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Jasonlester 03-17-2008 07:47 PM

RE: Warf Project
 
Ok I wrote up a big thing about this and used the fast repy (which never works for me) So I lost it all.

Basicaly Bob is the Guru of Warfing bows. I talked with him to see if an old bow I have could be done. He told me he mainly used the black bear risers. He said 90% of the ones he's done are black bear risers and then most of the others were proline and a few of other bows. I have a Proline Tradition series (same riser as tryfoon with recurve limbs. Built as a factory bow) Bob said this are good limbs. I agree the bow is fast.

My thoughts are if your going to do this it should be laminated limbs. Wood limbs may be a bit on the tricky side.
I've made 10 or so selfbows. I wouldn't take this on yet. I suggest, Like Burnie, to build a few bows and once your comfortable then try warfing.

I took a couple pics of a nova and my proline. (Bob likes this riser for the limb pocket and angles. There are just alot more black bears as I understand)

I would think a limb could be made with a built up pad area to make th agles the same.



Jasonlester 03-17-2008 07:48 PM

RE: Warf Project
 
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burniegoeasily 03-18-2008 06:45 AM

RE: Warf Project
 

ORIGINAL: Redneck Bowhunter

Yes, well as for your qeustions I will try to answer them the best I can. I am using an aluminum riser and putting solid wood limbs on it for a takedown bow. I was also concerned with the limb pocket angle but did a rough mock-up with cardboardto see what it what look like. the I bent the cardboard to the Recurve style I like and traced it onto paper. I am then going to make a jig at that curve and steam bend the wood. I did not know that ash wood is prone to break I'll have to watch out for that. Yes the wood will NOT be laminated it is a solid peice for each limb that is to be bolted on in the limb pockets. I have never built/made a bow before and it looks like I have bitten off more than I can chew here but I will give it a try. Thanks guys I'll try to keep you posted.
If you are going with a solid limb, id suggest you get/make a backing strip. You can use the same wood. This way you will not have failure in the limb by it splintering . An unbacked limb will need to follow one growth ring, or be light to insure you dont have limb failure. All you will need to do is rip a piece of your ash stock to 1/8" or less and glue it to the back of your limb. A benefit with this, you can glue your recurve into the limb with out haveing to steam it. Ive never steamed a limb, I always glue in my curves. All you will have to do is glue on your backing strip, clamp it to a caul (your recurve design you are going to make) and let it dry. It will hold the shap and is easier than trying to bend with steam or heat.
Good luck.

Redneck Bowhunter 03-18-2008 09:53 AM

RE: Warf Project
 
Ok, I see what you all mean about the solid wood limbs. I may trysome laminated ones now. Im sure it can't be that hard to do. I see the difference in the limb pocket angle jason. I may have to use your idea and pad it up, but the I will have to be careful and drill the holes in the limbs on a bit of a angle so the bolts enter the threads correctly. I am probably going to try that. By the way your proline looks awesome with the snakeskins on those limbs, sweet bow. Thanks for the advice guys.

Jasonlester 03-18-2008 10:48 AM

RE: Warf Project
 
If you make the laminated limbs you could build up the pad area like my pictue here to make the angle better. (sorry I didn't take the time do do a CAD drawing) Then you can drill based off the flat backside so the angle is right.


BTW thanks for the comment on my proline. I put the skins on there because I didn't like the limb color. Turned out pretty good.





Redneck Bowhunter 03-18-2008 04:01 PM

RE: Warf Project
 
Ok, so when laminating limbs how do you know what poundage you are going to get. Because with the fiberglass you wouldn't be able to tiller it would you? Im going to google it ands see what kind of info I can find. So, Jason I think if I understand your drawing correctly, I should laminate in the area to be built up or add that after the limbs are made? I really like those limbs on your proline. I wonder if the nova doesn't work out, are there proline risers you can buy, by themselves or even a Black Bear I think was another riser that would work?

Redneck Bowhunter 03-18-2008 04:17 PM

RE: Warf Project
 
Well, I searched google but could not find anything on laminating recurve limbs. Can someone point me in the right direction on where to find some info, Thanks.

Jasonlester 03-18-2008 04:22 PM

RE: Warf Project
 
You can find proline risers and others too. I actually have another proline riser that was on this bow. I stripped it and repainted it but it didn't turn out to well, it was gold when I got it and didn't hit me as traditional. So I stripped and painted it. Unfortunatly it pealed on me. I found the one in the pic to replace it. Much better to my eye.

As for the limbs I would make the limb first and then add the angled pad. The one thing you'd have to do is stop the fiberglass where the pad starts. I would think you could make it of any hardwood as its not going to be bending.

As for the weight of the limbs I would check binghams (Sp) projects. I'll look for the website. Anyway. they could set you up with the right stuff to get you close to the weight. As long as your close I think you can do the rest with the bolts. I do know you can sand the fiberglass some just not alot.

Like I said I'm guessing. Haven't done any fiberglass bows. I hope to change that soon.





Redneck Bowhunter 03-18-2008 06:49 PM

RE: Warf Project
 
So, you didn't use any fiberglass in your limbs it is just wood? And how did you glue it all up with that tapered peice in there?

burniegoeasily 03-19-2008 06:11 AM

RE: Warf Project
 
This guy, Hera does a lot of take downs. You might find some of his work at the leatherwall helpful. He is very talented. Heres a link to get you to the leatherwall and one of his build alongs.
http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?forum=23&threadid=170048&messa ges=45&CATEGORY=3


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