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RE: Allegiance or not?
I also considered buying the Allegiance this season ,but I'm having a hard time justifying selling my 04 Patriot Dually which I just love .Maybe next season I'll make the plunge for one of BowTech's new line and I'm sure there will be another new flag ship then . I really do like the Allegiance but as other's have said, if you already have a BowTech it's hard to justify the 650.00 for what difference's the new bow will make over your BowTech you already have .
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RE: Allegiance or not?
I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into a Patriot vs. Allegiance thread, but I have a question for Atlasman. Is your Patriot a dually or single cam? As you can see in my sig I have an Allegiance and a Patriot Dually. After getting my Allegiance I liked it so much that I sold 2 other bows that I had and bought the Patriot Dually for next to nothing and set it up. On both bows I have a TR DropZone rest. On the Patriot I have an HHA OL5000 sight, a 6" Stealth stabilizer, Simms module in the back stab mount and a Tru Peep and loop on the string. The Allegiance has a Wild Thing stabilizer, TR Mantis sight, Simms module in the back stab mount, and a Tru Peep and loop on the string. Last night I shot them side by side trying to see if one shot different than the other. The Patriot's draw was definitely stiffer with a smaller valley, but that's well known about the BKII cam. There was a very slight vibration in the grip of the Patriot, but nothing worth worrying about. I tried both stabilizers on both bows and neither changed the feel over the other. They were about the same in terms of noise, but had a different sound at the shot. After comparing them, I wouldn't have bought the Allegiance if I already had a Patriot, but things working out as they did I'm tickled pink.:D Overall, I do like the feel of the Allegiance a little better, but it wouldn't be enough for me to have bought a new bow.
With that being said, what Patriot do you have Atlas? Also, if I remember correctly the Allegiance you shot was 2" too long which would definitely change the feel of the draw cycle with the BCS as I have noticed when drawing BowTech's with a longer DL than my own. I still can't explain the buzz you felt as mine has none. |
RE: Allegiance or not?
ORIGINAL: HuntingBry I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into a Patriot vs. Allegiance thread, but I have a question for Atlasman. Is your Patriot a dually or single cam? As you can see in my sig I have an Allegiance and a Patriot Dually. After getting my Allegiance I liked it so much that I sold 2 other bows that I had and bought the Patriot Dually for next to nothing and set it up. On both bows I have a TR DropZone rest. On the Patriot I have an HHA OL5000 sight, a 6" Stealth stabilizer, Simms module in the back stab mount and a Tru Peep and loop on the string. The Allegiance has a Wild Thing stabilizer, TR Mantis sight, Simms module in the back stab mount, and a Tru Peep and loop on the string. Last night I shot them side by side trying to see if one shot different than the other. The Patriot's draw was definitely stiffer with a smaller valley, but that's well known about the BKII cam. There was a very slight vibration in the grip of the Patriot, but nothing worth worrying about. I tried both stabilizers on both bows and neither changed the feel over the other. They were about the same in terms of noise, but had a different sound at the shot. After comparing them, I wouldn't have bought the Allegiance if I already had a Patriot, but things working out as they did I'm tickled pink.:D Overall, I do like the feel of the Allegiance a little better, but it wouldn't be enough for me to have bought a new bow. With that being said, what Patriot do you have Atlas? Also, if I remember correctly the Allegiance you shot was 2" too long which would definitely change the feel of the draw cycle with the BCS as I have noticed when drawing BowTech's with a longer DL than my own. I still can't explain the buzz you felt as mine has none. I have a 2003 single cam Patriot. I have a Doinker D2 stabilizer and 1 oz Doinker in the rear mount. I shoot a WB rest and Copper John Dead Nuts 5 pin sight. I son't shoot with a quiver on my bow......I do have cat whiskers on string and cables. I shoot a loop and a tubeless peep (don't really know which one actually). You are correct that the Allegiance I shot was at 29"......way too long for me. Maybe that made the draw feel as bad as it did to me.......maybe not. I don't know. I also shot a Switchback that day at 29" and it was as smooth as silk. If it was as fast as the Allegiance I might own it right now. After comparing them, I wouldn't have bought the Allegiance if I already had a Patriot |
RE: Allegiance or not?
Sounds like you know exactly where I am coming from. The biggest problem with BowTech is they make a great bow and it's hard to come out with something to top their past bows each year. |
RE: Allegiance or not?
ORIGINAL: HuntingBry Definitely. There just isn't that much of an improvement from my Patriot to have justified the purchase. The way it worked out for me I now have two great bows that I love. I shot the Switchback after buying the Allegiance. Shooting that bow is a dream, but I still can't get over the grip. Mathews grips have never felt right to me and it's hard to get a good aftermarket grip in lefty. The biggest problem with BowTech is they make a great bow and it's hard to come out with something to top their past bows each year. Couldn't have said it better myself..........the only difference is I have always HATED Mathews grips as well........but the Outback and Switchback feel much better to me then any other Mathews I have ever held.....I agree that the Switchback is just plain SWEEEEEET. Nothing (from any company) I have shot to this point is worth getting rid of my Patriot. Once you own a top end rig these days there is just no room for MAJOR improvements. The technology is nearly maxed out at this point and improvements are coming in VERY small increments. |
RE: Allegiance or not?
Mathews did a good job of improving their grips, but they are still very bulky and prone to torque. I like where Mathews is going, but they would need to do something about that grip before I'd buy another. Besides, with the bows I currently have why would I get anything else?;)
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RE: Allegiance or not?
A grip is nothing more than an accessory, so don't let that hold you back on your choice;). I thought about re-ordering a Bowtech , this time the Allegiance instead of an OG, but my local shop shut the doors about two weeks ago so I am back in the Boonies.
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RE: Allegiance or not?
A grip is nothing more than an accessory, so don't let that hold you back on your choice |
RE: Allegiance or not?
I'm in the process of ordering a custom grip for my bow, less than $50 to my door. Here is a pic.
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RE: Allegiance or not?
Is that a Loesch grip? If not who makes it and do you have a link?
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