WY NONRESIDENT National Forest Hunting
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From: Vermont
While clicking and picking, I found this..So my question is does this apply to all
National Forest's in WY ? or just wilderness area's ? if so what the differents ?
Below is FAQ from Wy fish & Game site.
Q. Is it true nonresidents cannot hunt in national forest wilderness areas without a guide?
A. Basically, that''s right. Wyoming statute says nonresidents must have a licensed guide or resident companion to hunt big or trophy game in national forest wilderness areas. The resident companion will need to get a free non-commercial guide license from a G&F office. The law does not prohibit nonresidents from hiking, fishing or hunting game birds or coyotes in wilderness areas. Only nonresident big and trophy game hunters must have a licensed guide or resident companion.
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From: Sheridan WY USA
The biggest difference is that the wilderness areas are closed to any types of motorized traffic. There are other rules as well such as camping restrictions and such, whereas the national forest has designated roads, trails and a similar but different set of rules as far as camping. Ask a state official and they'll tell you that one of the biggest reasons is that the wilderness areas are more remote and that the outfitter requirement is for your personal safety. Trust me, you can be just as lost in the national forest as the wildeness!!! But to answer your question, this rule applies to all of Wyoming. Out of staters must have an outfitter to hunt in the wilderness areas, but not necessary for the forests.
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Game and fish will have the wilderness areas distinguished on the area maps. The vast majority of national forrests are not designated wilderness and you can hunt them without a guide. What area are you thinking of hunting?
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I have hunted WY twice. Once in'93 for Muley & Antelope. Then again for whitetail in '99 bothhunts were guided. hunts.I noticed there were[/align]some left over 2005 licenses and thats whenI saw the FAQ on national forest. I was thinking about maybehuntingdeer in the Bighorn Mountains. I know most of the land around Sheridan/Bighornand at the foothills of the Mountainsare private and pretty much off limits. How everI have got believe that a few deer could be in that National Forest ? Thats what I was thinking.[/align][/align]
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I hunted the western face of the Bighorns above Tensleep and saw some nice bucks. There are a lot of deer in the Sheridan/Buffalo area. Stands to reason that there should be plenty on the mountain on the national forrest.
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I wonder why it is OK for non-resident fishermen and backpackers to get lost and die in the Wyoming wilderness areas but not big game hunters? Wouldn't non-resident fishermen and backpackers be just as likely to get in trouble in the roadless wilderness areas as the big game hunters? That is my question.
On the other hand, it may be that there is a much larger number of non-resident big game hunters that come to Wyoming and there may be a larger share of wilderness challenged people among this population. As someone who has backpacked in wilderness areas before, including in the wilderness area in the Big Horn mountains ("Red Cloud" wilderness area?), I'm a little put off by the idea that I would be required to have a guide or a resident to hold my hand in a Wyoming wilderness area, though.
On the other hand, it may be that there is a much larger number of non-resident big game hunters that come to Wyoming and there may be a larger share of wilderness challenged people among this population. As someone who has backpacked in wilderness areas before, including in the wilderness area in the Big Horn mountains ("Red Cloud" wilderness area?), I'm a little put off by the idea that I would be required to have a guide or a resident to hold my hand in a Wyoming wilderness area, though.
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thats cloud peak wilderness area.
and the best reason i can think of for a guide during hunting season is, the packing out of an animal, skinning on the ground, de boning, and the thought that in the heat of the moment after the shot, the track down of the game, now where am i for sure? then its dark and get real cold, and what direction to camp?
fisherman, and back packers don't have that problem, they go on trails, and by maps to a certain spot, not over what ever an animal will take them!
just my .02
and the best reason i can think of for a guide during hunting season is, the packing out of an animal, skinning on the ground, de boning, and the thought that in the heat of the moment after the shot, the track down of the game, now where am i for sure? then its dark and get real cold, and what direction to camp?
fisherman, and back packers don't have that problem, they go on trails, and by maps to a certain spot, not over what ever an animal will take them!
just my .02
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The law, "Any nonresident hunting in a designated wilderness area in Wyoming must be acompanied by a guide/outfitter or resident hunter", is discriminatory as far as I am concerned,. I have posted it here before during the arguments with Spiro Andes over nonresident/resident priveleges!
The wilderness law has been tested three times that I can think of, and all three times a judge ruled in favor of the G&F. The law is in place to protect outfitters, and give them some leverage in getting nonresident hunters. It is nothing more than that!!!!! My previous posts and my belief is this, you can hike, jog, fish, horse back ride, trap, dance,eat, sleep, and sh!t, in a wilderness area, but you can't hunt! DISCRIMINATION is my feeling.
The wilderness law has been tested three times that I can think of, and all three times a judge ruled in favor of the G&F. The law is in place to protect outfitters, and give them some leverage in getting nonresident hunters. It is nothing more than that!!!!! My previous posts and my belief is this, you can hike, jog, fish, horse back ride, trap, dance,eat, sleep, and sh!t, in a wilderness area, but you can't hunt! DISCRIMINATION is my feeling.
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