hey i am from vt and i try and use a owl and crow call as much as possible and they both sounds fine but i can ever get one to sound from them any sugestions???

thanks

tc

I rarely get gobblers to answer my crow call and hooter. I only use them before season and early in the morning anyways. If a turkey is going to vocal, he will gobble on his own.

Sorry, thats not really a suggestion.

Try a screaming hawke , a peacock or even a firecracker , yes thats right I said a firecracker.
Something that they are not use to hearing in the woods will make them " shock gobble " I've tried the firecracker in the evening hours just before sundown.
It works great , they'll " shock gobble to it every time and I know where there roosting , it might scare some of the other wild life but what the heck your trying to locate turkeys.

I've had very little success with an owl hooter however I have had very good success with a crow. Perhaps your not loud enough or authentic enough, rythm etc...don't know, but like was mentioned, usually early morning is best.

I've always used both over the years andit's likeeverything else associated with turkey hunting, some days it works and some days it doesn't. I've found that it works more for me than it doesn't! Even on the VT & NH birds I hunt.A fellow hunter I was with one morningtold me exactly what you're saying; that an owl hoots never works for him. I step away from him that morning and had him give an owl hoot. AsI stood there and listened to him I understood why he wasn't hearing a gobbler reply. His owl hoot sounded great but was very long. Almost sounded like he wastrying to work the judges at acalling contest Anyway, I heardtwo gobblers responding to his owl hooting! The same owl hooting he said never worked.

You should try the other suggestion that were posted but you also try giving a single hoot or a single crow call so that way you're not calling over a possible response(s). If you're a goose hunter try a goose call. The one spot I hunt, there'salways has a pair of geese that take off every morning from the small nesting pond.Boy do they make some noise through out the woods I'm hunting when they wake up and take flight. They always get a gobbler or two to shout out off the limb.Hope some of these tips posted helps you out

Good Luck & Hunt Safe

I should have mentioned, I use the owl hoot onlyearly morning or right at dark for roosting. I also don'tuse until I hear another owl hooting or maybe a gobbler in the distance. If I hear a gobbler in the distance sounding off, I know the gobbler I'm trying to hunt should be awake as well. Same with the crow call, I don't use it early morning until I've heard other crows in the area.

Our turkeys will answer to a loud pheasant call or in some places a peacock call. I've had 'em answer a chain slapped on a cattle gate, a carn horn and best of all this season...artillery & mortar booms from the army testing groundnearby.

I'd venture a guessto recommend a call that matches something they're lilely to encounterwhere you hunt.Withall that being written, I strike a few licks on mybox call andit seemsto work fine.

If your onto some pressured birds, maybe the best locator is your ears. Listen forhens answering a gobble and mimicwhat they do. I'vecoaxed some epic "discussons" out of a few toms just with soft yelps and tree calls.

Last Friday I went to the clubhouse to find me a place to hunt (my spot was taken). I went to some known places (3) and used my owl call to no avail. I went out in the am using the same call and same technique I got a response from area #1. Where I heard the gobblers was exactly where I had called the night before. I have seen that a couple of times. So what works at one time may not work at others, better have a plan B.

Car horn works pretty good. Crow calls work, but only when you are slam on top of the bird. I also think they work better in places there are fewer crows. The birds get used to hearing crows all the time, so they don't pay as much attention to them.

I have heard them gobble at almost everything you can think of. Nothing seems to work like thunder though!

alright thanks for the help

try a coyote howl