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Old 01-12-2005 | 11:20 AM
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I shoot a lot of Field archer that consists of shooting fistances of 80 + meters and 9% will carry the arrow further with less drop rate
12% is Good FOC % but I preferr as close to 9% as I can get.
that is just me
I am arrow flight anal[8D]
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Old 01-12-2005 | 11:43 AM
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I've seen numbers as high 15% suggested. And not every one measures FOC the same either, there seems to be a dissagreement on which is correct. My feeling is that 9% would be a bit on the low end for a hunting set up. Not that it couldn't be done though. And we need to keep in mind that Bigpapa shoots pretty light arrows as well, not to mention his bow is most likely tuned very well.

I don't beleive there is an optimum value. Like everything else in archery it really depends on your set up. The type of head you shoot, length of your arrow, weight of your arrow, spine of your arrow, type of fletching you shoot and how well your bow is tuned will all play a part in your FOC.

Some would have trouble getting as low as 9% FOC with a conventional set up, for others it would be the other way around.

Basically what FOC does is cause the nose of your arrow to want to go down in flight. This would in turn cause your tail to go up forcing your flethchings to control the arrow more. Too much FOC hurts your trajectory, too little could make your arrow unstable and unforgiving. A large arrowdynamically challenged head may require more FOC and better fletching to fly well.

The point is to not go real light on foc if you are going to shoot a fixed blade head. 9% would work if you had good spine and a well tuned bow. I have done it with less. I have also shot with 16% and had no problems either.

And the point some of the others are trying to make is that it is about the last thing most of us consider. More important would be spine in my opinion. And if you changed to a heavier tip or lighter fletch to get more foc and your arrow flew better, who is to say it was the FOC, or the fact that you may have changed your spine for the better?

Most common arrow set ups will yeild plenty of FOC, so I wouldn't fret over it. And you can go to Bowjacksons site and it will figure your foc with different components to see what you have or what you could get.

http://home.att.net/~sajackson/archery.html


At least that is my opinion on FOC. Nobody is really right or wrong on this issue, it's just what works best for them in most cases.

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Old 01-12-2005 | 01:28 PM
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I shoot a lot of Field archer that consists of shooting fistances of 80 + meters and 9% will carry the arrow further with less drop rate
I figgered as much... target arrows with nibbs or field points. Problem is, the question was asked about broadheads. I'm arrow flight anal as well, especially with broadhead tipped hunting arrows, and consider stability over hunting distances to be far more important than 80 yard trajectory. Higher FOC = more stability. More stability = better accuracy, easier tuning, more forgiveness in adverse hunting conditions. At least for us mere mortals.
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Old 01-12-2005 | 02:04 PM
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Ya, I was thinking that was kind of high for field archery actually. Don't some of those like 5 or 6 percent? Of course most of them don't use inserts either, just target points.

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Old 01-13-2005 | 04:34 AM
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Too much FOC hurts your trajectory,
Although I'm sure this statement is true, I've never found it to mean much at hunting distances. I've shot 15% and compared it to 12% and couldn't detect any significant difference inside of 30 yards. It can be difficult to find a broadhead/arrow combination that will weigh the same, yet give large differences in F.O.C. It's a natural result of increasing FOC, to have a greater arrow weight. This as much as anything is what hurts trajectory inside of 30 yards, and even that isn't much concern unless the arrow is real heavy.

9% would work if you had good spine and a well tuned bow.
I would probably add - with no wind and no twigs or grass possibly in the way.

Although I don't find a particular FOC that is best, I do find that the higher the number the better arrow flight is. Few people have to worry about getting too high. It's difficult to walk into many bow shops these days and even find a broadhead that weighs over 160 grains. I did a little informal survey of the guys in my winter league and asked what grain broadhead they used. I only asked about 25 guys, and out of that number the highest was 125 grains. You would have to be shooting a very low poundage bow with a very light arrow for a 125 gr head to get the FOC over 12 or 13%.
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Old 01-13-2005 | 05:56 PM
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Thanks for the additional explanation. I shoot GT7595s out of bowtech sc patriots. One is set at 71lbs, the other 74lbs. Both bows shoot at between 278-280fps. I have been shooting 100g slick tricks and would like to give the 85's a try. These arrows seem to have more than enough spine and the bows are well tuned. I can't imagine shooting past 50-55yds even under perfect conditions (I turned down a hell of a mule deer this fall at at 70 even though I practice out to 65). My bottam line is I want as stable and accurate arrows as possible so as to have one less variable. My calculations puts 271/2" shafts right at 9%FOC. Any thoughts? I'm assuming I'll have to wait till spring to check out accuracy and arrow flight at longer ranges when the weather permits shooting outdoors.
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Old 01-13-2005 | 09:02 PM
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HEY CONTENDERMAN, JUST GO www.goldtip.com THEY WILL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. AND THEY HAVE A PAGE WHERE YOU CAN ENTER ALL YOUR ARROW INFO AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE FOC IS ON YOUR ARROW. MAN I THINK YOU HIT A NERV WITH A FEW FOKS
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