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I was going through some of my old VHS tapes the other day and found this video of my hog hunt from 1995. I edited out my buddy's hunt because he used a Ruger .44 mag and that's not Trad related.

We picked Clarkrange Hunting Lodge ( http://www.kenmoody.com/?page_id=2 )because of the Dan Fitzgerald videos. We ran after those dogs half of the morning before I was able to get a pig beyed for a shot.
This was the first and last time I ever hunted with dogs.

BOW: Ben Pearson, Colt
ARROWS: Cedar
BROADHEADS: Bear Razorheads (green)

http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h21/VAbowbender/?action=view&current=HogHunt.flv

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cool video, but how come after the first shot, someone told the guy not to shoot him again? why wouldnt you shoot until the animal is down?

just extra pain that hog goes through, and still dangerous
i dont know JMO

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Um why do you need to use dogs to hunt wild pigs?

I also wouldn't have left the animal to die like that i would have put it out of its misery. Hunting ethics n all.

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Using dogs for pigs is kinda like using them for raccoon or squirrel. You don't technically have to, but it makesfindinghogseasier and you can share your love of hunting with some of your best friends. Your dogs.

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Great vid , beautiful shot . would of put it out of its misery myself , but each to their own . Still a good hunt , Traditional aswell ... even better .

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Interesting.

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Not when they cause an animal pain its not. Theres a reason why the vast majority of the Scottish public wanted to ban fox hunting (go figure). Duck hunting with dogs is great as the ducks are dead most of the time the dog goes to fetch them but im not into the whole letting the animal suffer anymore than it needs to. Quickest death policy for me.

Thats the kinda hunter I am.

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That hog was already dead but just wouldn't give up. The shot not only was a double lung but split the heart dead center. A follow up shot would not have brought the pig down any faster. Not only that but you saw the dogs running around, there was too much of a chance of hitting one of them.

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Here's the way I see it. If the hog had of run like a deer might, you would wait 15-30 minutes before trailing it to give it time to die before running it off even further. Only thing here is that we actually see the death process for what it is. I didn't go back and time it but what was it? 2 minutes tops?

Would I have shown the death process on the video? Probably not. But I didn't shoot the video. va bowbender gave a "graphic warning" so no need to criticize. It was his first traditional kill. I'm still looking for mine. He made a well placed shot with total penetration just short of complete pass through. I've never hog hunted but always wanted to. I enjoyed watching the hunt.

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Nice Shot! WOW those pigs are tough.

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Hey PD--where the heck have you been?

VA, great vid and EXCELLENT shot!

I can vouch for how tough hogs are--they can run a good distance dead on their feet. I don't think a head shot from a high powered rifle would have made it much if any faster.

Also, consider the fact that a cut from a sharp blade is virtually painless. The pig was panicked, but not in pain.

My dad had a pig farm for 30 years or more, and we often slaughtered our own. I've also had a little bit of experience hunting them with archery equipment (spot and stalk). As much as I love deer hunting, I love pig hunting even more. Bad part is I generally have to travel a good distance to do it.

I've never tried it with dogs, and don't have any plans to. Spot and stalk is the way to go IMO, if you like a challenge. If you need some meat, or need to get rid of some pigs on a property (they can decimate a large field of corn practically overnight), dogs would definately help. I've heard of some farmers hireing "professionals" to come in and eradicate a herd to save their crops.

Very tough, very smart, very dangerous animals--a great challenge, especially with a bow!

Chad

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Nice vid and great shot. The first blood was my favorite part. :D

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You just don't get my point do you? Ahhh never mind...:eek:

Graphic pictures/videos blah blah don't bother me, if i am with the animal I would put it out its misery because im actually doing ita favour (it states that in my hunter ed prog) obviously if im hunting deer I can't run and kill instantly (Be good if i could)

But If i see something suffer i aint gonna just stand there and watch it die a slow death.

That was my point..

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I see the ethics police have not paid any attention to when the video was made:D

The ethics in 1995 where a whole lot different to what they are now;)

Nice shot on a nice hog but I dont think you split the heart, double lung for sure.

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Like I said previously, a second shot would not have hasten the inevitable.

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I have the gutting part of the video if you want to see the heart out of the hog with my broadhead hole through it. Trust me it was a perfect heart shot. I thought it would've been high for the heart too.

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Can you post the video? Would be good to see, I like gorey stuff

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Although I wasn't there, I've been around hogs long enough to have no doubts that hog was dead on it's feet--it was running on nothing but adrenaline. Heart and lungs were shut down--another arrow would have just meant another broken arrow, possibly damaged meat, and a greater chance for a dog to get cut on a broadhead. Like VA said, it wouldn't have died (orquit kicking--that pig was dead on it's feet) any faster.

Another thing I'll mention--pigs don't feel pain like we do. They tear into each other--the last one I saw killed had both ears shredded and both shoulders were so scarred up that barely any hair grew on them--that was from his "buddies".

It was hyped up on adrenaline because of the dogs, not pain. Ever cut yourself with something really sharp? Barely hurts, if at all.

Several years ago I read about aguy who was accidently shot with a broadhead--almost died from blood loss--he said it didn't hurt at all.

If you get a chance to talk to folks that have killed several deer with arrows, you'll hear lots of stories about deer being shot and barely even flinching--some go back to feeding, until they fall over a few seconds later.

A properly placed broadhead is one of the quickest, most painless,and most humane ways to kill an animal--1,000 times more humane than anything nature offers.

Chad

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VA bowbender, Where is it? lol (the video)

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Keep the private messages private please--no need to air out disagreements on the open board.

Chad

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Sorry about that. I just got hot headed because I HATE PETA with a vengance.

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Getting close enough to slit a wounded pig's throat? Lordy, girl! NEVER DO THAT! Hogs are tough, aggressive, quick and dangerous critters and those sharp tusks are not to be taken lightly. People have gotten disfiguring wounds, even been killed, by 'dead' hogs that somehow had one last charge left in them.

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On second thoughts maybe not ;)lol

We have started to introduce wild pigs back to Scotland again (they were hunted to extiction many years ago) but never knew that about them.

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Art is right as per usual, I have the scars on my legs from dead hogs and a couple of live ones:D

Never under estimate what a lowley hog can do and how fast they can do it.;)

They can run up to 45mph and get to top speed in a few strides.

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If you haven't gotten acquainted with wild porkers yet, then here's a pic of a hog's lower jaw.

It doesn't take too much imagination to think what kind of damage they can do with tusks like that. The upper jaw has whetting teeth that keep those things razor sharp. They're for ripping and shredding. You can often find a group of hogs by hearing them squeal and grunt when there's a fight going on. They don't have a defined breeding season like deer and such do. They fight when a female goes into heat in their area. Or they fight over food. Or they just fight for no apparent reason. They're experts with their weapons.

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Like I wrote in the very first post, it's on VHS. I'll have to hook up the computer back into the VHS player, record it to hard disk, edit out the other parts, re-record it to a saved file, download it to a posting site then post it here. Sooo...give me a little time, I have to go to work between all that too.:eek:

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Ahh, sorry i missed that part. If its gonna be too much hassle don't worry about it, its cool.

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Sorry, I will not hunt with a person who kicks his dogs. If the dog screws up that isn't the dogs fault, It'is the trainers. I would like to stick my foot up the so caled trainers a__. This is a clip that PETA is looking fore!! Just one more bit of amo for them!! Just my thoughts.

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Yeah, well... I know why the handler kicked the dog. It was attacking from the side the broadhead was sticking out on and he was trying to get the dog away from it without getting too close to the hog himself. Kicked dog is better than dead dog or a humongous vet bill. That's a major drawback to using dogs on a bowhunt for hogs. If you don't get a clean pass through that gives the hog another weapon. Hounds can get hurt just as bad by running into a broadhead as they can by the hog's tusks.

Besides, it's not like he was trying a 60-yard field goal with the dog, for cryin' out loud. He was just getting the dog's attention and making him move. Those boar hounds get pretty excited and obedience goes to pot in the heat of battle. But try to explain that to PETA, especially when a hunter's knee jerk reaction is that negative.[&o]

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Art, it's great to have you back! You explained both things--why you don't even try to slit a hog's throat, and the kick was actually for the benefit of the dog--better than I could have.

Chad

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Bad dogtraining and good amo for PETA. What you see is what you get. What we know in this would is out the window. There are more active PETA than us. We have to be seen in as good a light as possable. Might be a good idea not to film dog-pig hunts and cock fightsbefore they put an end to it cock fights, like they did running dogs for deer in Texas. Sorry you didn't like my comments, the trurh hurts some times. NOW LETS GO HUNTING!!!

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It's not 'the truth.' It's only your opinion.

I will say that there aren't many guides that will use hounds for bowhunts any more, due to the potential for extra risk to the dogs. Things have changed a little in the past 13 YEARSsince that video was made. Or didja miss that part of the introduction? Anyway... Thanks for sharing.

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No I didn't miss that part! Have a great day and a good year Hunting. Your correct, like I said just my thoughts!
Grant

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WF, PETA could care less. They would blast those guys because they are hunters, PERIOD. They would blast them for using dogs, PERIOD. They would blast them for killing the pig, PERIOD. It wouldn't matter if the dogs had on body armour, never got closer than 20 feet from the pig, and the pig had been put down by lethal injection after a last meal of it's choosing.

You have to take into consideration just what kind of fanatical, ideologial, maniacal, flat-out idiots you are dealing with concerning that group. They would eradicate the entire human race for the "good" of animals--except themselves of course.

Chad

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Yes sir you are so right Chad! If I remember right a young kid that was close to dying went on his final hunt (bear hunt). The Peta folks said they wished the kid would die instead of getting his bear. Thats sick!!! It don't really matter what them sicko's think or say or what they see. They will turn it upside, backwards, inside out to make anything into something. The people we should be concerned about are the non hunters, them are the folks we've got to impress with good pics and story's!

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nice hog.

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Ingrid Newkirk, PETA's co-founder and premier nutjob, once said the world would be a far better place if the entire human race committed suicide. I've been waiting for her to set an example for the rest of us, but guess what... ;)

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I'm late to the party here. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with the vid, other than dogs that were a little hard of hearing:D In preparation for my first hog hunt, I've seen plenty of footage of fatally hit hogs that keep truckin' as if nothing happened. They're dead on their feet, they just don't know it.

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That was a real neat video thanks for sharing.

And jeez, I thought I was going to see a dog getting kicked. I'd call that a love tap, and for good reason. :D