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just wondering on how some guys hit the woods different. I always get into discussions with my hunting buddies about using calls or not using any!!same with attractent scents and not using them. some only use calls and scentsin pre rut some in rut or just post rut and some never use em. just loooking to here what you guys do and feel works.:)



Good hunting

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OK here's my 2 cents. Sorry if I come of as crude but this is my philosophy and I apologige in advance to all women or sensitive manly types
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If you think that new fantabulous primos grunt call makes you sound like a dominant buck tending a hot doe, you are an idiot. I can hear you 400 yards away - and it sounds like a stoned Jim Morrison singing "touch me Babe". Blow it loudly and often and please scare the deer to me. Same for the fawn/Doe bleat can. Go for it with the "rattlin sticks in a canvas bag" too if it tickles your fancy. Got a set of horns from your uncle from 1982? Great! Nothing better than the real thing....bungee 'em together and smash em together as hard as you want as often as you can....more deer for me running in terror from you sounding like John Bonhan doing a Moby Dick drum solo.
Me? I will be off the beaten path, in the darkest, deepest thicket/swamp I can find and gain quiet access too, with a sex attractant. 200 proof/Tinks 69/etc., etc., etc.It doesn't matter.

Never forget it's all about the *****...It always was and always will be. Period!

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hmmmm:eek:whatever that was above id and do call grunt and can but not usually together i mean if hes id say dont call if hes (insight) because usually thats close and hell look see nothings there and run...
did that last yr and cost me my 1st and one of the biggest bucks ive seen in the wild

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Dont use them

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I agree with the first post 100%, go to Wal-Mart and look at the all of whistles and bells they sell for hunting. Some might work but why risk it? I would rather be as stealth as possible and let the deer come thru like they did the day before etc. I think if your having to try to get a buck to come two ridges over then you need to learn to scout an area better. Get rid of all that garb I see people in town that have come down from the city wearing all kinds of **** around their neck grunts,horns, who knows.

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I've done both, but staying quiet seems to work the best for me. The only time I would call is if I were on the ground stalking, using the calls to cover any noise I might be making. I don't think calling from a stand is wise. Deer are smart, they can tell the sounds are coming from 16ft in the air. I do put scent wicks around my stand though.

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What the hell is that? Gibberish? I don't understand a word of it? Can you say "punctuation, capital letters?"

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whatever that was above idk*.i do grunt calland use the can but dont use both together. if hes in sight hell pick you off
i did it last year a buck was was 70yds but in sight and i called,he came runing into 50 and ..then trotted the other way.
it was one of the biggest bucks ive seen hunting.

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Calls work, it's undeniable. You have to use them right and in the right situations. Scents work as well, but again, right place at the right time. For me I just use scents to get the deer into a shooting position. I don't expect the scent to call them in from far away....that's what the grunt call is for. And it will bring them in more often than not, especially during the right time.

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I use a call if I can see deer and they aren't heading my way otherwise I just shut up.
SF

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I Can honestly say that the PRIMOS Doe can call works. All you do is turn it up side down and leter go. I kill ed several buck of different ages while using this thing. Some run in while others sneak in. But there all looking for that doe. I also use rattling horns from a thick beamed 6 point and from a small 4 point. I get more attention from dominant bucks using the 4 point horns......But, to Quote an old hunting mentor..."It really don't matter what you do.....If hes gonna be there, he'll be there regardless."

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I hunt in a very difficult WMA in Florida. The Green Swamp. Very few score. Once I met a man who was extremely sucessful in there. I had never got a deer in that WMA. I was on my 3rd year. He told me his success was using calls correctly. I told him I had gotten two answers before with a grunt and his reply...".Once they answer ,put the grunt call back in your pocket, he is on his way." I had blown that opportunity. For I had called over and over again. On Jan. 1st last year during our post rut I used the Primos ' Can' About 20 minutes later I heard a splash ,splash. To my surprize a young spike buck came high stepping out of a cypress dome. One shot from my new 30-30 Marlin put him out cold instantly. Calls........you bet ya. And reading your Bible in your stand helps alot too.

Brother Chuck

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Zoomer,
I believe the last sentence of your reply is quite offensive. On this forum you have to remember we have female hunters as well.

Brother Chuck

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I have found that calls are FAR better when you only use them to call to deer you can actually see and read! Blind calling simply educates more deer than anything else! I have a H.S. True Talker that has closed the deal on several P&Y class animals for me and I wouldn't go hunting without it, it's as important to me as my Rangefinder!

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I wont be as blunt as the first guy. But to be a successfull buck hunter, you first have to be a successfull doe hunter.
Find the does...and you will find the bucks. No call can substitute good scouting i.e. no where they eat, sleep, drink, and ****. That being said I still take my tru talker and my rattle bag but most of time they never leave my hunt bucket

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Zoomer, great post man.I have used calls with limited success but i always use some doe urine on a scent wick to help stop deer for a shot. this year no calls period

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If you use the calls at the proper time and situation they work fantastically.We have never had a time when we where calling that we had no response from a buck. But we know if you go and try to call in a buck at the wrong time of the season you might as well stay home and try to call one in to your nice warm bed.

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Calls do work but the most important thing is know what your saying and know when to say it!!!!! Same with scents they can produce if you know which one to use. Neither are magic though they will work and simply not work even when knowing what your doing. However the same can be said about sitting in stealth waiting to ambush. It's called hunting not killing for a reason!!!

I say the single biggest thing is scouting and learn as much about the animal you are chasing. Then you can adopt additional measures ifyou wish.

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Just doe-in-heat scents for me, thanks. Any sort of calling or rattling that isn't 100% authentic, to deer outside (or even inside) your visual is going educate the deer to do the hustle. If your rattling and they can see you moving they're gone, many before you know they were there. (Ever stop and think/realize how many times you were probobly BUSTED and never, ever even knew it? More than you think! guarantee.)

But the doe-in-heat scents I've have been using have definately worked very well. I use them sparingly (I like to "drip trail", paying close attention to the wind directions & patterns). I typically "drip trail" to bait into an area so that when the deer come in, they eventually realize there's no girls around and I can see them move in to or come out, and move off towards me, on a very faint scent trail. This gives me an advantage cause they're not looking as much ahead, as wanting to go back to the "hotter", more heavily scented area. I've seen guys who think they have to pour out a whole bottle at a time. The woods smell like a brothel at 4 in the morning.

No rattling antlers? Less to carry in/around/out. No movement necessary.

No noise maker? Less to clatter around. No movement necessary.

And Zoomer - posting a "disclaimer" is all cute and funny and all that. But does not excuse you from using langauge like that. I think just stating the boys can't help but to chase the ladies would have fully made your point. I see no reason to use vulgarities.

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Personally, I play the game to make my harvest the sweetest moment of that year in my life. By pitting my gray matter versus his keen senses, my belief is I have made it truely fairchase,bonafide and without trickery. To each their own, but after forty plus years into learning my craft and maybe somewhat philosofical now,I truely feel there is a differance.
The one thing I am sure about is that there is no substitute for learning the nature of the beast and how he uses the lay of the land in which he resides in, that isif you want to consistantly harvest big maturebucks. When a person endeaversyear after year to do that, there will come a time you wo'nt just be thinking it, you'll be knowing you are a big bucks worst nightmare.
For what it's worth, YFIS.

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I agree with Zoomer for the most part. I usually don't use calls either. However, when the rut is coming on and the bucks are starting to move, calling can really work. The rest of the time, and especially if calling is loud and often, I think it risks spooking them off. It seems like the more pressured the deer are, the less calls work. Like some others have said, scents are another matter. Deer have to use their sense of smell, to find food or other deer and to avoid danger. Maybe if calls weren't being used as often, deer might respond a little better. The way it is these days, blowing away on a call on public land is like standing up and screaming, "I'm a hunter over here!" They know that sound means danger.

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I have used calls and rattle bags with success. Experience will teach you when/how to use these tools.

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Before the rut I just pick my place and lay low. No noise what so ever! When the rut starts I make a fifty yard circle around my stand with Doc's Doe in Heat with four spokes running to my stand with three bombs out there with the same scent. After a half hour in the standI let the grunt call rip!!!!!!!!!!!! Works like a charm and every buck that I have shot has come screaming in like it a fat kid who just fell down, scraped his knee, and lost his ice cream cone!

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bow hunting... you may need to get that bucks attention by rattling grunting or sex lure. just to get him . in close enuf. You may have to grunt to get him to stop for that bowshot for better accuracy.. With that rifle you can touch him from hundreds ofyards away. I have the calls, the sex lures and the horns, sometimes i use them , sometimes i dont. If anything can enhance your hunt go for it.

ps dont forget to soak those old horns in cold water to wakem up. sheds do not work as well as those cut off,,sheds sound hollow