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DoctorDeath 02-07-2006 04:16 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 

ORIGINAL: timbercruiser

If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
Well lets just for a minuite ASSuME that Jimmy thought (duh) that he was on a 1200 acre piece of high fenced porperty ...and lets ASSuME that he had no earthly ideahe was in a shooting pen ... if that is the case I would also have to ASSuME that he did no scouting for himselflike a good hunter would do because had he done that he would have had to stumble over the other fences there.... unless he climbed right inside the gate ;)and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !

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Champlain Islander 02-07-2006 04:54 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 
A nice letter with damage control as a major focus. He knew it wasn't an ethical hunt but did it anyway. I feel sorry for him because this will haunt him and reduce his TV public appeal. Trying to spin his way out of this mess only makes it worse. When you are a celebrity or public figure one bad move can ruin your reputation. I wish all states and provinces would outlaw canned hunts. In addition, I hope all businesses selling advertising from these operations would take the high road and not do business with them.

chickenjohn42 02-07-2006 04:58 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 

ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath


ORIGINAL: timbercruiser

If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
Well lets just for a minuite ASSuME that Jimmy thought (duh) that he was on a 1200 acre piece of high fenced porperty ...and lets ASSuME that he had no earthly ideahe was in a shooting pen ... if that is the case I would also have to ASSuME that he did no scouting for himselflike a good hunter would do because had he done that he would have had to stumble over the other fences there.... unless he climbed right inside the gate ;)and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !

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I do not want to start word war ,that't not my thing ,I have watched a lot of huntingwith and high fence hunt's and never sawa hunter do any scouting ,the guide say's get in the blind and we will pick you up later.[&:][&:]

DoctorDeath 02-07-2006 05:00 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 

ORIGINAL: chickenjohn42


ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath


ORIGINAL: timbercruiser

If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
Well lets just for a minuite ASSuME that Jimmy thought (duh) that he was on a 1200 acre piece of high fenced porperty ...and lets ASSuME that he had no earthly ideahe was in a shooting pen ... if that is the case I would also have to ASSuME that he did no scouting for himselflike a good hunter would do because had he done that he would have had to stumble over the other fences there.... unless he climbed right inside the gate ;)and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !

dd

dd
I do not want to start word war ,that't not my thing ,I have watched a lot of huntingwith and high fence hunt's and never sawa hunter do any scouting ,the guide say's get in the blind and we will pick you up later.[&:][&:]
He wasent in a blind but atreestand bow hunting ...

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Oneshot7 02-07-2006 05:50 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 
ncie point DD i never saw it like that

huntnma 02-07-2006 06:07 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 
like i replied to him.......i still feel he is full of it and the only reason i think he made a statement was cause he got caught...but i also know God does everything for a reason, hopefully he'll become an advocate for fairchase hunting...this is his oppurtunity to do right by the animals we love.

Oneshot7 02-07-2006 06:14 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 

ORIGINAL: huntnma

like i replied to him.......i still feel he is full of it and the only reason i think he made a statement was cause he got caught...but i also know God does everything for a reason, hopefully he'll become an advocate for fairchase hunting...this is his oppurtunity to do right by the animals we love.
exactly

North Texan 02-07-2006 06:43 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 
There's always two sides to every story. He has as much right to state his side as NWF, or annonymous internet posters for that matter, have to bash him.

I noticed a few comments about not scouting in high fenced hunts where a guide's services were rendered. Doesn't that happen in low fenced areas as well? Isn't that why you have a guide, because he's already done the leg work for you. I don't know how many have used guides, I haven't, but I would if I were hunting another state in unfamiliar terrain. That's what they are there for. I hope to one day hunt an elk in the Rockies, and if I ever get that chance, I'll probably have a guide.

DoctorDeath 02-07-2006 06:50 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 

ORIGINAL: North Texan

There's always two sides to every story. He has as much right to state his side as NWF, or annonymous internet posters for that matter, have to bash him.

I noticed a few comments about not scouting in high fenced hunts where a guide's services were rendered. Doesn't that happen in low fenced areas as well? Isn't that why you have a guide, because he's already done the leg work for you. I don't know how many have used guides, I haven't, but I would if I were hunting another state in unfamiliar terrain. That's what they are there for. I hope to one day hunt an elk in the Rockies, and if I ever get that chance, I'll probably have a guide.
N.T. your right ... a lot of time when you hunt in another state or country you will use a guide and hope he has done his homework ...BUT if I had paid as much as J.H. most likely paid for this hunt ... and was going to the trouble to pay a camera man to film ...and if I was bowhunting ...I would HAVE to have the guide show me WHY I was going to hunt THIS paticular piece of the woods and why this tree ..maybe its just me but if I were going to invest the time and money I would take an hour or so to get an idea what type of terrain I would be hunting even if I was using a guide .. on the other hand if I knew I was hunting in a 3X6 pin and knew the deer HAD to come by me sooner or later during the day I guess a scouting trip would not be needed ...expecally if it was a GUARANTEED hunt ...why scout?

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Jack Ryan 02-07-2006 07:28 PM

RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
 

ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter

I asked Kyle to get me the numbers of those who sent e-mails and I would call them. I called every number he gave me on Friday, February 3. Naturally several of the numbers were probably PETA affiliated, some were not available or didn't answer, but I did get to talk to eight or ten actual hunters. I didn't ask these guys to alter their opinion or their passion. I simply wanted them to know the facts from me.
I'd like to know how he could tell over the telephone which ones were "real" hunters when he sure as heck couldn't tell one from a criminal when they were handing him coffee across the fence at "half time".

"Jimmy" are the real hunters the ones hunting $10000 deer inside Bellar's pen or just the one seeing hundreds of deer in four hours from a single stand?

For a guy who just now figuring out how sorry you are about all this you sure figure out quick who the REAL hunters are over the telephone.


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