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bigcountry...what a wonderful world it would be if everyone had your attitude. Just let everyone go around and do whatever they wanted. Hey it's not your job to care what someone else does. Meanwhile the guy down the street is dishing outdrugs to our children but hey it's not your problem. We sure don't want these fine citizens to get in trouble. Or what about the kid who goes to school bruised up every day from being beat by an abusive parent. I bet ol' dad is a great guy too and we sure don't want him to have to get in trouble either. Yep lets just look the other way and everything will be just fine.

Southern Buck...if your family member robbed bank the money wouldn't go to waste either but he would still be a thief. The fact is he is stealing. If you think that's alright that's your prerogative I guess.

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So let me understand this correctly Kybuckoo, Everytime you see a violation on any law breaker you turn them in? Its a good thing I don't hunt with your barney fife attitude. Citizens arrest, citizens arrest.
At what point do you look the other way? I'm sure you've always been honest in your tax preperations too.

Bobby

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There's a difference between someone selling drugs or killing someone than it is seeing someone throw a gum wrapper on the ground. If you can't see the difference then there's a problem.

I think we have way too many people willing to look the other way on crimes that aren't petty. If I see a drunk driver I can't look the other way knowing they could kill someone. If I did I'm as much to blame as the drunk.

If you are a thief, drug dealer, murderer, rapist, etc..then yes I will turn you in and I wouldn't want you hunting with me either. No human alive is perfect and everyone will do things that are wrong but common sense should tell us when someone should be punished or pay for their crimes. Why is is hard to believe that someone wants to do the right thing. I as a parent want the world to be a better place for my kids and I'm not willing to look the other way.

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Oh yea, I can see the difference. But is there a difference on deer? Who am I to decide? But bottom line there's nothing worse than the tattletail kid in school. I think one is doing an injustice to thier children showing them to pay more attention to others than thier own problems.That applies to grownups as yourself. I noticed when I lived in Ky, alot of people like to get into others business. Well thats an understatement. I love my sister in law to death. Would do anything for me. Good person. But man, she has such trouble on minding her own business. Always a busy body looking into others lives. When honestly, definately has problems of her own.

I don't know if you are a Godly man. If you are. Matt 7:3-5 is a good one. Also Matt 5:22 is another one basically saying who are we to make the decision of what offense is worse. And if you not. Well take a look anyway.

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Nice to see that some attitudes have mellowed in regard to what constitutes serious F&G "crimes."

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What are F&G crimes?

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Technically, any violation of F&G laws and regulations.

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Never hear of F&G. I am assuming you mean Field and game? Every state is different. Some are called NR. Never hear of F&G.

I know your not talking about me mellowing. Friendship is much more important than a deer. But if I don't care or know someone, it changes things alot.

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Pretty much took the words outta my mouth.

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bigcountry...just because you have a noisy sister in law doesn't mean everyone in the state is like her. You can make generalized statements about any group but that shows ignorance on your part.

As far as the bible passages, you can take about any passage out of context and make it say what you want. So you think no one on earth should judge anyone else? Should we just have a world where corruption and lawlessness goes unchecked?

Talking to your buddy may be all that's need to change his ways? If so great, but you have the attitude that as long as he's you buddy then he should be immunedfrom any consequences. Maybe you can help them more by showing him the right way rather than protecting him. Could it be that your doing the same things that you say your "friends" doing. Just what would it take for you to turn them in?

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In regards tomellowing; In earlier threads,somefolks(I'm not going to point fingers at specific people)werearguing pretty stronglythat any violation of regs (tresspassing comes to mind) constitutes poaching and is wrong. Yet, it now turns out that some folks have a lot of reasons for why they wouldn't turn people in for many of thoseinfractions. I just find that interesting.

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Oh, and to clarify, F&G (Fish and Game) is commonly used by many states in reference to both wildlifedepartments and regulations.

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I don't believe those passages are taken out context. Take a good look at MacArther Study bible (one of the most accepted explanations). I don't know how anybody could take "take the plank out of your own eye before pointing out the speck in you brothers", out of context. It is one of the most straight forward passages there is. In other words, how do you take these passages? Do you have another explanation for them?

We have law of the land and law enforcement take care of these folks. You get into what is called the "moral" argument. Its not your job to inform law enforcement about your friend.

I think you kinda proved my point about being noisy and all. I mean you are the one who is a busybody? Correct?and I hope you don't take that as an insult. Just your the one who is making something your business. Correct?

I have a question for you. Do you teach your children in school to tattle on ever minor incident? Is this a practice you condone? I mean you using absolutes in comparing deer poaching to killing another human being? Is that logical?

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How far does that go?

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Exactly Charlie. So you believe we should be a country of absolutes?

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I'm asking you where do you draw the line. You wouldn't turn a friend in for dealing drugs if I understood correctly,when would you get involved?

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Oh ok, for my friends, hard telling Charlie. For my friend, it would take alot. I stack friendship and loyalty pretty high. I mean alot of this is common sense. If my friend was killing bald eagles, sure, he wouldn't be my friend much longer, and hence easy to "rat" him out.

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You'de turn your friend in for killing bald eagles but not for dealing drugs? Is that what your saying?

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You changed the question in the process of answering you back. For people I grew up with who are dealers, thats easy, I don't hang around them or that part of thier life to make it my business. Sure we still chat about hunting, or autos but not about that.

But again common sense should prevail.I can't use absolutes to compare dealing to poaching a deer.Hey, the guy asked opinions. He gotem.

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So I guess its a moot point. Because you are obviously for absolutes in life? Correct?

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No I just clarified what I meant.

That the easy way out. WWJD? Would he make it his buisness?

No, I don't believe in absloutes. It does interest me that you'de get involved with the killing of a bald eagle but not in the distribution of drugs. Which effects the community more.

You'de think it would.

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So are you saying Charlie you would turn in someone over any and all offenses no matterrelationship? Thats pretty well absolutes. I am probably jaded when it comes to drugs. They have always been around when I grew up in Ky. And its no secret to the police on who they are. I mean some of the police was involved with them years ago before the FBI finally after 10 years broke the ring up.You will be amazed on what you can get used too. So are you saying I should start my own sting ops to bringthese dealers to justice? Maybe call 911 when I see a car running less than 2 car lengths away from another? Call HR department when I see the admin with a company pen in her pocket going out the door? You have questioned me, I am curious of what you think?

I guess I am confused by your questioning? Are you taking a stand one way or another? Or just want to get to know me better? Or what?

Charlie as I have explained to you many times, Christians are not perfect. Some worse than nonbelievers. We all have our own cross to bear.

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Guess you didn't see this.

I like to know what makes folks tick.

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"So are you saying I should start my own sting ops to bringthese dealers to justice?" Dropping a dime could improve your community? Or it could save someones life.

"Maybe call 911 when I see a car running less than 2 car lengths away from another? " That's not against the law is it?


"Call HR department when I see the admin with a company pen in her pocket going out the door?" A company pen no, large items you might want to, if you want a place to work. I've had to fire people because of theft from restaurants whereI worked. For every steak stolen you have to sell three just to break even,why should the owner of a company loose what he worked for because of people stealing. Why should the other employees loose their jobs because people take what isn't theirs.


You have questioned me, I am curious of what you think?

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Perfect no but why try and twist bible verses into saying you shouldn't get involved?

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Its very hard to twist thatpassage Charlie. If he is not into the bible, then it doesn't matter to him and obviously not you. But if he is, well then he can listen up. He has to do what he feels. But obviously he is not sure, or he wouldnt' be putting a poll up. He wanted opinions, he got them. I know if I knew the answer to what I wanted I wouldn't waste the time to put a poll up.

So are you taking a stand on thispoll or what?

by the way, yes, tailgating is illegal. Firing emplyees is one thing. This man was referring to a friend, I believe.

I am just trying to find out where you are going with this. Are you agreeing with him or me, or just posting?

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bigcountry you must be a liberal.

Your right about Christians not being perfect. As long as you breath air on this earth you will always be a sinner. I am and so are you. I didn't get intothis to become a bible lesson. It started because I know a lot of guys that do nothing but complain about other people killing too many deer. They say that our telecheck system is to blame. I argue the point that if you know of violators then turn them in or stop complaining about it. If you don't stand up for whats right then who should?

You make it sound like only the government and the police should get involved in stopping crime. If your mother or child was being attacked wouldn't you want a good citizen to get involved or should they be passive and turn their head and not get involved? I'm not judging the sinner I'm judging the sin. Just keep on living your carefree life and it will all be OK as long as you don't have to get involved.

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Not at all. My mother getting attacked is a far cry to poaching a deer.

Actually, your the liberal, believe it or not. You believe in absolutes. Like the ACLU. The gray area I am in, is more conservative. The gray area is more common sense. Todays liberals like to police everyone, and live in this society that is closely monitored. No gray area

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"Firing emplyees is one thing" I've also let people I've known for along time go for stealing and would can a friend for it in a minute.

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A guy shoots a deer and doesn't tag it, I proably won't turn his butt in.

A bunch of guys going around spot lighting fields killing deer and selling the meat, I'd turn in.

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I am in agreement with ya Charlie. Thats a far cry from being a freewheeling lifestyle not getting involved.

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bigcountry you and your "absolutes" don't have a clue. Is that a word you learned on CNN? The gray you need is between your ears...some gray matter.

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Whats the deal Ky? I didn't go out of my way to insult you. Why start this now.

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You didn't? What about calling everyone who lives in Ky a noisy busy body.

Let's just say we disagree and leave it at that.

"You do your thing I'll do mine"

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I said "alot of people", not everybody. Shoot just about anybody that lives in eastern Ky will tell you thatneighbors are always in thier business. Nothing new. You have never heard this?

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boy these last couple of pages have been entertaining. So what was your point again bigcountry? Don't move to Kentucky unless you do drugs while shooting bald eagles and wondering whats going on over at your neighbors place?:D:D

Thanks Charlie for trying to "reign in" coherence


I kinda like Kentucky actually.

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Wow, hillybilly, thats pretty funny. You probably work at the comedy zone in charleston, don't ya.:D