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duckdowngreg 03-21-2009 09:20 AM

Follow Up Shot Size?
 
Do you like to use bigger shot sizes for second & third follow up shots?
I’ve got some Remington Hevi Shot Nitro Magnum Loads, 3” 1 3/8 oz 1450 fps in sizes #4 & #2 shot. (duck loads from two years ago)
Thinking of using #6 shot for first round then going with the #4 for second & the #2 for third round. Any thoughts?
Next question: I’m planning on using 3” Hevi13 #6 shot for the first shot out of a Remington 11-87 factory full choke. What would be best, the 1 5/8 oz or the 2 oz Hevi13 load?
Thanks for the feed back…..

IL-Cornfed 03-21-2009 01:08 PM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
I stay with the load my shotgun shoot the best... for first shot, and any follow shot that may be needed.... which it won't be IF you're using Hevi13. lol!

Based on any testing we've done, the 3", 2oz., #6 is THE best patterning Hev-Shot load in all of our guns we've fed it through.

Good luck and good shootin'

mouthcaller 03-21-2009 02:13 PM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
Firstly, you need to check with your state regs to make sure #2 shot is legal. It is not legal in any state that I ever hunted. Fours or smaller only.

Since Nitros are so expensive I only load one Triplex 3.5", 2.25oz' 4X5X7 in the chamber. What is loaded behind it really doesn't matter because if I can't kill him with that there isn't much point in any follow-ups.

On the other hand, I have shot turkeys (pre-Nitro days) that were notcompletely dispatched with the first shot and had to shoot them again. For those shots I would recommend going with smaller, rather than larger, shot because it provides a larger, more dense pattern. A wounded turkey will be moving and hitting them running or flying is no easy task. The more shot the better in my book.

Hurricanespg 03-21-2009 02:19 PM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
There is no way I would recommend decreasing pattern density for a follow up shot. Those Hevi-13 #6's will have more killing range than you have pattern density. If you don't get them with it the first time hit them in the head the second time and it is a done deal.
The 2oz offering is quite superior to the 1-5/8oz load.
If you are going to be using the factory full choke you will probably increase your range (by increasing pattern density) a bit by going to the Federal Heavyweight #7's with the Flitecontrol wad. Might want to give them a look.

gmil6184 03-22-2009 04:28 PM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
I would just stick with the same load for the sake of simplicity. You would first have to make sure that each load patterned well out of your shotgun/choke (which is not a given), plus I wouldn't want to have to worry about accidentally loading the wrong shell first when i was loading my gun in the dark woods at 5 am. Also, if you are shooting at a turkey and you haven't killed him with the first two shots chances are the third shot is going to just be a waste of ammo haha. You give that old tom two warning shots and you can bet your bottom dollar he is getting out of dodge at about Mach 2! If you bring him down with that third shot you are either one hell of a shot or one lucky SOB, or both!

maytom 03-23-2009 04:13 AM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
I agree with the others as well. Your gun is set up to pattern a certain shell well, so why use a different shell altogether for a second shot?

RIStrutStopper 03-23-2009 07:28 AM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
Stick with what your gun likes best. #2 probably isn't legal, check your regs. I've never taken a follow up shot...

doall hunter 03-23-2009 09:09 AM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
I load one nitro and my follow ups are the cheap turkey loads that are about 5x worse than nitros. The reason is if you cant kill him with a nitro that what to expect from something else?

duckdowngreg 03-23-2009 11:32 PM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 

Thanks for thefeed backguys. This Saturday will be my first time after Turkeys so looking for all the help I can getto improve my odds with Mr. Tom.
About bigger shot sizes for 2nd & 3rd shots, I’ve been doing that for 35 years on pheasants & waterfowl. I use 1 ¼ #6 – 1 3/8 #5 – 1 3/8 #4 all doing 1330 for pheasants. On waterfowl I also go up in size 4, 3, 2 or 4, 2, 1 or 2, 1, BB depending on the scenario. blind, drain, sneak, woodducks, mallards, geese, etc. So I had to ask about what to do on Turkeys.
One more time out scouting then its on…1st time out??1st shot 1st bird ???Still got lots to learn but I’m doing my home work & got my fingers crossed. [/i]

superstrutter 03-24-2009 09:16 AM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
My first shot is a Rem. Hevi Shot Magnum 3 1/2 inch 5 shot. My second shot is the same, if needed. My third shot is the same, if needed. Why would you go with a cheap shell on your 2nd and 3rd shots? This is probably when you would need your best shells. Just make sure you get a first good shot so you won't have to worry about a 2nd or 3rd shot. If you hunt long enough, you will miss. I believe it's better to have the same load in case of a 2nd or 3rd shot.

RockyMtnGobblers 03-24-2009 12:59 PM

RE: Follow Up Shot Size?
 
Follow up shots? In most cases a follow up shot should not be needed if you find the best load for your gun and make sure it patterns well out to 40 yards or more. Ionly shoot within therange of of my gun and make sureI have a clean shot.
I have never needed a second or worse a third shot. I know it can happen but you can reduce the chanced by knowing your setup and the range your shooting. I only keep 3 shells with me and they are all Nitro 3x5x7's

There are always more turkeys that will offer a better shot, I like clean kills.
Thats me not trying to rain on anyones parade.

cjgjr 04-02-2010 05:41 PM

I understand what your thinking.
But what the others said about the hevi 6 shot.Just use that for follow ups.I missed a bird with the hevi 6 shot,He was to close bout 12 yrds.I then knocked him out of the sky while he was escaping at bout 30 yrds with a body hit!!Broke his wing bone etc!!!Fell from the sky stone dead!!!
Good luck this season,and keep it loaded with all the same shell.
U arnt gonna beat heavy six shot,only thing im seeing on paper Thats close is the hevi 13 magnum blend with #5,6,7 shot 2oz.3"shell. Havent tried it yet on turks,just did pattening with it.It rips thru ply wood just like the heavy13 6 shot 2oz but this has little more pellets where u want them.

hunt12ga 04-02-2010 08:40 PM

I don't have much to say about follow ups. I will mention though that if you plan on the Hevi's, make sure your choke is meant for them

rw

stretch56 04-03-2010 03:10 AM

stay with the shell your gun patterns best

dawei 04-03-2010 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by duckdowngreg (Post 3299028)
Do you like to use bigger shot sizes for second and; third follow up shots?
I"ve got some Remington Hevi Shot Nitro Magnum Loads, 3" 1 3/8 oz 1450 fps in sizes #4 and; #2 shot. (duck loads from two years ago)
Thinking of using #6 shot for first round then going with the #4 for second & the #2 for third round. Any thoughts?
Next question: I"m planning on using 3" Hevi13 #6 shot for the first shot out of a Remington 11-87 factory full choke. What would be best, the 1 5/8 oz or the 2 oz Hevi13 load?
Thanks for the feed back"..

I have hunted turkeys for almost 40 years. During all that time I've had to shoot a second shot a couple of times. When I first started I used a Ithaca Lefever Nitro Special 16ga SxS. The gun is choked MOD and FULL. I loaded the FULL choke barrel with Federal 2" Magnum 1oz #6Pb. I placed the same load except with #2Pb in the MOD barrel. 90%+ of the turkey's I've shot have died with the first shot. Two have went down but got back up an ran. I was able to quickly dispatch these gobblers with a second shot of #2. (Trying to hit a running gobbler in the head is nigh on to impossible for me.) I was thankful for the big shot to be able harvest the wounded birds. Now, where I live (WA State), nothing larger the #4 shot may be used. Whether I'm using my pump gun or, my SxS, the ammo is the same - #6 for the first shot, and #4 for any followup shot.


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