
It's just like the gist of this entire thread:

N-O-T-H-I-N-G... :confused: :s14:
(well, I mean... I did see a big, mama doe, running for her life at like Mach IV, white tail flapping behind her. But nonetheless,.... nothing!)

Me with my Savage .308 rifle, taking a "selfie" before the 2 mile hike up the mountain trail.


One of the main trails leading up to Elliott Knob. It's peaceful and quiet out in the GWNF, and you feel like you have all 1.8 million acres to yourself!


All settled in. I actually got down on my hand and knees, and hunkered down under a cedar tree with the sun at my back, so a deer would get blinded trying to find me.

Good luck Butch. Hope ya get a big one.

Thanks.... I'll go back out, but not way out to the far side of the GWNF. I chatted with a few guys (local VA deer hunting group on Facebook)... I trust these guys, as they won't tell tall tales to hide their secret "honey hole" as the saying goes. That whole massive ridge along Route 42 produced hardly any "mast" for deer, due to the wicked drought all summer. Acorns shriveled up and died on the branch. Sad... :s7:

Other areas along the Blue Ridge Pkwy, Skyline Drive, etc...are better off, as the deer population ventured that way in search of food. But, guys were saying, that everyone learned of it, and that eastern section of the GWNF is crowded on weekends. I'll head out there during the week and see what I can see.

Well good luck and get a buck. Our season started off slow this year (we usually have warmer weather in the beginning). Towards the last week and half of the season, the rut started to kick in. I got both of my bucks and the butcher told me he got very busy during the last week of the season.

CalHunter Bocajnala

Check it out... Everyone (all the HNI veterans from back in the day)... Check it out too!

Look close at that photo of me along Route 42 before I headed into the woods (Post #8 above). Look what I'm wearing for a blaze orange hat! Yup... My wife Margaret and I found it in the closet rack a few weeks ago. She washed it in plain odorless detergent, and we hung it out to dry naturally. Still fits great, and still looks great, after all these years! :D:s3:

Hey, cool hat!

- jake

Thanks.... Remember way back in the day when the original owners of HNI sold hats? I don't know if the new Admin/Owners kept up with it though.

They don't even respond to messages or requests from us.

I'm fairly confident they don't care about hats lol.

Wish it never sold

....Sad. :s14:

Crows raise he!! with everything, not just deer. It could be a fox, coyote, hawk, owl or any number of things. Same with squirrels and Bluejays.

I have an HNI t shirt that was given to me by Justin one of the original owners when the site was great. Through the years I often had that shirt on when I killed a deer or elk. l always figured it was a lucky t-shirt. It is getting pretty ragged now but I still wear it once in a while when hunting.

That's great Champlain Islander !!! I remember when Justin ran this site. It was incredible back then. T-shirts, hats, etc... all sorts of things to help offset the website bills. Today, it's owned by a totally different company who (most likely) doesn't even hunt, nor care about it. ...Sad.

Congrats on the bucks Cal. Here in this state we are only allowed 1 buck per year. I filled my tag on a very healthy looking 153 pound dressed 6 point on public land on the first day of our rifle season. I am waiting for our ML season to start on next Saturday to fill a doe tag that I have in my pocket.

Hey Cal , whats the matter with you ? You know better than this ! Dont ya remember the rules ?

" Pics Or It Didn't Happen ! " :D :) :D

This site makes posting pics difficult at least for me. I used to be able to and now there always seems to be an issue like file too big or some other contrived excuse. I got sick of trying.

C ! its really not hard to do . Its easy if you have a photo or Vid storage site . But I dont use one of those since Photobucket got taken over and became a robber . Now I just post them from my desktop comp. Yes it seems if I take pics with my regular camera they always seem the file is too big . I download the pics off the SD card into my Pictures file then riight click on the pic I want to post and open it in " Paint " . On the top left there is a " Resize " button that you can do it 2 ways. One by picking a size bu percent or do it by pixels . I always use pixels . My camera takes pics a 5155 pixels . I reduce that to 1000 . Then hit the X on the top right of the page to exit. Them I get a popup that asks if I want to save the changes . Click yes and I'm done. Sounds like a long process but realistically its only 10-15 seconds from start to finish.

I dont bother posting pics directly from my phone like so many guys do . It must be even easier than what I do because everyone is doing it . I Thought You Were A Tech Guy !!! :D

Lol I was a tech guy waaaay back in the day. Telecom high tech was teletype which then morphed into analog data feeding a controller to multi point CRT terminals and low speed printers. Cell service was only a dream and mobile phone was actually a radio feeding a phone head with the signal going through a base station hence the need for a 2nd class radio license. After my mentor retired I was the only outside tech to hold the license. Some toll guys worked the microwaves also held the license. I transitioned into Management and got away from the tech end in the mid 80s. I actually liked installing and repairing equipment better than managing people but my path was forged.

Cool hat.Wish they were still available.