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Limb-lifting is not hunting, but in defense of Robb, this is how it is typically done in WA and other non-pressured states. In regard to shooting 90% out of trees, I'll bet you have walked past another 90%, without a good dog.

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THAT IS PROBABLY TRU THAT I HAVE MISSED SEVERAL GROUSE WITH OUT HAVING A DOG, BUT I'M TELLING YOU THE THRUTH WHERE I HUNT UP IN THE MOUNTIAN WE HUNT FOREST GROUSE AND THE COVER IT TO THICK TO USE A DOG, HALF THE TIME YOU CAN HEAR THE GROUSE FLY UP AND BY THE TIME YOU SEE THEM YOU CAN'T GET A SHOT OFF BECUASE THE TREE LIMBS ARE IN THE WAY. I DON'T USE A SHOTGUN I USE A 22 WHICH IS LEGAL IN WASHINGTON. YOU CAN ALSO SHOOT GROUSE WITH A RIM FIRE RIFLE DURING BIG GAME SEASON IF YOU HAVE THE PROPER TAGS FOR THE SEASON YOUR HUNTING IN.

Edited by - robb92 on 02/27/2002 21:10:15

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Well I have to say I hunt The UP every year and my friends up there use labs to flush. It is alot of fun. But I have a 13 MOnth GSP that I took up there last year she is out of Grouse Hunting bloodlines both her parents are grouse dog she did rather well. She was only 10 months old I killed 5 grouse over her in 5 days of hunting. The birds do make it tough as they like to run.
She made retrieves on every one, I would have never found 2 of them with out her.. But I am looking forward to next season. All I can say is I just enjoy the challenge of my dog pointing those birds....I can buy all the chicken I want if I am hungry. It is nnot about the number of birds in my bag.....Just a thought.

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As my other half would say,

Hunting without dog is like having sex with yourself, it can be done, but is much more enjoyable with a partner.

Honeyrun

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There are hunters out there who actually believe you can't hunt grouse without a dog. That is hogwash. I get tired of hearing it.


Mr. 16
The owners may be very knowledgable however it the dogs I'm referring to. 95% of them simply flush birds out of range. Your last paragraph is right on. I'm afraid that is the scenario with most hunters with dogs.

Drdan

More power to you if you enjoy watching your dog work. I can understand your point. It's not about just bagging birds but that is a big part of it.

Honey run
Your right sex is better with two people. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> A experienced hunter who works alone or with a friendand knows what type of cover to look for is going to get a lot more shooting than someone with a dog.

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Country Nate:

You left out one scenerio, an experienced hunter with an &quot;experienced&quot; dog (as opposed to just &quot;a&quot; dog) will get you more birds in the bag than just an experienced hunter alone. ;)

True, that a inexperienced dog will cost you more birds then you get to put in your bag.

Cindy

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I use my GSP for grouse and it works fine for me. He makes some nice points.He bumps a few,
sometimes right into perfectly shooting range.He's even made some great points while the grouse are in trees its great. Wouldn't hunt any other way.

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Wingshooter
I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I've been logging on to this website for a while and I knew I would spark a debate on this matter. What's wrong with that? If everyone agreed with one another on everything this would be just another boring website. I do not wish to engage in insults.

Honey run

I read everything I can get my hands on concerning grouse hunting. The article I referred to previously is not the first time I've read this. Many of the most experienced Grouse hunters will tell you that most dogs hurt your chances. My personal experience confirms this.

As I stated before, if watching a dog work makes the hunt more enjoyable for you then good for you. However, the notion that dogs are beneficial to getting more good shooting in - well that is a different story. The point of the artical was that even when you are talking about &quot;experienced&quot; dogs most hinder rather than help. It's a very rare dog (as the author states less than 1%) that actually benefits the hunter when it comes to getting better shots at grouse. They simply range to far and/or point to close for today's educated birds.
I also live in PA and I think you will agree that the birds are more often than not a little jumpy. Mabie you own one of the very few. If you honestly do I would like to see him or her work sometime that would be impressive for me to see.

CN