Tom/Jake
07-28-2007, 09:03 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Tom/Jake
age
Jakes are first year birds. they arent quite a year old(born the previous summer) they are usually spotted by the tail fan. when in full strut, the middle feathers of their fans are usually longer than the rest. spurs and beards are also shorter. spurs are usually just a bump, and beards can reach MAYBE 6" or so at best..most are 3-4". some say you can pick out a jake gobble...i think some you can some you cant. alot of times they seem to have a "short" gobble. they say gobble...but not the obble obble or something like that..but not ALL the time..and ive heard longbeards that i would put money on being jake birds
Toms are long beards. pretty much everything opposite of a jake. full fan, spurs, long beard, etc..2yo+
weight is also USUALLY different. jakes are usually a good couple pounds lighter...depends on area...my area jakes go from like 12-15 or so and longbeards go 17+ usually....somewhere around there...
Jakes are first year birds. they arent quite a year old(born the previous summer) they are usually spotted by the tail fan. when in full strut, the middle feathers of their fans are usually longer than the rest. spurs and beards are also shorter. spurs are usually just a bump, and beards can reach MAYBE 6" or so at best..most are 3-4". some say you can pick out a jake gobble...i think some you can some you cant. alot of times they seem to have a "short" gobble. they say gobble...but not the obble obble or something like that..but not ALL the time..and ive heard longbeards that i would put money on being jake birds
Toms are long beards. pretty much everything opposite of a jake. full fan, spurs, long beard, etc..2yo+
weight is also USUALLY different. jakes are usually a good couple pounds lighter...depends on area...my area jakes go from like 12-15 or so and longbeards go 17+ usually....somewhere around there...
07-29-2007, 08:57 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Tom/Jake
Good answer mauser....
Pysical characteristics with some understanding of the social order among the flock....read these...
http://www.wildturkeyzone.com/articles/aging2.htm
http://www.wildturkeyzone.com/articles/aging3.htm
http://www.wildturkeyzone.com/articles/aging4.htm
Pysical characteristics with some understanding of the social order among the flock....read these...
http://www.wildturkeyzone.com/articles/aging2.htm
http://www.wildturkeyzone.com/articles/aging3.htm
http://www.wildturkeyzone.com/articles/aging4.htm
07-30-2007, 06:37 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Tom/Jake
don't the beards get shorter on the older birds, ie: 6yrs. and older ? i know the one Tom had like a 10 inch beard, by the time he was 8 yrs.it was a 3-4 inch nub, his spurs got smaller as well to think of it ....is that the norm ? well, it cant be because flhuntress killed that 8 inch beard with 1.5 inch spurs...he was an older bird, dont know how old though, maybe it just the beards....do y'all know ? seems like they get uglier heads as time goes, not that a gobbler could ever be ugly, i put that there for the lack of better words, lol..
07-31-2007, 05:36 PM
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RE: Tom/Jake
ORIGINAL: Arrowmaster
There are only a couple factors that will shorten a mature gobblers beard. One is beard rot, and the other is if it gets froven over winter and breaks off.
There are only a couple factors that will shorten a mature gobblers beard. One is beard rot, and the other is if it gets froven over winter and breaks off.
08-02-2007, 08:21 PM
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RE: Tom/Jake
ORIGINAL: huntnma
don't the beards get shorter on the older birds, ie: 6yrs. and older ? i know the one Tom had like a 10 inch beard, by the time he was 8 yrs.it was a 3-4 inch nub, his spurs got smaller as well to think of it ....is that the norm ? well, it cant be because flhuntress killed that 8 inch beard with 1.5 inch spurs...he was an older bird, dont know how old though, maybe it just the beards....do y'all know ? seems like they get uglier heads as time goes, not that a gobbler could ever be ugly, i put that there for the lack of better words, lol..
don't the beards get shorter on the older birds, ie: 6yrs. and older ? i know the one Tom had like a 10 inch beard, by the time he was 8 yrs.it was a 3-4 inch nub, his spurs got smaller as well to think of it ....is that the norm ? well, it cant be because flhuntress killed that 8 inch beard with 1.5 inch spurs...he was an older bird, dont know how old though, maybe it just the beards....do y'all know ? seems like they get uglier heads as time goes, not that a gobbler could ever be ugly, i put that there for the lack of better words, lol..
