410 single shot
I think you be fine with your .410...
02-12-2006 | 02:49 PM
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From: chiefland Florida USA
RE: 410 single shot
ORIGINAL: Oneshot7
i want to know what made you think that the quail is as big as a turkey
i want to know what made you think that the quail is as big as a turkey
::ifly :::::Personally I think it would be easier to kill a gobbler with a .410 than a bow and arrow.
with a gun , it depends on lots of pellets in a small target.depending on breaking the neck of hitting the brain.
all that being said, since you ask, you are not of the opinion that the 410 will do the job either.I think a 410 just doesn't have the # of pellets and energey to do the job.I shoot quail and squirrels with 410 3" #6 and some times loose one because of the above said problem.all the shots I take are real close on the squirrels and some take the second shot. most times the second shot is not there on a big old gobbler.
I would say you need at least a 20 ga. 3" with high brase # 6 shot or better.JMHO
not meaning to step on any toes here , just that I respect the gobblers with a lot of awsom respect.go over gunned any and all times, rather than under gunned one time.
good luck with what ever you deside.
02-12-2006 | 04:25 PM
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From: pineview GF. USA
RE: 410 single shot
shooting with a bow , it's in the body with a large broadhead and it depends on blood loss and breaking back and other bones.
with a gun , it depends on lots of pellets in a small target.depending on breaking the neck of hitting the brain.
all that being said, since you ask, you are not of the opinion that the 410 will do the job either.I think a 410 just doesn't have the # of pellets and energey to do the job.I shoot quail and squirrels with 410 3" #6 and some times loose one because of the above said problem.all the shots I take are real close on the squirrels and some take the second shot. most times the second shot is not there on a big old gobbler.
with a gun , it depends on lots of pellets in a small target.depending on breaking the neck of hitting the brain.
all that being said, since you ask, you are not of the opinion that the 410 will do the job either.I think a 410 just doesn't have the # of pellets and energey to do the job.I shoot quail and squirrels with 410 3" #6 and some times loose one because of the above said problem.all the shots I take are real close on the squirrels and some take the second shot. most times the second shot is not there on a big old gobbler.
02-12-2006 | 07:44 PM
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From: chiefland Florida USA
RE: 410 single shot
ORIGINAL: Ifly
Since I asked what? I didn't ask anything...and I know how an arrow and birdshot kill and there is no way anybody will ever convince me it's more difficult to kill a turkey with a .410 and birdshot that it is with a bow and arrow. I've also hunted small game with .410 and 12ga...and have had game run off with both..just as everyone else has that's hunted very much with shotguns. That is why I didn't recommend a beginning turkey hunter start out with .410..however...there's been probably who knows how many thousands ofgobblers killed with one over the yrs. If you use it like a .410 I see absolutely no problem. If you can't control the urge to shoot out of it's reach...get a bigger gun. I don't buy this ultra mag stuff...it takes 1 birdshot in the right spot in head or neck to kill a gobbler. All this extra high powered bazooka loads are overkill in what used to be normal spring gobbler hunting situations. It's just not my type of hunting to have the odds so heavily stacked in my favor..I like a challenge when I hunt. I alsodon't believe in wasting game..and have lost one gobbler in over 40yrs. of hunting...and he didn't go to waste.
shooting with a bow , it's in the body with a large broadhead and it depends on blood loss and breaking back and other bones.
with a gun , it depends on lots of pellets in a small target.depending on breaking the neck of hitting the brain.
all that being said, since you ask, you are not of the opinion that the 410 will do the job either.I think a 410 just doesn't have the # of pellets and energey to do the job.I shoot quail and squirrels with 410 3" #6 and some times loose one because of the above said problem.all the shots I take are real close on the squirrels and some take the second shot. most times the second shot is not there on a big old gobbler.
with a gun , it depends on lots of pellets in a small target.depending on breaking the neck of hitting the brain.
all that being said, since you ask, you are not of the opinion that the 410 will do the job either.I think a 410 just doesn't have the # of pellets and energey to do the job.I shoot quail and squirrels with 410 3" #6 and some times loose one because of the above said problem.all the shots I take are real close on the squirrels and some take the second shot. most times the second shot is not there on a big old gobbler.
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02-12-2006 | 09:12 PM
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From: Calif
RE: 410 single shot
No question theres far more ethical modern day turkey guns available to todays turkey hunter and I agree Tree we do owe it to the bird to make good clean shots.3 years in a row I guided a little fella that shot a little side by side 410 and is deadly with it.I shot squirrels with him on occasion and he'd drop them dudes out of those digger pines with no trouble,so I made the decision to help him bag a tom!He was 9 at the time and he's going to be 12 and this year will be shooting his sisters 20 gauge but with that said he has harvested 4 toms in the last 3 years shooting that 410 without one gettin away!All these birds were taken inside 25 yards under his dads and my guidance,and that little guy can shoot,"so can his sister for that matter"!!
Anyway heres a pic with him and his dad with that 410...
Anyway heres a pic with him and his dad with that 410...
02-13-2006 | 12:35 AM
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From: Bennettsville, SC
RE: 410 single shot
A #4 pellet coming out of a Winchester 3'' .410 shell is traveling at 1135fps. The Remington's are the same. This is just as fast as some 20ga and 12ga turkey loads. So, pellet to pellet, the .410 would have almost the same energy as a 20ga. and a 12ga.
But there are A LOT less pellets in the .410. This is where the problem is. There is also an issue with the chokes used.
If you can get a turkey within25 yards or so, I will shoot him with my single shot .410 and probably kill him with the first shot every time.
Now with that said. I will be using my new 10ga this Spring.
But there are A LOT less pellets in the .410. This is where the problem is. There is also an issue with the chokes used.
If you can get a turkey within25 yards or so, I will shoot him with my single shot .410 and probably kill him with the first shot every time.
Now with that said. I will be using my new 10ga this Spring.
02-13-2006 | 11:35 PM
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RE: 410 single shot
I shot today and got 5 quail with 8 shots destroyed 1 at about 20 yards
i am shooting AA 2 1/2" with #8 shot
the 410 in question is a 1927 savage with a full choke nothing fancey it just fits and feels good.
i think i will shot a 3" with #4 or #6 shot
after i get some i'll shot it and patern it.
Ithink it will be deadly [:@]
i am shooting AA 2 1/2" with #8 shot
the 410 in question is a 1927 savage with a full choke nothing fancey it just fits and feels good.
i think i will shot a 3" with #4 or #6 shot
after i get some i'll shot it and patern it.
Ithink it will be deadly [:@]
