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is a 300 win mag to "big" of a deer/black bear rifle?

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No i dont think so. For bears it is perfect plenty of take down power on a bear. For deer you will be able to make long range shots with it and you should have no problem with a deer ever walking away after a shot from it.

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i shot a spike with one this year. last day of the season and i rushed a little and i was standing(yes im ashamed) hit it a little further back than wanted still managed to nip a lung. the deer stillfell like nothing ive ever heard or seen before. it was like one of those huge pines just crashed. another time i was hleping a buddy track a wounded deer it happened to pop up about 10 yds in front of me. it left a massive hole in the entry and exit. (2 fists out the exit :eek:) but that was the only time ive ever seen excessive damage from the 300 mag. so if u keep your shots outside ten yards i think you'll be good btw i use 180 corelokts.

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I have one, and hobie's right, they don't go far when hit with this one. shot a nice doe in kansas several years back at 250+ yds. dropped it it's tracks. I use 160 grain winchesters, zeroedin at 250, the only thing I don't like about the gun is it's bark, I have a muzzle break on mine, and It definetly makes your ears ring for a while. I'm looking at getting one of those game ears, that protect your ears during the shot. Other than that, it's a nice gun, and really reaches out there.

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Darn, between this thread, and the talk I've been hearing from the big game guys, the 300mag is a real sweet, versatile gun. I was checking some of them out at Gander Mountain a little while ago. My Visa card almost got a workout...

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deer don't go far with a hit from a 7mm. even more, they won't go far if you place your shot perfect. I know many of ppl that hunt deer with a .243 and most hav dropped in their tracks, right where they shot'em. either way, a 300 is a massive cannon gun. and I bet the shells are expensive, I know a box of 7mm are 20+ dollars for just a box of 20rnds. I wish I would have bought a 243, cheaper ammo, more fun to shoot and gets the job done. Using the best bullet for each gun, by best I am guessing the one that shoots the best out of all other brands/grains. A 7mm wby mag has a muzzle velo of 3070 and a muzzle energy of 3662.
300 mag, has a mv of 2905 and a me of 4122. But after 500 yards teh 7mm is still holding strong with Mz energy and the 300 has dropped drastically. either way, both will kill deer.

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I'd like to get a 300 short mag but I don't think any gun will ever replace my 7mm. She's sweet. and Like the plague.........deadly. As ted nugent said, the best type of gun for deer a a shotgun loaded with slugs. :D

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I have hunted with 300 win mag for 18 yrs now, as far as I am concerned there is no other caliber!!!

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I'd use it for deer. Especially the big Dakota whitetails. I know a lot of guys in western Canada use them. Super bear catridge.

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Well, if you want to spend the money on shells, go for it. I know I hate having to buy shells for my 7mm. It just makes my stomach turn everytime I go to the counter to pay. I really am thinking of getting me a 243 for next year. 10 dollars for a box of shells.

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Who buys ammo? Make your own! Reload!

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They won't run far when a 338 hits them either !

dd

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Hit'em in the head with a .17, Ibet they won't run far. But I wouldn't do that cuz its breaking the law.

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you guys are thinking too small and simple. Cannons, now we're talking. give me a battle ship and I'll launch every bomb that boat carries at one deer. I bet he won' trun far then.

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http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/37mm%20cannon.jpg

you can play around, but I'll use that.

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My interest in the 300mag is that it is, by all accounts, an excellent Elk/Bear gun that can double as a deer gun. But then again,I've heard good things about the 7MM mag as a versatile gun too. I have no experience with either, so I am happy to listen to what folks have to say.

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i use a wby .300 mag...the win mag don't hold a candle to the price of ammo to the wby. last box i bought was $52.00 a box....20 count

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great for bear but a bazooka for deer i would use something smaller but you can use the .300 why doesnt anyone ever use 30-30's anymore ya know the american classic the 30-30 has downed more deer than any other rifle ever will

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3030s, 243s all those "smaller" calibers, fend off hunters, now days everyone wants the biggest hardest kicking gun. Thats what I wanted, thats why I bought the 7mm. I bought it because of all the ballistic charts I seen on it verses other calibers. there is by far nothing wrong with the 3030, I would have taken mine this year but with my luck I would have seen a deer far off, 100 yards, and its open sites so I wouldn't have been able to hit the deer. the 243, my bro-in-law uses one and kills deer no problem. I love it, its plenty powerful for deer, hardly kicks and ammo is very cheap. Its fun to shoot. My 7mm, hits like a darn sledg hammer, thats one of the many reasons that attracted my attention to it. I like hard kciking guns, but when I am up in my stand, I wish it wouldn't kick so hard. if your going ot bear and elk hunt, than by all means go with a 7mm or 300. I don't know anything about either type of hunting, I am guessing maybe a 3006 would do too. I have a 7mm and there are no bad things about it other than the price of ammo. its very accurate. I can accuratly shoot golf ball size groups at 100 yards with it. I've never had a seconds problem with it what so ever. I've killed every deer with ease that I've shot at with it. the 300 I am sure has more knock down power but how much do you really need? Ppl hunt bear and elk with bows. I am just rambling...........sorry, its late and I have to take a dump. LOL.

Bear and elk, yes, 7mm or 300. Perfect. Deer 7mm or 300 will get the job done and then some. If yoru looking for a smaller caliber, look into the 243 or 270. I am thinking about getting a 243 for next year.

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If you think that the 7mmremmag is the biggest hardest kicking gun ,you havevery little experience.The 7mm remmag is actuallyvery moderate in recoil and is easily handled by most shooters.:)

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The 300 win mag is just fine for deer and bear. It is not required for either but if you can handle it....not to big either.

The 7mm rem mag is also a fine choice, as of late to the 3006 statusas an all arounder for most NA game that doesn't pack serious recoillike some of the otherbig guns.

Either gun will handle anything upto the big bears for the NA biggame hunter.

I have taken Deer, Moose and Elk with both the 300 and 7mm rem mag, honestly didn't notice any practical differences...both extremely effective choices if the shooter does his/her part. Pick the right bullet for the task and put it where it counts....;)

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EXACTLLY. It doesn't matter if its a 300 or a 7 or a 243, just bullet placement. Heck you can kill a deer with a .22 and most definalty a .17

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Buw ha ha ha ha. I didn't say it was the biggest. But it is big and does kick. I have loads of experience, I shoot cannons, homemade poop shooting guns, A1 tank cannons by hand pootie pootie pooo ha ha. Just like bows is the same with guns, there are no bad guns, just bad shooters. I have loads of experience at shooting guns. I started shooting a .22 at the age of five. Been shooting ever since, I know my guns, the basic ones anyway, I am a pretty big guy, I eat my potatoes and toss the weights around in teh gym twice a day 7 days aweek. When i say a gun kicks, it kicks, when I say something is heavy, its heavy, when I say the sun rises, it rises, when I say to the sun "set yo ass down and be dark", it gets dark real darn quick. You see my quotes of Chuck in my sig? Even Chuck does what the hell I say, and he's a bad mofo.

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You actually said.

If you really feel that the 7mmremmag is big and has a lot of recoil you should try some of the heavier magnums like the300ultramag,30-378,338ultramag,340wby,375h&h etc.If you were to do so you would realize that the 7mmremmag is actually very mild in comparison.I hunt with some small individuals that shoot the 7mmremmag and find it very manageable.

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hey stub, I bet those bullets are expensive for those aren't they? I'd like to have a large gun but some how I change my mind when its time to buy ammo.

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yea the .243 is great gun and cheaper to shoot but the original person who posted this wanted one for bear hunting and i dont thnk the .243 would be adequate and after this year i saw the buck i killed take two nosler ballistic tips from my 7mm mag to its lungs and after that i couldnt stand to think of the power degradance from my 7mm andtaking a chance in lettinga big buck get away

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so you shot a buck twice with a 7mm and it ran off? I would think the earth would crash into the moon before that would ever happen. You must have been aiming at its ear or tail LOL J/K. I've dropped deer deed right where they stand with mine. I've never had any problems, not even close what so ever with killing something with a 7mm. I had some pics on my computer before I had to format it AGAIN of a buck I shot and the 7mm left a golf ball size exit hole, this was at 95 yards. I may run into problems with the 243 though. I really want to get one for next year but I dont' know if anything could ever replace my good ole 7mm. She's put down many deer. All bucks to be exact LOL. Only 7 but I've only been hunting for 4 1/2 years too. LOL.

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Myself and my partners all handload which cuts the cost dramatically considering how much we shoot year round.
However seeing as how cost seems so important to you I have to ask,how many rounds do you fire practising every year?

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utmstudent! It appears you are trying to one argue about cost of ammo, most of the people you are arguing with on here are around 50 yrs old, hunted for 30-40 yrs, have money, either reload or really don't care about the cost of shells. Two, I am 48 and shoot almost every weekend, used all kinds of calibers and stayed with the 300 mag because of its versitility.The 30-30 is a 30 cal bullet and so is the 300. But with the 300 you can download for deer or upload for whatever animal you are going after.Does'nt really matter what caliber you use, if you can't place your shot it is unethical, dangerous and notfair to the animal. You do know that Chuck Norris is an actor and not real right?

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NO!!!!!!! he's real.

so just because you have money means you should spend it?? I have money, I am debating what I truck i am going to buy and I'm paying cash. Just because I have 100 bucks doesn't mean I want to spend all of it, I try to find ways to save money. One way is if a 243-cheaper to shoot gun will get the job done, for deer, then why shoot a bigger more expensive caliber? Common sense to me..........shoot the cheaper gun, if it gets the job done.



I've been preaching that for years pal, you ain't telling me anything, tell that crap to the ignorant ppl that think shooting a deer 1000 yards is ethical.

I don't care what cal you use or how much money you want to spend. Do what you will, I just stated what I thought.


thats not too smart. I guess you just have money to burn right?

I shoot each year, most of the time it only takes one shot, just to see if my gun is still holding a zero. I've had the same box of shells for 4 1/2 years. thats after a couple bucks and shooting before the season. Me and my cheap o scope and my 7mm do pretty well for one to two shots just to make sure the gun is still set. I don't have to waste a whole box of 30 dollar ammo just to see if I can hit a target. I have 3 inches high at 100 yards and thats all I need. No 400 yard shots for me. :)

Did you know that in 1957 Steven Hawkings was the first and only man to ever outsmart Chuck Norris? He learned his lesson LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

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So I guess that we can assume that you can put every singleshot throught the same hole,otherwise a single shot will not tell you if the gun is zeroed.Thatwould bean amazing gun and you musthave great shootingtalent for never practising.


No but unlike you,us mere mortals can't put every shot through the same hole so we have to practise to develop and maintain our shooting skills.Unlike you we have enough respect for the game that we hunt to make the extra effort to ensure that our gun is properly sighted in and to practise regularlyso that our skills are adequate to provide quick clean kills every time.I would rather "waste" that extra ammunition rather than see a wounded animal suffer.
Maybe you should think about your own ethics before telling other people what they do or do not need.Yourusername indicates that you are a student,hopefully you will eventually learn something.

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I went fishing and caught a big one, your replies answer all my questions.
You only shoot your gun 1 rd per year before going into the woods! I am glad you don't hunt around me. I shoot around 1200 rds a yr except for 2003 when I spent most of the timesouth of bagdad. I leave for Bagram Afganistan in may and hope to be back in time toget ready for the 2006 season. Shooting 1 rd per year does not make a person proficient with a weapon PRACTICE!

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no the buck didnt run off but i figured after two bullets it wouldnt go anywhere. a pic of the buck is under the post "what will he Score?" check it out. he still managed to run about 40 yds

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why practice something that your already good at? honestly answer me that question without being a smart ass. If I shoot my gun at its off the paper somehow then I'll tend to it like I should, but if its still 3 high at 100 yards, whats the point. I've never missed, I guess I should practice more. And practice is spelled with two "c"s.

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Ok ok, I'll play along. to the guy that started this thread, if your going to hunt bigger game than deer, then get a 300. Make sure, even though your proficient with the gun, haven't bumped the sights and know for a fact after one-two shots that its still sighted in, still buy about 300 bucks of ammo, because if you have 300 bucks, the only correct thing to do would be to blow it all and then shoot all day. making sure that your point of impact on the paper stays the same. Even after the first box of shells, keep on shooting because its only the right way to do things, the gun may mysteriously change over night, so the next day do the same thing.

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Taken from werriam webster


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practice[1,verb]practice[2,noun]

Main Entry: 1prac·tice
Variant(s): or prac·tise /'prak-t&s/
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): prac·ticed or prac·tised; prac·tic·ing or prac·tis·ing
Etymology: Middle English practisen, from Middle French practiser, from practique, pratique practice, noun, from Late Latin practice, from Greek praktikE, from feminine of praktikos
transitive senses

Even an immature know it all like you should know that practise can be spelled two ways.

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In America practice is spelled the correct way. Even Chuck Norris says so.

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I'm sorry I see your in Canada. See down here its spelled differently. We also don't drink pops, we drink cokes.

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Merriam webster,whom I quoted,is an American dictionary.

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ever try a redneck dictionary written by Chuck Norris?