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.655 Too tight?

Old 03-02-2005, 07:12 PM
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Default .655 Too tight?

Im about to order a Kicks gobblin thunder choke tube for my mossberg 500. The only two constrictions availible are 655 and 665. It seems like to me the tighter the better but i have heard a choke that is too tight is not good. Does anyone have expierience with a 655 and 665. Which is better in your gun.
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Old 03-02-2005, 10:14 PM
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I don't know about the Mossberg,but I have a Kick's .665 on my 870. It patterns very nicely with Federal 2 oz. 5's. You're right about a too tight choke being counter productive. I called Kick's and they recommended the .665 for my gun.
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Old 03-03-2005, 04:08 AM
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A smaller constriction usually works best with smaller shot. 655 is pretty small. If it patterns well, it'll probably only do so with #6's. The .665 ID choke will probably pattern well with a wider variety of shot sizes. I've got a .665 in my older Browning. It's the same choke system as your 500. It shoots a very tight pattern with both #6's and #4's.
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:28 PM
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The .665 is where'd I place my bet. I had a 500 Mossberg that was unreal with a .665 and basic 3" turkey loads. The tighter constriction is going to limit you to the smaller sized shot... which is not a good thing IMO.

I'll betcha dollars to donuts that the .665 with #6 Hevishot will be a real thumper, (be my #1 choice for that rig) or if you want lead only, try that same .665 with Winchester Supreme 3" High Velocity #5's. You'll have a winner either way. Yessiree.
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:55 AM
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Will the .665 not be too tight for the dense heavy shot. I heard that the shot would bulge barrels if the choke was too tight. I havent tried it yet because i dont want to mess up my barrel! I guess i need a little assurance.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:26 AM
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Bubba... you are correct... the .665 is very well suited for the Hevi-shot payloads. No worries. No damage. Just dead turkeys.
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:33 PM
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Remington recommends nothing tighter than .665 with the hevishot
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:42 PM
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I have tested pretty much all types of turkey loads from 2 3/4 to 3in to 3 1/2's on both my 870 express and my 835 and here's what I've come up with. For starters every gun is different so you must experiment. I've shot winchester high velosity 3in out my 870 with a standard 665 remington super full choke and had great sucess up to 45 yards then the pattern fell through. I've shot the heavy shot with the same setup all by the way were 4 shot. Great pattern out to about 30 yards then the pattern fell of the face of the earth. So I choose the winchesters due to their pattern grouping. Now onto the 835, tested 3 1/2 federal 6's out of the ultimag with an comp-n-choke and was getting no better pattern than with my 870 and 45 yards. The choke was an xxx full with is 670 pretty tight right, wrong, so then I tried the winchester high velocities 3 1/2 with 6's much better pattern but not what I expected from the choke, so I called the company and found out that they reccommend a 655 for shorter barrels ( 24in) and exchanged the 665 for a 655 and what a diffference it made well over 70bb's in the head and neck at 50yards. I was impressed nessless to say, sure at 15 yards I had a baseball size pattern and had to be careful up to 25 yard when the pattern expanded, but no gobbler was safe between 25 and 60yards. My advice go with the 655 out of shorter barrels no heavy shot the company dosen't reccommend it at least a few years ago they did, but anyway if you have a 3 1/2 half in gun shoot winchester high velocities #6's if you have a 3in gun shoot 665 with winchesterhigh velocities # 4's and see what you come up with. I did test the new federal rounds that came out just recently in both 3 1/2 and 3in in the sizes mentioned above and found out that they don't even come close to the Winchester High Velocities in pattern density. If you can't find a choke for your gun comp-n-choke has one, the same company makes kick's too but in my guns comp-n-choke performed much better. Any choke that can slow down the wad a little bit will be ok, but test, test, test, and you will find the perfect blend of what your looking for. Good luck and keep up informed. Lou-Lou2
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:41 PM
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I like the .655 with lead shot #5's or smaller and the .660 or .665 with Hevi-Shot.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:59 PM
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I like to shoot 4's
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