Broadhead Selection and Kinetic Energy
#11
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From: Baltimore Maryland USA
My shop is NOT the one in Baltimore that would recommend mechanicals for such a piece of equipment/set-up. I go along with everyone except Todd1700 on this one.
#12
LEN, those of us who know you here know it wasn't your shop. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
And I concur with the above, especially Matt/PA. With your marginal setup use a fixed blade head.
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<font color=red>Rob</font id=red>
And I concur with the above, especially Matt/PA. With your marginal setup use a fixed blade head.
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<font color=red>Rob</font id=red>
#13
Nothing wrong with 100 grain magnus or steel fource either I think you would have good sucess with these choices
If information provided by the members of this board have helped you please let us know .
If information provided by the members of this board have helped you please let us know .
#14
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From: Baltimore Md USA
Thanks for the wonderful feedback. I should however clarify some things. Apparently The Jak-Hammer comes in a couple varieties. The one I purchased is the JAK-HAMMER SELECT-A-CUT (100 gr.) which can be set at 1-1/2" OR 1-3/4". I set them at 1-1/2" fearing that lack of KE may become an issue. I didn't mean to be misleading, I was just uninformed as this was my first mechanical purchase. I opted for the 100gr. broadheads to match the weight of the my field points. Sorry for the confusion.
Also, the broadheads weren't purchased from Len's shop nor from any shop in Baltimore. Len, I wasn't trying to implicate you in offering bad advice or selling me a product that was ill-suited to humanely harvest a deer and if I somehow inadvertently implied so, I sincerely apologize. My purpose is gathering good information so I don't just wound a deer. I'm quite sure we can all agree that that would be the WORST thing that could happen. Maybe if I'd have asked my dealer better questions I would have got a product more suited to my needs. Ask better questions, get better answers, huh?
That being said, and now knowing that the cutting diameter is set at 1-1/2" instead of 1-3/4", does this change anyone's opinion or am I still on the marginal end?
Thanks,
Don
ps. I've found this forum to be a wealth of information and would like to personally thank all respondents. I try to visit at least once daily and look forward to it greatly.
Also, the broadheads weren't purchased from Len's shop nor from any shop in Baltimore. Len, I wasn't trying to implicate you in offering bad advice or selling me a product that was ill-suited to humanely harvest a deer and if I somehow inadvertently implied so, I sincerely apologize. My purpose is gathering good information so I don't just wound a deer. I'm quite sure we can all agree that that would be the WORST thing that could happen. Maybe if I'd have asked my dealer better questions I would have got a product more suited to my needs. Ask better questions, get better answers, huh?
That being said, and now knowing that the cutting diameter is set at 1-1/2" instead of 1-3/4", does this change anyone's opinion or am I still on the marginal end?
Thanks,
Don
ps. I've found this forum to be a wealth of information and would like to personally thank all respondents. I try to visit at least once daily and look forward to it greatly.
#15
Don,
There really isn't much of a difference between the 2 lengths from what I've seen as far as KE requirements.......I'm afraid you are still way lower than what I would consider safe for that size cut, and even that STYLE (swing open) for that matter.
I'd even be leary of you using the small diameter Rocket Steelhead, or even the Snyper.
1 1/2" is still a large diameter mechanical and I would lump it in the same category as the 1 3/4" version......it takes some whoop to get these heads open and keep that surface area moving thru the target,and you truly don't have enough to do both.
Personally I wouldn't let someone out the door with your set-up and those heads if they were hunting with me.......that's how little faith I would have in their effectiveness on every shot.
Frankly I wouldn't even put you in the "Marginal" end for that particular head, you are (IMO) BELOW marginal for ANY mechanical head.......you'll be MUCH better served with a quality fixed head.
Welcome to the board and we'll look forward to having you around!
There really isn't much of a difference between the 2 lengths from what I've seen as far as KE requirements.......I'm afraid you are still way lower than what I would consider safe for that size cut, and even that STYLE (swing open) for that matter.
I'd even be leary of you using the small diameter Rocket Steelhead, or even the Snyper.
1 1/2" is still a large diameter mechanical and I would lump it in the same category as the 1 3/4" version......it takes some whoop to get these heads open and keep that surface area moving thru the target,and you truly don't have enough to do both.
Personally I wouldn't let someone out the door with your set-up and those heads if they were hunting with me.......that's how little faith I would have in their effectiveness on every shot.
Frankly I wouldn't even put you in the "Marginal" end for that particular head, you are (IMO) BELOW marginal for ANY mechanical head.......you'll be MUCH better served with a quality fixed head.
Welcome to the board and we'll look forward to having you around!
#16
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From: Bloomington MN USA
I had penetration problems using the wasp jack-hammers and will never use them again. I'm shooting somewhere around 60 ft-lbs. I think you'd be fine with the steelheads though...
#17
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From: Baltimore Md USA
Ok then, fixed it is. I won't risk injuring a deer if I can at all avoid it. Humane kill or nothing. Doing something like that knowing ahead of time that it was avoidable is inexcusable and makes us look bad (or even worse to the anti's).
How 'bout a recommendation on a low profile fixed BH? As I stated earlier I used to use the Thunderhead 125 and I know they make a 100 grain model. Are they ok or do they have something out even better?
Thanks.
How 'bout a recommendation on a low profile fixed BH? As I stated earlier I used to use the Thunderhead 125 and I know they make a 100 grain model. Are they ok or do they have something out even better?
Thanks.
#19
Mdhunter, you just showed alot of character and earned alot of respect from this bowyer.
There are plenty of great fixed blade heads on the market today, just a short list you won't have any problem with are the Muzzy, (any size), InnerLoc, Wasp SST's, Rocky Mountain Premiers, Thunderheads, 125 or 100,
Perhaps with your arrow selection, the 100 grain line will fit your needs. I recommend 100 grain Muzzy's, but all of those mentioned will do great.
Great post too.
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<font color=red>Rob</font id=red>
There are plenty of great fixed blade heads on the market today, just a short list you won't have any problem with are the Muzzy, (any size), InnerLoc, Wasp SST's, Rocky Mountain Premiers, Thunderheads, 125 or 100,
Perhaps with your arrow selection, the 100 grain line will fit your needs. I recommend 100 grain Muzzy's, but all of those mentioned will do great.
Great post too.
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<font color=red>Rob</font id=red>


