Tuning problem
#12
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Roswell New Mexico USA
Creek, Rest wear on the outside can be caused by several things. Nock point a little too low or over spined arrows will do it. The most common reason however is poor release. If you get a poor release one out of every 20 shots...the rest will wear on the outside, just look at mine!
Feathers only have one purpose on an arrow....To correct imperfections in tuning and form. They do this so well that a set up can be way out of whack and not know. You can not effectively correct flaws with feathers on the shaft designed to hide flaws! You can't correct what you can't see. Some even feel a little kick they can see during the shot is normal, IT's not! Seldom is fletching clearance the problem but the only way to know is bare shaft tune. That eliminates fletching clearance as a source of trouble.
Is your "nock right" form caused or tuning caused??? This is my point... You have no way of knowing. The only way to know is the method I described above. Good tuning, poor form, bare and fletched shafts will group together, just your groups won't be as small as they could be with good form. If they don't group together, that is a tuning problem and by looking at the relation between them, you know what corrective action to take.
John, Mi in Jan? Sounds cold to me! Don't know but I doubt it. Got a Javilina tag for January and our late mule deer season. If I go to shows/shoots, it's just for entertainment/vacation. Got more work than I can do as it is, can't see encourging more! LOL! Have a good one....O.L.
Feathers only have one purpose on an arrow....To correct imperfections in tuning and form. They do this so well that a set up can be way out of whack and not know. You can not effectively correct flaws with feathers on the shaft designed to hide flaws! You can't correct what you can't see. Some even feel a little kick they can see during the shot is normal, IT's not! Seldom is fletching clearance the problem but the only way to know is bare shaft tune. That eliminates fletching clearance as a source of trouble.
Is your "nock right" form caused or tuning caused??? This is my point... You have no way of knowing. The only way to know is the method I described above. Good tuning, poor form, bare and fletched shafts will group together, just your groups won't be as small as they could be with good form. If they don't group together, that is a tuning problem and by looking at the relation between them, you know what corrective action to take.
John, Mi in Jan? Sounds cold to me! Don't know but I doubt it. Got a Javilina tag for January and our late mule deer season. If I go to shows/shoots, it's just for entertainment/vacation. Got more work than I can do as it is, can't see encourging more! LOL! Have a good one....O.L.
#13
Fork Horn
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: westport in USA
Creek>
I would only add one more thing. If you are right handed and shooting Right wing feathers, you need to set the nock index to the FRONT of the cock feather.
If you're shooting Left wing, set the nock index to the rear of the cock feather.
This will help the arrow clear the shelf a little better.
O.L.>
When are you gonna start selling the short ones?
I would only add one more thing. If you are right handed and shooting Right wing feathers, you need to set the nock index to the FRONT of the cock feather.
If you're shooting Left wing, set the nock index to the rear of the cock feather.
This will help the arrow clear the shelf a little better.
O.L.>
When are you gonna start selling the short ones?
#15
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Michigan USA
creek, I shoot a recurve 48 at 28 and I pull 54at 30. 2020s are on the light side. They fly OK with a light head, 85gr 2blade. 2216s shoot much better, as do 6075 game trackers with 160gr heads. BS
#16
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From: Michigan USA
pokenhope, Thanks for the help on the tight fitting nocks, solved one of my problems. I had my broadheads flying great, then things fell apart! I bought some new shafts with different nocks, so I changed them all to match. Changed my anchor and things got better, but arrows were still flying to the right. [strange flyers] my form is not the greatest, haven't shot a recurve in 20yrs. So when I read your answer, it got me thinking [sort of rare thing] , about the nock change and my grouping problems, all started about the same time. I opened up two of the nocks, and my arrows turned back into DARTS. Also went to your website and read the tuning part. Thanks, BS
#17
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Roswell New Mexico USA
BS, You are welcome...Just a little detail folks tend to think doesn't make much diffence but it sure can! On light bows, a tight fitting nock can cut 10fps off your speed too! That is better than 5%....O.L.
#18
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Spike
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Arkansas
I shot 3 fletched and 3 bare shaft Sunday. I think my problem is going to be my release. By the end of the day I was getting them to group together. I noticed that the bare shafts were flying strange. When they hit the target they were almost sideways but grouped with the feathered arrows.
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Spike
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Arkansas
10 to 15 yards.... On 1 group the bare shaft were nock right quite a bit but were grouping with the other arrows. From that distance I thought that the arrows were grouping to the right of the fletched arrows but when I walked up to the arrow the point was with the others but the nock was far to the right. Then the next time it was to the left. That is why I am thinking that I am having a bad release. The nock placed on the string seems to be okay. I think that I am deep hooking my release and this may be the problem. I am shooting with a glove but I have noticed that my ring finger is sore. (Shooting 2 under 1 on top)
I didn't get to much time to shoot so I will try again this evening.
O.L. Thanks for your help.
I didn't get to much time to shoot so I will try again this evening.
O.L. Thanks for your help.




