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Well i got kicked off my bowhunting team for callin a guy a poacher cause in his trial cam pics there was a feeder. I personally consider hunting over bait or a feeder is poachin, just like fenced hunts. Now mods/adm. this post was not a way to get back or anything so dont get your panties in a bunch i was just seein who else felt the same way i do.

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That is a very touchy subject... I my self do not hunt over a feeder or bait.

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O boy, here we go....I think it is no different then planting a food plot...You attract deer inthat way right?
So why is putting up a feeder and hunting them that way any difffernt. Just my 2 cents.

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I am not hot on the idea of feeders. Food plots I would do but that is the max I would ever do. If it is legal in your state then it is legal to. We might not like it but it is legal. Now if it is illegeal to do then that is awhole different manner.

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I just dont like it and think its poaching because. They get used to the fact that theres food in this specific part of the world. Its easy to get to so hey why dont we keep going back (in a deers mind). Now for the hunter. You set up your trail cam you know deer come there basically every day so you hang a stand or get about 200 or 300 yards away with a rifle and BAM BAMBI IS DEAD! Now that is not considered hunting to me its the opposite "poaching".

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It isn't legal to bait here , but you can plant a food plot of any size or hunt over food scented lures . I've used food scented attractants for years , and just planted a small batch of oats out back , so I can't logically bash baiting . I haven't found them to be all that successful thouigh , about 50-50 I'd say . Good enough for a meat hunter like me , but it's never coaxed in a trophy buck .

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You keep using the word "poaching".The plain fact is that if it is legal to bait in your area it is "not poaching".If it is illegal than it is "poaching".The natural question then is-was the fellow that you called a poacher breaking any laws?I don't hunt over bait but I don't call anyone a poacher for hunting legally.

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I also don’t hunt over any feeder or bait. It’s illegal here. I don’t considered hunting over food plot that bad compared to using a feeder or block of salt. Baiting for deer is not hunting , but that’s my thoughts. To each his own.

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I don't belive in planting food plots, bait OR feeders!! CWD was first found in Colorado in a game farm, where animals were in close proximity to each other. Many cases of CWD have come from areas where there are game farms. I belive that food plots, feeders, or bait have the same effect. It concentrates deer and other anmals into aspecific area all of the time. Add the humid climates in the Eastern US, and you have a recipe for disaster in my opinion. Of course, being from a state with 90% public land, and not having the opportunity to bait, plant food plots, or put up feeders, I see things a lot differently than other people do. I also think that deer coming into farmers fields to eat the crops, etc, have LESS of an effect as far as disease spread is concerned, because deer are not confined into such a small area, and can spread out as they wish, not be forced into a specific spot on the map. So, I have no problem with hunting on farmland and such, providing the farm land is there for other reasons. Even if people leave parts of the original habitat for cover for wildlife, etc, it is ok with me, providing there is nothing specifically brought in that was not part of the original landscape.

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I think it it taking the easy way out. If you hunt a buck in an area where there are no crops, feeders, or bait, and you are smart or lucky enough to take him then you have accomplished a great feat. But, if you were to take the same buck under the above conditions: crops, bait, feeder then it would be much easier, besides the luck factor. It is illegal in VA to bait deer, but some states allow it. We can plant food plots though.

I think there is a fine line between food plots and bait piles or stations. First, planted crops can and do fail, period! Bait stations are dependent upon someone putting the food out. Most of the time it is there for a limited amount of time, so it feeds the deer herd on a limited basis. Mostly to draw them into a small area. Food plots on the other hand, generally feed the deer for a much longer period of time. So before and after the season the deer continue to reap the benefits. And, are not confined to a small area.

I know there are those of you that have a feeding system year-round, but it still draws deer to a small area. And, are the feeders set on a timer? If they are, that further conditions the deer to come to the feeders at a certain time or the feed will be consumed by other deer and wildlife.

Each to their own, if it is legal in your neck of the woods. I will be much more proud to shoot a deer under natural conditions, as apposed to baiting!

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Ethics is a touchy subject that will never be won/lost. If you ask me, this post would be better deleted. It is an argument that I've heard and read both sides of for years now.

Both sides have pros both sides have cons.

One thing that I really never see come up when this is talked about is the FACT that WE, MAN have destoried every inch of natural habitat in the US. So, if baiting and planting food plots helps make up for our destruction than I am for it. Yes we have set aside some land, replanted PINE PLANTATIONS and not forrests, but is this enough?

You say that baiting may cause deer to stay in one place blah this blah that....A deer can travel miles a night. And I have pics to prove this. Esp. during the rut.

I tell ya what.... why don't the baiters and non-baiters work together and plant more hardwoods and refill drained swamps, till under parking lots. Then we will have no need for baiting or food plots in my opinion. Cutting down a forrest that has food for deer only to replant pines. Is this good? I mean, I've never seen a deer eat pines. So does a corn pile make so much of a difference in actually giving the poor fellas something to eat?

Baiting deer is legal here in SC and I have hunted over bait piles my whole life. WIth that said, bait doesn't make that much different. I bet only about 1/4 of the deer I have shot were at a corn pile. Corn really isn't even that attractive to a deer if you look at the studies.

I tell ya. We all want to point fingers at the other guy. Calling a fellow hunter a poacher when he has done nothing that was legally wrong isn't a way to go. Hunters against hunters. WHy not just hand hunting over to PETA?[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]

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OH yeah something else. I bet you $100 that 99.9% of the people who are against it live in states that don't allow it. And vis verse.:)

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Your probably right...;) People who have never tried are usually the first to bash it...

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This has probably been hashed over more than any other subject on this board. I personally feel that ifa method of hunting islegal and you have no personal problems with it, then go ahead. To bait is to entice, lure or tempt. That would include not only feeders, but food plots, agriculture fields, sex scents, mineral licks, decoys and any thing else that fits the description. Lot of times it is the old argument "if you don't hunt the way I do then you aren't doing it right". I'm assuming you stand behind a tree barehanded and jump on the deer's back and break its neck. Otherwish you would be using weapons the deer doesn't have, therefore you wouldn't be hunting fair. The hunting community has enough problems with organizations like PETA. Don't drive a wedge in the hunting community. I personally don't know of any hunters that don't use something to improve their odds of killing a deer.

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Equating legal hunting with poaching is not very bright, to say the least! Poaching is a very serious label! Who appointed you the god of hunting? Are all people who hunt different than you do, poachers?
There are many things that others do that I may not agree with, but unless it is against the law, it is not poaching!
As hunters, and/or gun owners we have enough enemies! We don't need any pious, holier-than-thou, people starting trouble! Whether it's baiting, food plots, scents, dogs, guns vs. bows, or whatever, if its legal, there is no good reason to bash another hunters tactics!
We do need to police our own ranks, law breakers ARE poachers and need to be reported, and dealt with! But to holler "poaching" at perfectly legal hunters is absolutely WRONG!
The place to really discuss this is in your state wildlife hearings, or letters to law makers! It IS NOT stirring BS in public forums, where anti's canplay us, one against the other!

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Timber. Very well said.

But let me make it even better. You couldn't use a knife, you would have to take a slab of stone and carve and mold a spear out of it.

A. D.D.- do all of us a favor and take a few of your adirol's and look up poaching.

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See posts like this and all the others i didnt qoute say im bashing im not bashing i said i didnt wasn a argument. The only thing iv ever used are a bow a gun a grunt call and scen eleminator. I was asking who on this site thought baiting/feeders/canned hunts are wrong. Im going bye how i was raised and what i belive in. And trust me i will never use a feeder, bait, scents or whatever even if its illegal in my state and go somewere were it is legal and do it. I never have and never will thats how i am. Just like i think people dont need to use rifles that shoot out to 400 300 or even 200 yards. The longest shot iv taken on a deer was about 80 yards with my 12 gauge on a doe. I dont see a point on being able to that long of a range on animals. I like the challenge thats why i picked up bow hunting.

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Son it breaks my heart to read your post's, you leave yourself wide open to ridicule.Why don't you try to have a more open mind and see how the rest of the world live's ?just because you believe what you think it doesn't nessesarily make it right, think about what you are saying ..you don't like feeders...you don't like tv hunting show's ...you don't believe anyone should shoot at game 3/4/500 yds away and yet you say you shot a doe with your 12 ga at 80 yds, some might say that its risky shooting a slug gun at that distance , and you use a grunt call, isn't that a little unfair to the poor animal that comes to you in trust only to be killed for his trust ? Anti-bowhunters might tell you that its inhumane to stick a sharp object into an animal and wait for him to bleed to death and on and on.My point is that all methods of hunting can be dissected and shown in a bad light. you seem awfully young to use phrases like " never have and never will " maybe after you experience life a little longer you will learn to accept others for who they are, brother hunters, not your enemy !

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I like the way you put that usa!;):D

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Man, I wish I was young enough to still know everything.

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Well said USA!

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"I'm going by how I was raised and what I believe in". I think you just answered your own problem. If that is what you like as far as hunting, then great, go for it. Don't tell me or anybody else that if they don't hunt the way you do that they are poachers, you won't make many friends. Get a dictionary or talk to a game warden and find out the definition of poaching. I think you will find it is tresspassing or a way to cook an egg.

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Man, some seriously idiotic posts on this thread! :( It is sad that so many of you just lke the drama! [:'(][>:]

If it is legal where you hunt, than do it! I can't believe some would actually call it "poaching" when in fact the folks hunting this way are following the letter of the LAW! What in the heck are you people thinkin' by making these claims??? Of course, generally the blowhard that is snapping off all these cracks has NO IDEA what he's talking about becuase he has never tried tohunt deer with one of the mentioned hunting methods. I'll promise you in an area where these practices has been done for many, many years.... the deer are incredibly difficult to bag. Just don't think that it's a dinner bell and every monster buck in the country come tripping over themselves to get at some simple corn feeder. I for one respect many folks that go above and beyond to provide supplemental feeding programs and other extreme management methods.... these folks are generall a LOT more invloved and serious about the sport and it's animals.

Please give it a rest! [:o]

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No one really reads here all i asked for was who didnt like baiting,feeders,etc. and i do belive its poaching in my book i dont care what the dictionary definition is. Im going by what i belive in. And thats it.

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It was with a fully rifled slug barrel and with Lightfield Hybrid exp slugs Best slugs iv ever used. Il show the mushroom of it from the doe i shot if you want.

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Alright. Time to delet this post. Give it a rest. Its over, its done. Stick a fork in it.

USA...I couldn't have said it better myself.

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ADD- Please don't reply back to that. Just take it like a man and walk on.

TIMBER- No offense, b/c I agree with just about everything that you have written 100%, but come on man. Comparing shooting terriorist to deer. Please. You just opened up a major argument that is probably going to get a lot of feelings hurt. Just delet it man, you asked ADD his age. Well, be the bigger man and just do as I told him and walk away.

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???????????Shooting terrorist to deer??????????? I missed something there......

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Hunting is a personal experience filled with personal choices taking place in many areas with varying traditions and rules. The concept of "fair chase" is a noble one and something that is meant to be a unifying, governing force. The concept was not created as a test to divide ethical hunters.

One of the reasons why our wildlife and habitat conservation system works is because individual states regulate what goes on within that state. Can you imagine the train wreck that would occur if the same rules applied for all states regardless of traditions, the diverse species of game, and various habitats found in different regions? Deer hunting with a crossbows is legal in Ohio, but not in some other states. Baiting deer is legal in some states, yet frowned upon by hunters in other states. You can run bear and cougar with hounds in some western states, but only spot and stalk hunt in others. Steel shot, lead shot, plugged shotguns, expandable broadheads, inline muzzleloaders - the list goes on and on. The bottom line - we are too small of a group not to support each other. If you hunt, you belong to a fraternity. If a hunting method is legal in another state, but not in your state, crying foul won't help the bigger picture. If a way of hunting is under attack in another state, your way is under attack, even if you do not agree with or practice this method.

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You are basically saying that if someone doesn't hunt the same way you do, they are a poacher.

I do not use any calls while deer hunting.I do not think it is right to trick the animal like that. I do not care if anyone else uses them though.Heck, I may even try using them later in life. Since you hunt a different way then I do, you are a poacher.

Once you start to mature, you will learn to accept other peoples' ways of doing things. I do not think that baiting an animal is right, but I do not argue with others about it. I know in a few years I will be mature enough to understand why people do what they do.

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What is next?Are you going to call someone a poacher if they use calls,rattling antlers or if they sit in a treestand or a blind,or if they use dogs?I hunt the way that I choose and if I don't like someones method,I don't use it.I don't however call anyone a poacher for hunting legally.

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DITTO!

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No im not gona call someone a poacher when they use calls and rattlin antlers and that stuff. Just when they use bait, feeders, and do canned hunts.

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Everyone, let's not give him anymore posts! It's obvious he is a kid and feeds off of stirring the hunting population. He hasprobebly never hunted and is associated with aanti hunting organization.

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I'll be an idiot and throw my hat in the ring....

I'm not sure how someone using feeders is equal to canned hunts...my way of thinking a canned hunt is basically a 'pet' herd being 'hunted' and what not...

now I'm in Texas...feeders are legal. Food plots are too, but when the rain gets a bit scarce here, well...watering a food plot is an endeavor at times...the land owner i lease from has 50 acres of wheat sown for when he puts a few head of cattle there for the winter. I've watched does pass right bye one feeder and meander up the trail for the wheat. I've passed shots the last three years I've hunted (i've only hunted 5) cause they looked young or small rack or what not, and then seen one I've watched on my lease at the processors locker, and the man who took it was 2 miles from my patch. I've sat days overlooking trails to feeders and not seen a deer at all, but the trail cams deer, just night pics. I can't hunt at night, as dictated by my state, so I don't do it. I was under the presumption that if i did, THEN i'd be a poacher.

I generally bow hunt the trails and so on, but leave the feeders up all year round and do have a blind overlooking a series of trails from a bluff, and you can see one feeder 135 yrs away. I guess this makes me a poacher..even though i buy my tags, pay to supplement the deers feed all year long, and do everything legally within MY state. The public land available near me to hunt, you can't bait. So it rolls both ways in the Great State of Texas.

I would not do a canned hunt...what I consider a canned hunt..doesn't seem sporting to me. the 162 acres i lease are low fenced..as are most of the land around me in this county. There is one high fenced operation that has deer and hogs..and people pay to do that. not my cup of tea, but hey..to each their own in this country. Might seem like rattling a deer in is 'baiting' or 'enticing', using a scent elimator or camo or fox urine could be construed as 'tricking' a deer, and wouldn't sex scents be 'baiting' a deer? Some of those I use (scent eliminators and camo) and some I don't (sex scents and rattling)

for me to start labeling and grouping because as I was raised, well that's like pointing a finger and labeling cause one is Republican or Democrat, stick hunter vs. compound hunter, in-line muzzleloader or traditional...I have that right, but I guess in mixed and public company I'd be a bit apprehensive about stepping on toes.

You have that right,and that's a great thing about being where we all are....that we can live and speak and hunt as we want within the rules...

Iam relativly new to the world of hunting...I follow my state's rules and pay my tags and would never hunt 'pet' animals, but then....to be classed a 'poacher' kinda sucks..but oh well....I guess that' smy right:)

Ken B
North Texas

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I love it!

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man! LMAO at that graphic...

forgive me..I haven't been online in weeks with the school year starting back and I felt i had to post:)

that's too funny

kb

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to each their own as long as it's legal.

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This kind of thread screams immature poster looking for an argument.