Thanks Ossage and Art, that seemed to help. I noticed that I needed to change my grip a little, but when changing slightly, I also had to turn out my elbow a bit more so I did not make contact with my arm. Unfortunately, when experimenting, I had my string whack me behind the armguard. Got a nice bruise from it. [:@]

One other question, my bow is made with a medium wrist grip, and I know where the pivot point is (at full draw). However, when doing this test (not at full draw), I noticed that the bow like to move (point) upward slightly. I don't think this matters though, does it?

Sounds like you might be flexing your wrist up slightly when you do the test, Bob. It's real easy to do that if you don't concentrate on keeping it still while playing with the grip pressure. Since youshouldn't be squeezing the grip like that while actually shooting the bow though, I doubt it be a problem.

Thanks Art.

Arthur,

I went home and did the "torque" test and found that the bow moved the least when the pressure was on the pad under the thumb... But this position feels odd..... Almost as if my palm is off to the side of the bow.... It's doesn't feel nearly as stable as you would find with a good low wrist hold with the middle/bottom of the palm taking the pressure..... Where am I going wrong here? I need pics!!!! By reading your explanations it sounds like the the palm area right of the lifeline never touches the grip.. Is this correct?

Joel, there is no hard and fast rule about it. Much of it depends on how the bow's grip is formed. How thick, how thin, if it's formed centered on the axis of pressure from the draw oroffset/angled to one side or the other...

Another bunch of it is how your hand is formed. Long and lean or short and thick. Long and thick or short and lean. Or anywhere in between. Even the flexibilityof your wrists can come into play. For instance, your low wrist might be lower or higher than my low wrist, depending on whether your wrist bends more or less than mine does. All play a part in how your grip fits a certain bow.

Bows are all different and we are all different. In my hand, most bowslike to ride centered just to the thumb side of the lifeline - maybe about a quarter of an inch - and that's where I'd like all of them to sit when I'm shooting. But not all do.

Sometimes you just gotta use a loose grip, grab the handle however is comfortable for you and let 'em torque, and hope they torque the same way every time. A tight, whitekucklegrip on a bow like that will keep it from torquing the same from one shot to the next.

Thanks........ Back to the bale....... AGAIN