Broadhead noise
 

I shot my new Slick Tricks today and I heard a whooosh kinda sound as they flew to the target. I'm shooting these at about 260fps on Carbon Express Selects with Blazer vanes (some offset). Is there any way to get rid of the noise? Should I refletch my arrows using the same fletching but with no offset or helical? Will Bh flight suffer THAT much with no spin? Will the noise spook game? I'd hate to have to spend more money just to TRY some other bh's. [:@]

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I was having the same problem with small broadheads. I went back to muzzys and they are silent... go figure.

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You can try fletching them straight but I don't think that will quiet your arrow. I dont think it's the fletching. Wait for bigbulls or Buckeye to chime in, they have had great success with the slick tricks.

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It's hard for me to believe that it is the BH making the noise but I have no experience with the BH you mention. I would sooner suspect the fletches. I'm assuming you didn't get the noise with your field point. Is it possible that your BH is lighter than your FT? If you are getting an increase in speed you could be getting a "fluttering" in your fletches at the higher speed. I've seen this when using the same fletch and going to a lighter arrow. If this is what is going on, the fix of course is probably a stiffer fletch. Just guessing...

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I had the exact experience with 100 grain slick tricks. I tried different slick trick heads on different arrows and it was the same. Definitly the broadhead. I was shooting a 410 grain Gold Tip XT camo hunter arrow at 10% FOC with blazer vanes out of my 70 # bow at 275 fps. I switched to muzzy's and the "humming" was gone. I also shot all the other different type of broadheads I have and all were silent. Having said that, I actually shot a deer with it the "humming" slick tricks and, if anything, it may have made the deer curious since it was looking right at me and didn't move. The "humming" is interesting. It's got to be an aerodynamic vibration peculiar to this head's design at around these speeds.

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Here's my take. Same BH's same fletch.
I believe the noise is the fletch correcting the flight path of the arrow or the BH not flying perfectly true through the air.
The reason why-
As I was tweaking my bow I could increase or decrease the sound the arrow made while flying through the air by adjusting my center shot in and out.

If the Center shot was off the wind noise was greatly increased.

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I don't think it is your fletching. Blazers are very quiet.

unless of course you have a loose one or a ripped one[&:]

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Dave, I will try messing with my centershot tomorrow, but I have another question. Won't messing with the center shot to get rid of the noise, put my bow out of tune? I tuned my bow for the arrows before I put the Slick Tricks on them, so now if I move the rest it will be out of tune, right? I just don't get it? Is it normal to have to tinker with this stuff this much just to get a good combination of performance and equipment?:eek:

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It very well could be the combination of broadhead and vanes. The vanes may be spinning the broadheads at just the right,or wrong, rpm that is generating a harmonic vibration, or a vortex "signature." All my arrows were fletched helical. I would be curious to see if they still "hummed" with blazers fletched straight.

There was no noise when shooting all the other broadheads I tried so it appears that the broadhead is the common denominator. I don't have access to my gear or I'd test my theory. [&:]

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Before you spend more money on new broadhead try this. Take one of your arrows install your broadheads. When they are tight on the arrow, look to see if they are directly opposite of your fletching. If not, try another one until you have one that is opposite. Shoot and see if the noise is gone. Each broadhead will end up at a different position when installed do to where the thread position was when fletched. Try different broadheads on one arrow until they match. This seems to help reduce noise.;)

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Contenderman, I wouldn't go messing with your center shot on what I posted. All I'm saying is if the arrow isn't leaving the bow perfectly straight my blazer vaned arrows w/slicktricks would make some noise getting to the target.
The slicktrick is a very foregiving head and may allow your center shot to be slightly off and still hit with your fieldpoints.
You say you tuned your bow with that arrow (and that's what the slicktrick literature tells you to do). One way to check your state of tune is to shoot an arrow at 10 yards, step back to 15, then 20, then 25, then 30. All arrows should be pointing back at you- directly (if your shooting a release).
I use the muzzy 3 blade test before hunting with Mechanicals/slicktricks. If I can get them flying true at 30 yards then I know my other tips are also hitting the target with the arrow directly behind them.

The day I heard the difference I was adjusting my rig's center shot attempting to bring my Fieldpoints and broadheads together. The more I moved my CC out the louder the arrows flight became. It was still slamming the target at 20 yards good, just correcting itself (fishtailing) on it's way there.

With all that posted maybe I'm not hearing the noise because the fastest I've ever flown a slick trick was 272fps.

And to add to what Sniper151 posted- I always make my 4 blade broadheads look like a t on the arrow at full draw and not an X (main or one blade vertical, not diagnal). I doubt this helps any, I just feel better about it. I shoot cock vane up so this gets 1 of the 3 vanes lined up.
Try it, you never know;).

Now you've got my curiosity peaked. I will, tomorrow morning, go shoot a slicktricked arrow followed by a 4 blade stinger and listen for any difference. They only go downrange at 255fps out of the rig I'll be using. But that's as good as I can do right now. (my main rig is still in maintenance mode:()

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i guess i would have to try tuning the bow with the broadheads on despite what any literature said. i haven't found a head yet that hits exactly where my fp's do when optimally tuned. dial in at 20 yds, then back up to 30 and still use your 20 yd pin and aim at the same spot. your arrow should fall directly below, in a vertical line, the one you shot at 20. if your arrows are off left at 30 the arrow rest needs to go to the right, and vice versa. i guess this could also be caused by porposeing. do you have bad nock travel? you could also shoot a horizontal line across your target, if your group varies up and down by an inch or more from 20 yds you could try taking a little off of your bottom limb, like 1/8 of a turn, and see if that fixes it. i shoot blazer's and prefer to put a helical on them, specially for broadheads. i really don't think going no offset, so your arrow is not spinning, will do anything but magnify issues, but i'm wrong lots.

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I tried lining up the fletching with the blades this morning, but it's very difficult to line up a 4 blade bh to a 3-fletch arrow. In any case, it didn't work. Then I noticed that the blades were loose on one of the heads while it was installed on the arrow, fixed that....still no joy. I'm really close to going out to buy some muzzy's. Tonight I'm going to try some really heavy arrows (530gr) because I KNOW those arrows are quiet. Maybe I'm just overreacting?

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I just shot a slicktrick tipped blazer vaned arrow and heard no noise. It was actually quiet while in flight.

Maybe, just maybe, I am tone deaf to the noise you two are hearing.

One thing I've gotta mention. I forgot to spin test this head for wobble when I placed it on the arrow and just made sure it was in my "t" formation before flinging it and wolla- the center of the X it cut was within 3/8" of dead on at 20 yards. Gotta love accuracy like that!

If and when you get your muzzies flying good, try shooting another slicktrick and see if any of the adjustments you made for the muzzies helped the noise your hearing on the slicktricks.

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Contender

Let us know how it goes with the heavier arrow. I think you've tried pretty much everything else. [&:]