410 steel shot
03-17-2005 | 08:27 AM
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410 steel shot
was wondering if there is any steel shot out there to buy for a 410 and where, I know that you can buy bismuth in that load but a little to pricey for me. Was wanting to hunt this year with the smaller guage to prove some points that its not the size of the gun but where you point the gun. That being said we usually only shoot at decoying birds less than 30 yards.
03-24-2005 | 09:36 AM
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RE: 410 steel shot
ORIGINAL: johnch
That I know about there is no steel shot loads for the 410 .
Thank GOD.
That I know about there is no steel shot loads for the 410 .
Thank GOD.
How many younger folks could we get into waterfowlin if we could find a good 410 load. Nothing personal johnch.
03-26-2005 | 08:07 AM
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RE: 410 steel shot
A 3" 410 dosn't have enough shot for the average experanced shooter to hit most of the birds with ,using lead.
The 410 bore is well knone for real tight patterens ( steel shot would be worse) that lack edge density for clean kills .
I am a trap shooting instructor for our club ,410's are put in the hands of kids because of low recoil ,after trying and missing lots of easy targets they get PO and quite trying.
Most adults lack the skill to tell a 20 yd from a 25 yd flying target ,Thats where IMO a 410 would max out.
Most 410's are choked Full ,a bad choice for steel shot.
I am not saying a 410 steel shot load would not kill ,just the cripple to kill would be high and the miss to cripple would be real high.
A far better choice in small gau steel shot guns would be a 20, loads are out there and it is a proven moderate range gun.
If for a kid the 410 is great for squirles siting in a tree but leave the feild hunting to a biger gau IMO
Johnch
The 410 bore is well knone for real tight patterens ( steel shot would be worse) that lack edge density for clean kills .
I am a trap shooting instructor for our club ,410's are put in the hands of kids because of low recoil ,after trying and missing lots of easy targets they get PO and quite trying.
Most adults lack the skill to tell a 20 yd from a 25 yd flying target ,Thats where IMO a 410 would max out.
Most 410's are choked Full ,a bad choice for steel shot.
I am not saying a 410 steel shot load would not kill ,just the cripple to kill would be high and the miss to cripple would be real high.
A far better choice in small gau steel shot guns would be a 20, loads are out there and it is a proven moderate range gun.
If for a kid the 410 is great for squirles siting in a tree but leave the feild hunting to a biger gau IMO
Johnch
03-27-2005 | 12:22 AM
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RE: 410 steel shot
I am gonna side with you johnch!!! The 410 carries very few pellets and no beginner I know could use one on waterfowl, just the most experienced guys i know and that wouldnt even be good!!!
03-29-2005 | 08:56 AM
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RE: 410 steel shot
ORIGINAL: johnch
A 3" 410 dosn't have enough shot for the average experanced shooter to hit most of the birds with ,using lead.
The 410 bore is well knone for real tight patterens ( steel shot would be worse) that lack edge density for clean kills .
I am a trap shooting instructor for our club ,410's are put in the hands of kids because of low recoil ,after trying and missing lots of easy targets they get PO and quite trying.
Most adults lack the skill to tell a 20 yd from a 25 yd flying target ,Thats where IMO a 410 would max out.
Most 410's are choked Full ,a bad choice for steel shot.
I am not saying a 410 steel shot load would not kill ,just the cripple to kill would be high and the miss to cripple would be real high.
A far better choice in small gau steel shot guns would be a 20, loads are out there and it is a proven moderate range gun.
If for a kid the 410 is great for squirles siting in a tree but leave the feild hunting to a biger gau IMO
Johnch
A 3" 410 dosn't have enough shot for the average experanced shooter to hit most of the birds with ,using lead.
The 410 bore is well knone for real tight patterens ( steel shot would be worse) that lack edge density for clean kills .
I am a trap shooting instructor for our club ,410's are put in the hands of kids because of low recoil ,after trying and missing lots of easy targets they get PO and quite trying.
Most adults lack the skill to tell a 20 yd from a 25 yd flying target ,Thats where IMO a 410 would max out.
Most 410's are choked Full ,a bad choice for steel shot.
I am not saying a 410 steel shot load would not kill ,just the cripple to kill would be high and the miss to cripple would be real high.
A far better choice in small gau steel shot guns would be a 20, loads are out there and it is a proven moderate range gun.
If for a kid the 410 is great for squirles siting in a tree but leave the feild hunting to a biger gau IMO
Johnch
04-01-2005 | 08:49 AM
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RE: 410 steel shot
ORIGINAL: Carpmaster
I am gonna side with you johnch!!! The 410 carries very few pellets and no beginner I know could use one on waterfowl, just the most experienced guys i know and that wouldnt even be good!!!
I am gonna side with you johnch!!! The 410 carries very few pellets and no beginner I know could use one on waterfowl, just the most experienced guys i know and that wouldnt even be good!!!
Now find him a load for this .410 so we can be more evenly matched. And don't worry, if he wounds one I'll be standing by to swat it with my 3 1/2s.