Hevishot vs steel
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Windsor, CA
Posts: 2,279
RE: Hevishot vs steel
for geese, yes i do, for duck no. and it also depends on how tall your geese are, if there low ive killed specks with #2steel, but ig there tall i feel hevi does the trick. my dad got his second honker ever only cause he was shooting hevi's
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,195
RE: Hevishot vs steel
As huntnteen said, for geese absolutely! I shot Hevishot for the first time this year and I clearly had an advantage over the guys that shot steel. I shot Hevishot #2's for geese.It really paid off late in the season when the geese were wary and wouldn't come in to our spread like they did in the beginning of the season. Try a box. You'll be hooked.
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La-Tex
Posts: 246
RE: Hevishot vs steel
It's worth it to me. I wait until I find a sale and stock up. Just bought four 25 box cases of 20 gauge 3" Hevi brand for $10.00 a box. Also picked up three 25 box cases of the Rem. Hevi 2 3/4" 20 gauge shells for $13.00 a box. Got 25 boxes of Fed Ti 12 ga 3" #4 shot for $8.00 a box and should have bought 200 boxes. I learned from that buy all you can when you find it.
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location:
Posts: 6,357
RE: Hevishot vs steel
YES.
Basically, there is no arguing with the physics. Sure, steel can kill ducks. For some hunters, steel will kill all the ducks they shoot at. For other hunters, including me, some ducks are going to be recovered when shot with Hevishot that otherwise would not have been recovered if shot under the same conditions with steel.
I don't shoot a gazillion shells during duck season. I get to hunt maybe four weekends per year. On a weekend, I might shoot 20 shells, likely less. If I shoot Hevishot, that is $50 of shells or less. That may sound like a lot of money, but on this same weekend I've driven 500 miles (250 miles there, 250 miles back) and spent maybe $40 on gasoline. I've spent some money on food. It seems I'm always buying some sort of new gear -- decoys, game carriers, waders, anchor weights, etc., etc. Then there is the non-resident hunting license and state duck stamp and federal duck stamp. When it comes right down to it, my cost for Hevishot is less than 50% of my hunting expense, and yet it may have the greatest influence on how many birds I bring home with me. If I flat out could not afford Hevishot, I would shoot steel and be happy. I can, however, afford Hevishot and feel glad to shoot it.
I do sometimes think that maybe in the future I'll become a better shotgun shooter and may be able to perform well enough with steel to forgo Hevishot, but it would be a decision based on not having many cripples -- which I hate. It could also be a function of learning better how to pass on ducks that are beyond my range with steel. But where I'm at today I'm glad to be able to afford and use the Hevishot.
Basically, there is no arguing with the physics. Sure, steel can kill ducks. For some hunters, steel will kill all the ducks they shoot at. For other hunters, including me, some ducks are going to be recovered when shot with Hevishot that otherwise would not have been recovered if shot under the same conditions with steel.
I don't shoot a gazillion shells during duck season. I get to hunt maybe four weekends per year. On a weekend, I might shoot 20 shells, likely less. If I shoot Hevishot, that is $50 of shells or less. That may sound like a lot of money, but on this same weekend I've driven 500 miles (250 miles there, 250 miles back) and spent maybe $40 on gasoline. I've spent some money on food. It seems I'm always buying some sort of new gear -- decoys, game carriers, waders, anchor weights, etc., etc. Then there is the non-resident hunting license and state duck stamp and federal duck stamp. When it comes right down to it, my cost for Hevishot is less than 50% of my hunting expense, and yet it may have the greatest influence on how many birds I bring home with me. If I flat out could not afford Hevishot, I would shoot steel and be happy. I can, however, afford Hevishot and feel glad to shoot it.
I do sometimes think that maybe in the future I'll become a better shotgun shooter and may be able to perform well enough with steel to forgo Hevishot, but it would be a decision based on not having many cripples -- which I hate. It could also be a function of learning better how to pass on ducks that are beyond my range with steel. But where I'm at today I'm glad to be able to afford and use the Hevishot.
#8
RE: Hevishot vs steel
Depends on how good a shot you are.
If you couldn't hit your ass with both hands then you might as well get you a pocket full of rocks and not ring my ears.
I've been shooting (or should I say shot) Hevi for better than a decade. Usually load it as the first shell and back it up with two steel. Before they monkey'd with the formula for that new Hevi-shot duck BS they have now, you'd never have to shoot a cripple. I shot swans, geese and ducks with regular 2 3/4" #6 hevi-shot. When Evironmetal took the loading back over and changed it from just hevi-shot to hevi-duck and hevi-goose... no more. I'm sitting on $400 worth of that hevi-duck junk.
I think that the new HEVI_SHOT DUCK (9.7gr/cc) is one of the biggest waste of money products on the market. Spend another dollar and get the Goose (12gr/cc) which is the REAL hevi-shot.
As for what I'm doing now... shooting up the rest of my hevi-duck... then sticking with Hevi-steel. Basically the same thing as hevi-duck (just a touch less dense) but MUCH less expensive). I shoot too many birds a year to shoot a high density shot exclusively.
If you couldn't hit your ass with both hands then you might as well get you a pocket full of rocks and not ring my ears.
I've been shooting (or should I say shot) Hevi for better than a decade. Usually load it as the first shell and back it up with two steel. Before they monkey'd with the formula for that new Hevi-shot duck BS they have now, you'd never have to shoot a cripple. I shot swans, geese and ducks with regular 2 3/4" #6 hevi-shot. When Evironmetal took the loading back over and changed it from just hevi-shot to hevi-duck and hevi-goose... no more. I'm sitting on $400 worth of that hevi-duck junk.
I think that the new HEVI_SHOT DUCK (9.7gr/cc) is one of the biggest waste of money products on the market. Spend another dollar and get the Goose (12gr/cc) which is the REAL hevi-shot.
As for what I'm doing now... shooting up the rest of my hevi-duck... then sticking with Hevi-steel. Basically the same thing as hevi-duck (just a touch less dense) but MUCH less expensive). I shoot too many birds a year to shoot a high density shot exclusively.