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after speaking with a rep at bowtech things have been worked out. i was told the shop i've been going to hasn't had many issues, but they completely understood why i didn't want to go back. we talked about hunting for a while and went over shops i could drive to, to get new limbs. they were very understanding of my situation and heartbreak. i was never impolite, and never raised my voice, and was never anything but friendly. i was also honest and recounted my experience with the shop thus far and my frustration. during our conversation the rep decided to go ahead and overnight a brand new 2005 patriot sc to me. i'm picking it up in the morning and will be hunting (hopefully) tomorrow afternoon. i'll compare the cam and wheel and any other differences between it and the 2004 and if there are any differences i'll post them tomorrow. i'll also post pics if anyone is interested, but i won't bother if no one is. i only have a binocular digital camera, but i can get a decent pic. it just won't be as high quality as some of the pics i see posted. i wonder if anyone else will have a 2005 yet in NC, or if i'll be the first.

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Great news Gib.

I am sure you will have the 1st 05 Pat in NC.

Good luck with the hunt.

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hey ausie, just curious - i see you're in texas - have y'all ever heard of north carolina down there? (lol)

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North Carolina, lets see- panthers? Nascar track?

Glad to hear your getting a new Pat after all the trouble you've been through.
Let us know how it shoots compared to your 04.

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North where:)

Thats somewhere in Canada isn't it

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had to bring up my panthers didn't ya. cowboys, cowboys, cowboys (lol). yep, we're the 30th best team in the nfl, wahoo!!!! stephen davis just had microfracture surgery on his knee. the odds of 2 running backs on the same team playing again after this procedure are astronomical.

lol, canada. :D i'm leaving the house in 11 minutes to go get it.

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got the new 2005 patriot today. its the same as the 04 except the cam and wheel are anondized grey. they are exactly the same though. the n2 module is still black. they are also switching to square washers for the limb bolts but mine are round. it smokes. got it all set up and almost got arrow flight perfect and went hunting, but didn't see anything. maybe tomorrow. left my sims slide on the old bow and won't be able to finish with the arrow flight perfection until i get another one. i need to move the rest a little to the right but fletch clearance with the cable won't allow it. peace out and thanks bowtech. oh, of course i did the complete setup:
doodle drop
no peep
vbg startrack
sims stab.

oh, i was informed that bowtech is now obtaining ibo speeds with all the silencing stuff on and that's where the couple feet a sec went.

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Silly thought process with the speed reduction- why hurt your number when no one else is?
Like it or not the fps IBO rating sells a lot of bows when people compare brands and models they are looking at.

That explains the speed difference, where did the 1/8" brace height go?

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i should add that i was told by bowtech that the 04 and 05 are essentially the same and by the shop owner the reason for the change in ibo, so take the ibo thing for what its worth.

also, the shop owner shot the bow before i arrived - would this bother you? i kind of wanted to get it out of the box. it was sent for me.

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Given the history of difficulties, I think the dealer wanted to be sure the bow was ok when you picked it up. In his place, I probably would have done the same.;)

UR