i am new to trukey hunting. ive been hunting deer with my dad and uncles since i was 12 and now im 17. i was wonderingwhy the heck when i use a raspy old hen mouth call by h.s. strut i cant get it to work. i read the instructions but still nothing. are they hard to get use to? if somebody can tell me how to it i would really appreciate it

Kyle , Raspy calls take more airpresure to operate. Some people find them hard to use and other just fine. It depends on the cut in the call and the airpresure that you feel comforable to produce. Practice is the best with these type calls...BT

For someone new to turkey hunting all mouth calls (or even all calls!) are difficult. I tried to use a mouth call the first year and gave up in frustration. I mastered a push button call, then started using a box call. A year or so later I got a good slate call. About year 4 or 5 I got a set of mouth calls and a good instructional video and it took a lot of work to get it to where I dared try it in the field. I did call one in to my son this past spring using one though. The best advice is to not get discouraged, practice alot, and try different types to see what you are most comfortable with. Good luck.

i was getting really frusterated because i couldnt even get a sound out of it. i found out hat my problem was because i misunderstood the directions that it came with. this morning i put the call in and reread the instructions. my problem was i was sticking the tip of my tongue on the middle of the latex. didnt work to well. i was supposed to stick the middle of my tongue on the latex and the tip against my teeth. now i am getting sound out of it but nowhere good enough to use in the feild. thnx everybody

Ok now that you got it , this may help you carry on ,,,

Mouth Call Placement

The key to mouth calls is Mouth call placement. Having the call placed in the right area in the palette. Another good start is a clear call with two reeds, thats a call with no cuts in the top reed ,(Twin Two)or (Beginner's double). I have found that alot of first timers are getting on the Scream'in Green Pro Triple aswell. Do not start out with a single reed or Raspy calls.

A new call taken from the package ,should be creased down around the frame of the call so that you can see the top and bottom(Tab) of the call. If wanted you can cut down the tape, but I suggest only taking off about 1/16th at a time untill comford is found. Do not bend the frame if at all possible, this will loosen the laytex reeds and sound will drop off.

The mouth call should be set with the front of the Laytex on the middle part of your tongue.
When placement is found, If you don't have the placement right then all the words that you mimic will not help you. The mouth call should be placed in with the Tab of the call down, and the Longest reed up. A beginner should have the gagging refex as the tape from the call is at the back of the throat. Just slightly off the back part of the palette on the fleashy tissue. This is normal and will go away with practice.

By placing your middle front of your tongue up on the call , you will hold more presure on the sides of your tongue up against your mollers to stop airflow from exscaping. The main flow of air is going to travel down the center crease of your tongue and out your mouth. You want to try to keep your lips only open a little and allow the air to come out under your front teeth.

By using your jaw, and your Lungs/Diaphram/Tummy, your going to huff air and use your jaw to regulate the airflow that is exiting your mouth. On every note the caller needs to huff some air out to produce the sound. With the volume of air and the jaw action working togeather, will allow one too take off and apply presure with your tongue too the reed of the call to make the sound needed. By keeping the presure on the reed and huffing air from your chest (Diaphram) and mimicing the words (That have been sudjusted) you should get some sounds that are close to the calls you want. Practice is the next step.

First - Place the call into the proper spot on your tongue and place the Mouth Call up into the Palette, Through your nose you are going to take a deep breath of air and hold it in your chest, slightly open your mouth and softly say the word HECK and stop the air flow on the K of the word heck. At this point your Call, Air presure and Jaw should be in right spot to try the word Kee - Yuk for the yelp. The [b]Kee[b/] part of the call is the High note of the yelp. This note has more presure applied then the Yuk part. With out taking your togue off the call and dropping your jaw you will get the low note of the [b]Yuk[b/]. By keeping a steady flow of air exhaling and appling presure to the mouth call with your tongue and using a on and off presure with your Jaw you should get the proper sounds to make the Yelp.



Yelp - 2 note call High and Low - Kee - Yuk or Che-Yuk speed the two togeather,
Kee or Che being the high note, and Yuk being the Low note

Tree yelp - very soft quiet yelps and limited to 4-5 in a slower rythem,a odd soft cluck can be added aswell to the yelping.

Cluck - One note, fast and cut off quick - Buck, it should sound more like Buk.

Cut - its a Cluck only faster and broken up in beat- with high and low notes mixed -Buk,Pic,Buk,Buk,Cuk Pik Pik,Buk,Pik Cuk Buk,Pik Buk - kind of beat.

Cackle - Is a cluck also , only start off with quiet slow Cluck then into a fast series of clucks then tapered to slow low notes. Buk,Buk, Cuk Cuk Cuk Cuk Cuk,Cuk,Buk,Buk,Buk.
The Cluck,Cackle,and Cut are all Clucks only done with different Beat and Pitch.

Purr, can be done a couple of different ways , by a flapping of the front part of your lips , as kids would do a moterboat in water , or like gargling with mouth wash in the back of the throat allowing the viberations to travel on the front part to the reeds.

After learning the calls another calling success to practice is the Cadence and form of each call , Rythem,Pitch and Tone. This is another important part of a hunters success rate.

Learning to control the call the proper way on every call is a knack that not all can do. I believe Good Calling Comp's with Top knotch callers can help one be a better hunter when it comes to the calling aspect. Not every bird can be fooled,but it sure gives one a lead on presured birds. I believe woodsmanship also plays a roll in the hunt but put the two hand in hand togeather and you can have a deadly hand of success.

Tip:
Mouth Calls , tend to break down over a hunting season. As moisture exsorbs in the laytex and more volume and presure is added to the call to make it work, latex tends to stretch or slip from the frame and the life/sound of the call starts to slip. Buying new calls before the start of the season is a good idea.

Hope that helps out and gets you started on the mouth call.

Adrian J Hare, QuakerBoy Game Calls