RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

Lilhunter, What has been your sharpening method? I find the Woodsmans to be the easiest head to sharpen. I use only a mill bastard file and have them shaving off clumps of arm hair in no time. I used to try to hone them even sharper on an Arkansas stone, but I found the stone actually dulls them down over what I achieve with just the file.

A new head needs about 30-40 very forcefull passes between each set of blades initially to remove the factory grind. After that, I use successively lighter and fewer passes until I'm down to one stroke per rotation with just the weight of the file on the head.

Oh, and add two more deer for me with the Woodsmans.
Doe, 8 yds from a treestand, dbl lung passthrough.
8-point, 9 yds from the ground, arrow penetrated ~12" from the front of the shoulder (heavy muscle) to the rear of the lungs. :)

RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

AK, thats some real nice deer, and an especially beautiful bow!

I have always used magnus, stos, and zwickeys in the two blade heads, but I have never used a three bladed head. (Except on my compound, and those were Muzzys, but I no longer use them). But the three bladed heads such as the either Woodsmen or Snuffers do interest me. On my two bladed heads, I use a bastard file to remove factory grind, coarse hone, fine hone, and a leather strop to sharpen my blades. I use a ds-24 for all my needs.

But this is what Magnus recommends for their three bladed heads, and I don't see how this would put a good angle on the blade, it seems too steep of an angle on the blade, to get them really sharp.

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Comments welcome!

Edited by - BobCo19-65 on 10/18/2002 08:58:46

RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

AK,

Congrats man!!! I am using diamond files, mill bastard, stones, have seen others using all kinds of tweaked out stuff to strop at the end. I figured someone who has used them and pushes them since they were concived would be able to get them hair popping sharp.....guess I was wrong there. He is using a file to nock the grind down, then a pocket stone to sharpen (takes off less then file), then he strops, I couldnt pop a hair if my life depended on it! I can get them close, but close dont count when it comes to sharp broadheads, either they are sharp, or they aint! I also cant mess with wheels and grinders (big machines), for I need a system that will work that is 1. ligth weight due to the nature of my hunts, 2 cheap, being I am no un employed, and 3 WORKS hehe.

Again congrats and thanks for the tips but for now, as in the past 11 years, I am a zwickey man and it looks like I'll stay that way for some time to come.....

http://www.geocities.com/tradbow007/...dventures.html

RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

Has anyone tried anything like these to sharpend their woodsman or snuffers? They are suppose to put the 24 degree angle on them instread of the 30 degree.

http://www.valleytradarchery.com/Tru..._TAMER_KIT.jpg

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No, I would NOT use one of those things....on Snuffers OR Woodsmans.

First, there's no reason to.

Second, Mike sohm, who own Magnus and also makes the Woodsmans states that it weakens the tips of the heads.

JRW

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I often hesitate to what Magnus recommends through, especially since they recommend using the accusharp tool. I have found this tool to be way too inconsistant in the quaility of the edge it produces. Also, if magnus was at all concerned about the sharpness of their heads, then why are they so dull coming out of the package. I've heard the excuse that it keeps cost down, but I don't buy into that at all. I'm not saying that I don't like the heads, because I do and I shoot Stos two bladed heads exclusivily now on all my bows, which I beleive are made by magnus. I am interested in three bladed heads also (although I have never used one, but have seen others use them), but I am concerned about the sharpness of them. I can get the two bladed heads extremely sharp, but I'm just not sure about the three. And what Magnus recommends for them just doesn't seem right to me. I just want to find out what I can before I buy any. JRW, can you personally guarantee me that by using the recommended sharpening technique used by magnus will get my 3 bladed heads to shave hair? Will a 30 degree angle used on the 3 bladed head be as sharp as the even consistant 24 degree angle that I can get on my two bladed heads? Or will I have to sacrifice sharpness if I go to a three balded head.

Your opinion is important to me.

RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

Mike,

&quot;JRW, can you personally guarantee me that by using the recommended sharpening technique used by magnus will get my 3 bladed heads to shave hair?&quot;

I can't make any guarantees on what anyone else does...but...

I can quarantee you this: My Woodsmans, sharpened with just a single mill bastard file and fine Arkansas stone, will leave a bald strip on my arm, just like my two blade heads will.

After eight deer in the last two years with Woodsmans, I have absolutely no reason to doubt the edge I put on them.

JRW

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I'll second what JRW says about the woodsman heads. Give me a mill bastard file and my stones and about 10 or 12 minutes and I'll have it scary sharp. Shave more hair off your arm than you want and that's no joke. I like these BH's a lot. Not planning on changing.

Strutter

RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

I'm gonna give them a try next year.

RE: Snuffer vs: Wensel
 

Hey AK!!!
Nice deer! BUT MAN! What a beautiful bow!!
Make my pants tight!!!!!