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interesting question about farmers and deer, please respond....
Hey,
MY name is Brent and I live in Baltimore, MD. My question revolves around farmers and nuisane deer. Do you think it is possible to locate a farmer who has a nuisance population of deer and would like them removed. I heard from a friend that some farmers actually can get permits that allow them to kill deer anytime if they become a problem for their crops, is this true? He also told me that the farmer can pass on these rare hunting privelages/tasks to someone else, if suppose, the farmer doesnt hunt. How true does this seem you you fellas? From my point of view (a hunter) it seems to good to be true, but maybe from the farmers point of veiw, the deer are a real problem. Someone please shed some light on my question. |
RE: interesting question about farmers and deer, please respond....
No it is true. Where there are high numbers and there is crop damage farmers can get permits. I have hunted on these before also. They are for does only as far as I know. However I belive it would be hard for you to find a farmer that doesnt already have people willing to do this. I come from a farming family here on the Eastern shore and its hard to find a place.
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RE: interesting question about farmers and deer, please respond....
hey,
thanks alot. Yea i guess even if is true, it would be hard to find farms that arent already hunted to the fullest. It is true that these "hunters" can kill deer at any time? Do they have to be 'prefessional" or just any old hunter? Jeeez, i wish i could find me a nice farm, that would be ideal lol. |
RE: interesting question about farmers and deer, please respond....
ORIGINAL: geterdun It is true that these "hunters" can kill deer at any time? Do they have to be 'prefessional" or just any old hunter? |
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I have hunted some farms here in NW PA, and you don't have to be a professional or follow any other regulations than any other hunter does in the state. Except of course if the farmer has sme rules of his own. Farmers get tags called DMAP tags for deer crop damage. The farm I hunted this year has 1000 acres and the PGC issued him 25 DMAP tags. Hope this helps a little bit. And it is for does only.
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There is a tree farm/nursery near where I live and they were having problems with bucks rubbing their antlers on the small saplings and destroying them. They were able to get permits to try to thin down the number of deer doing the damage.
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RE: interesting question about farmers and deer, please respond....
If you want to help a farmer who has deer damage permits ask those who have orchards or nurseries/Christmas tree farms. ForOhio 1.)you have to be on the list of shooters, 2.)donate the meat, 3.)noshooting during regular deer season 4.)eithersex can be taken but antlers must be sawed off and give to the DNR.
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In a county close to where I live the farmers are really complaining about nusance deer. The government has started to give out additional seals to hunters but it doesn't seem to be enough. They want to shoot them themselves and they have theatened to do it no matter what the law says. I found a farm a little futher than the county with the deer problem but there is still way to many of them. He has amazing clover and alfalfa feilds so the deer flock. WE hunted it 2 weekends and I got a 5 point buck on the second day we were there. If you know someone, who knows someone or are just plain lucky it is possible to find places withtoo many deer. And when you do... you look farward to comming back before you've left. [/align] |
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yeah in maryland the farmer can apply for crop permits and if he has hunters willing to do it he can give the dnr the names of the shooters, Im on my land owners crop permit deal but wont shoot a doe in the summer months. imagine gutting a doe and a fawn falls out.....nah not for me. I got lucky and found a farmer that wants em dead, and he give me rights to hunt his land. I took 7 this yr. 2 bucks, and 5 doe, and let alot of em walk,yougot to keep the farmer happy! if ya let em all walk he thinks your just trophy hunting and isnt happy, which can result in no right to hunt land, deer cost farmers alot of money.just go around and knock on doors all they can do is say no and maybe youll get lucky and find one thats fed up. good luck
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I guess it varies by state. In SD we can contact the Game and fish people if we have problem deer. They can come and shoot them. However the landowner cannot legally shoot them himself. They can issue crop damage permits but the are for sale and its first come first serve.
I had two tage to fill this last weekend. My nieghbor called me and said to come and shoot a couple off hie haystacks. They climb all over the stacks and pee in the hay and then the cattle won't eat it. When I got there, there were 30 or so deer on or around the stacks. I shot two and the hunt was over in 30 seconds. That was no 7 and 8 for me this year. All Mulie does. I passed on a couple bucks as the doe need to be brought under control. I saw about 75 does saturday alone. They are darn big mule deer. |
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Do you have to saw the individual antlers off, or can you just "chunck-out" that part of the skull and send them into together...because I tried to make a set of rattleing antlers one time and WaHOOOAAAA its hard to exagerate how tuff those antlers are!!! I was a kid then and had always heard but haddent ever learned. BTW I fried (almost literally) a mason bit drilling holes to put string through.
Don't live in Ohio and aren't serious about trying to hunt nuisance deer, but if the state required me to deal with the actual antler material...I just might pass. |
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It's wide open in Connecticut.I have deer damage permits for my orchard. It must be regestered commerical. they are issued to a specific person and you can only get permits for one farm. Does, bucks Jan 1 to Nov 1. Jacklighting can also be requested. The State sends a biologist to verify damage and a GW to insure safe shooting lanes. NO BP allowed, rifle or bow are OK. By the way in my area the farmers hate deer, they are long legged rats to them. The meat, antlers etc are yours to do with same as any other deer taken in regular season, as in NO SALE. In fact I need to call for my 2006 permits today!!!
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Farmers dont give a **** if deer eat there crops..thats why they have insurence for..There not going to let you hunt..and we pay for them with our insurence beeing raised...I say they should drop them of coverage and let them eat the problem...Here in northwest indiana if you are not a family friend,married to or any relation to a farmer..Good luck there all stuck up and wont give you the time of day..But there the first to complaine of the problem...And if they do got people hunting there eather trophy hunting or they couldent hit the side of a barn at 10 feet...some of the people that come around suck so bad that they shouldent be hunting anyway...Know the hard working guy with kids that want a place to growup with your kids hunting and enjoying the out doors is hard to find if not emposible with out shelling out $$$$$$....Tax on farm land is so low its nuts like 50 to 100 dollors a arc...your house is in the thousands it nuts...the goverment helps these people so much there millonares...Dont let them bull**** you...JUST MY @ CENTS
Been asking to hunt for years and just gave it up 2 years ago..You can have it .... |
RE: interesting question about farmers and deer, please respond....
ORIGINAL: geterdun Hey, MY name is Brent and I live in Baltimore, MD. My question revolves around farmers and nuisane deer. Do you think it is possible to locate a farmer who has a nuisance population of deer and would like them removed. I heard from a friend that some farmers actually can get permits that allow them to kill deer anytime if they become a problem for their crops, is this true? He also told me that the farmer can pass on these rare hunting privelages/tasks to someone else, if suppose, the farmer doesnt hunt. How true does this seem you you fellas? From my point of view (a hunter) it seems to good to be true, but maybe from the farmers point of veiw, the deer are a real problem. Someone please shed some light on my question. |
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Obviously you don't farm or know anything about what it's like to be a farmer. Most don't have insurance to cover crop damage because if they did they would not be protesting and taking things to the govenment to control deer. If they do have insurance it is because they are the big time farmers that don't have anyother choice.
Taxes have to be lower because many of these farms are hundreds of acres. Houses are ussually on much smaller portions of land. If farmer's didn't get taxe breaks they would never be able to pay the taxes and be forced to sell the land. Not to many farmers I know are millionares. There must be a reason why they don't want you on their land. Would let let someone you don't know roam around with guns around your livestock and drive thought your hard planted crops? ORIGINAL: stanton21 Farmers dont give a **** if deer eat there crops..thats why they have insurence for..There not going to let you hunt..and we pay for them with our insurence beeing raised...I say they should drop them of coverage and let them eat the problem...Here in northwest indiana if you are not a family friend,married to or any relation to a farmer..Good luck there all stuck up and wont give you the time of day..But there the first to complaine of the problem...And if they do got people hunting there eather trophy hunting or they couldent hit the side of a barn at 10 feet...some of the people that come around suck so bad that they shouldent be hunting anyway...Know the hard working guy with kids that want a place to growup with your kids hunting and enjoying the out doors is hard to find if not emposible with out shelling out $$$$$$....Tax on farm land is so low its nuts like 50 to 100 dollors a arc...your house is in the thousands it nuts...the goverment helps these people so much there millonares...Dont let them bull**** you...JUST MY @ CENTS Been asking to hunt for years and just gave it up 2 years ago..You can have it .... |
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I was able to bow hunt a x-mas tree farm in Bennett Springs, Mo where all the bucks were tearing up his smaller pines. Great Hunting. And the farmer had tags that he used to tag them if we were lucky enough to get one.
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WOW i dident know that canada and the united states were the same in farm paratice?????This is america bud not canada.The day of the 100 acr.farm is in the past,,There big operations now of days..You must be a hobbie farmer???The goverment pays you to not farm so they can buy grain and other commodites from other countrys..The sun will be out soon for you...The dark must hurt your head..
I used to hunt lots of farms but the fighting and the other backstabing was to much,not worth the time to get in fights over jelouse people.. I will have my kids grow up with out that in there life but fishing and waterskiing is still free so that is what i do with them...When you have to pay to go fishing on a lake that well be the day....But that is not to far down the pipeline....Hey.. Kill a deer for me..Shoot it in the face.... |
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Not sure what type of permit ohbowguy is talking about but last year the farmers land that I hunt was bad last year in his beans. TheDNR came out and gave him six doe only tags. The DNR warned me because I was there, that the tags had to be used on the owners land and if I got caught using it on other land he would put the hurtin on me. The tags could be used by anyone but it had to be during legal season and with legal equipment. You did not have to donate the meat or any thing like that. He also said they will only give out doe tags since killing buck wont help the population that much. Their isa tree farm not far from my house that we get our christmas tree from every year and he has deer damage, when I asked him about it he to said that theDNR will only give him doe tags and told him to get more hunters for the bucks. I have Attached a photo of a tag that was not filled last year. hopefully it shows up ok. Just ask around and maybe you can find a spot like that, but most of the "honey holes" are probally taken.
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Really? Maby i'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure there are are some pretty darn huge farm operations here in canada.I am what you'd call a hobby farmer but we still work dam hard for our money. As for the govenment paying for us not to farm? Where did you hear that? You should thank the people that put food on the tables of people, American or Canadian. Obvously you don't understand so it isn't worth arguing any more. [/align] [blockquote] ORIGINAL: stanton21 WOW i dident know that canada and the united states were the same in farm paratice?????This is america bud not canada.The day of the 100 acr.farm is in the past,,There big operations now of days..You must be a hobbie farmer???The goverment pays you to not farm so they can buy grain and other commodites from other countrys..The sun will be out soon for you...The dark must hurt your head.. I used to hunt lots of farms but the fighting and the other backstabing was to much,not worth the time to get in fights over jelouse people.. I will have my kids grow up with out that in there life but fishing and waterskiing is still free so that is what i do with them...When you have to pay to go fishing on a lake that well be the day....But that is not to far down the pipeline....Hey.. Kill a deer for me..Shoot it in the face.... |
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