lamb1647

I recently purchased a Fox reverse handle longbow from Arrowsmit. I have only shot about 30 arrows through it, but what a pleasure to shoot.

I find it so much easier to shoot than recurves. When I say easier, I mean easier to point at and hit the point on the target that I'm focusing on.

My son, Reylamb, will be 30 a week from tomorrow. I went to Buford, GA this weekend to help celebrate his daughter's 3rd birthday. I carried my CM Firebird along and gave it to him as a birthday present!

I am now committed to longbows! I'm sure they all don't shoot like the Fox, but I have found one I love to shoot!

I have ordered a half dozen fletched arrows with 125 gr field points from RRA, 3 50-55# and 3 55-60# to see what will shoot best out of the bow. I have a dozen 60-65# POCs but they shoot left and angle to the left from my POA when they impact the target. (Hmmmm, maybe I ought to point out they are fletched arrows with thre 5" shield cut feathers!)

I want to shoot wood with Magnus broadheads. Once I figure out what works best with the bow, I'll order a dozen finished arrows.

Bill

Edited by - lamb1647 on 02/03/2002 20:20:39

Chessbum

Now that your a longbow man you need to get rid of those wimpy 125gr fps and get some weight like 140 or better 160gr fps and bhs. Heavy is good. Congrats on new bow.

Toxophiliac

I want a longbow quite badly now. I wish my compound would hurry up and sell. I can't decide what longbow I want though. I have a prospective used Crusader. Some other bows I like too. I don't know.....this is no fun. I need to be rich.

arrowsmit

Sounds like things are going good. I'm really glad you like it Bill. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

lamb1647

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Now that your a longbow man you need to get rid of those wimpy 125gr fps and get some weight like 140 or better 160gr fps and bhs. Heavy is good. Congrats on new bow.
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Chessbum,

I shot 160 broadheads, 3-blade Thunderheads, one year on 2219 aluminum arrows when I was still shooting a compound and had a 65-80# PSE I had set at 74#. I shot a 150# doe in West Virginia that ducked but the arrow still caught her below the spine.

It punched a big hole in her and she bled like the proverbial &quot;stuck Pig&quot;! She made it about 30 yards before she collapsed and expired. Her blood trail was about 4 ft wide.

Yes, I have always been a believer in heavy arrows. I am aiming for a 9-10 gr/PDF arrow/broadhead combo. I'll have to see what I come up with on my test arrows.

It may well be that if I shifted to 145-160 gr, I could use the 60-65# spined arrows I already have on hand! Hm, that is worth thinking about!

Thanks!

Bill

Lilhunter

found myself the very same way...now becareful, there's a looooot of different longbow boywers out there! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>!

as per the 140-160 grain, whats the diff between shooting curves or longbows? I always have been 8-10grains per pound.

lamb1647

When I first started hunting with compounds, speed was NOT the big deal it is today. Most of the bowhunting books and articles I read recommended 9 gr/pdf. I always tried to stay close to that.

I stayed in the 8+ range until I got my Jennings Buckmaster and heard about Gold Tip Carbon shafts with inserts instead of outserts. I bought a dozen Gold Tips to see how fast I could shoot.

I gained speed, but I didn't like the extra noise that ws generated. The noise was the energy that was not being absorbed by the light arrow making itself known by vibrations in the bow. There are those who would say todays silencing technology, i.e., Limb Savers, etc., makes it a moot point. I disagree.

After I got my first recurve, the literature I read recommended 10 gr/pdf for traditional bows. I don't think I have ever reached that level. I get close to 9, but I don't believe I have ever surpassed it.

Heavier arrows absorb more energy and carry more energy downrange. Lighter arrows have lots of speed but shed that speed rapidly. They also absorb much less energy and shed it rapidly, too.

Bill

Broker

Bill,
Chad never did send you those Long Bow Rules, did he?

Darrel

Lilhunter

wont disagree with that Lamb..but as to the 140grain heads or heavier...most of the time, unless your foc is really whacked, there is no need unless there is a broadhead you really like that only comes in...say 160 grain like the hill heads, there are others very similar that can come in lighter weights but the last I saw, the true hill points are still the ole 160 grains they have been since I started! I have a few buddies up here that persist on getting those heavy weights and its humorous to see there arrow flight....partially I think it has to do with there heads and not knowing how to match there set ups to them (increasing enuf in spine to make up for the heads)...when they do, they dont have a bow that is capable of getting those arrows off the shelf let alone through a moose...your right, speed isnt everything! But I do think there is a limit as to how heavy an arrow you have, will actually benefit the penetration you get before you start not only loosing momentum and ke but also your trajectory is really gonna suck LOL! Thats my only challenge...I am actually just under 11 grains per pound of draw shooting 60lbs pulling off speeds of 175-180fps with my longbow (last I checked it was mid to high 40's for ke)....more then adequate for a moose! Most of the whitetail folks though dont need this kind of weight but that we need to be heavy is so ingrained into stickbow folks its crazy...these same folks take 45 and 50lb bows and try and handle my 725gr ash arrows!!! Sure they are gonna penetrate a whitetail, but heck, is your setup really that efficient with that heavy of an arrow with such a light bow...imo I dont think so. Its kinda of a drastic difference but from what I have seen folks are doing just that across the country! I havent ran numbers to prove it, I do however have a buddy who knows this stuff much better then I....I'll pass this on to him and see what he has to say.

lamb1647

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Bill,
Chad never did send you those Long Bow Rules, did he?

Darrel
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Darrel,

Nope!

I guess that means I can just make up my own rules! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bill