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BowTech_Shooter 11-03-2004 08:38 AM

More 2005 BowTech Specs...
 
Not responsible for typo's...;):D


Equalizer system

Allegiance 7” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25”-30” draw, 33 ¾” ATA, 4.3 lbs., 322-328 fps. IBO, SRP $749.00.

Constitution 8 ¼” brace, 40-50-60-70 lb., 26”-31” draw, 41 ¼” ATA, 4.6 lbs., 300-308 fps. IBO, SRP $799.00

Defender 7 ½” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25”-30” draw, 31 3/8” ATA, 3.3 lbs., 305-313 fps. IBO, SRP $649.00

Old Glory 7 ¼” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 26”-31” draw, 37 ½” ATA, 4.4 lbs., 315-323 fps. IBO, SRP $749.00

FreedomCam

Independence 7 3/8” brace, 60-70 lb., 26”-31” draw, 40” ATA, 4.8 lbs., 290-298 fps. IBO, SRP $799.00

Justice 8 1/8” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25 ½”-30 ½” draw, 31 ¼” ATA, 3.12 lbs., 294-304 fps. IBO, SRP $639.00

Liberty 7 ½” brace, 50-60-70 lb. 25 ½”-30 ½” draw, 33 ¼” ATA, 4.2 lbs., 296-304 fps. IBO, SRP $729.00

PBR 7 1/8” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25 ½”-30 ½” draw, 34” ATA, 4.1 lbs., 297-305 fps. IBO, SRP $849.00

Infinity Cam

Mighty Mite 7 ½” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25”-30” draw, 31 ½” ATA, 3.12 lbs., 310-318 fps. IBO, SRP $619.00

Patriot 6 7/8” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25”-30” draw, 33 3/8” ATA, 4.1 lbs., 318-326 fps. IBO, SRP $719.00

Tomkat Package 8 ¼” brace, 60-70 lb., 26 ½”-31 ½” draw, 32 ½” ATA, 3.12 lbs., 300-308 fps. IBO, SRP $499.00

Dually

BlackKnight 5 3/8” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 26”-30” draw, 36 ½” ATA, 4.3 lbs., 342-350 fps. IBO, SRP $749.00

Youth bows
All new Rascal Cam


Miranda 8 ¼” brace, 40-50-60 lb., 22”-27” draw, 32 ½” ATA, 3.8 lbs., 267-275* fps. IBO, SRP $399.00

Rascal 7 ¾” brace, 20-30-40 lb. 20”-25” draw, 25 ¼” ATA, 2.3 lbs. 246-254** fps. IBO, SRP $289.00

*tested at 27” draw, 60 lbs. with a 300 grain arrow.
**tested at 25” draw, 40 lbs. with a 200 grain arrow.

Rangeball 11-03-2004 08:41 AM

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Allegiance 7” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25”-30” draw, 33 ¾” ATA, 4.3 lbs., 322-328 fps. IBO
:D


SRP $749.00.
:(

Still plan on test driving one though...

mjqood0 11-03-2004 09:06 AM

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The Allegiance stood out to me too! Fast, medium length and a shootable brace height...

But how do you guys afford this stuff? My last truck -- NO JOKE -- was a old cherokee and I paid $500 for it. Runs fine! Great winter beater.

Guess I'll have to re-mortgage my house ...

or just save pennies :D

jmac_or 11-03-2004 09:12 AM

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I am with you mj. I just look and drool. Look at it this way, the used market is always good coming from the guys who can afford the new bows. :D:D

By the way, the Old Glory looks just about perfect to me.

JMAC

Rangeball 11-03-2004 09:20 AM

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This bow would/will cost me more than I paid for my last 3 combined... :(

JeramyK 11-03-2004 10:54 AM

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I'll definately be sampling 2 or 3 of the new BowTechs. I'm going to try and hold off till after the late PA archery season in January though. :)

mjqood0 11-03-2004 10:57 AM

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For those who have actually purchased a BowTech, did you pay full SRP?

I'm reaching for any hope here....[X(]

walks with a gimp 11-03-2004 10:58 AM

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Hey,,, all the cool kids are doing it:D You can be cool too,, just save your pennys, drink water instead of sodas, macaroni and cheese isn't all that bad either[&:]:D

MO_Bowhnter 11-03-2004 11:34 AM

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The defender's specs look great to me. Short, pretty fast, and respectable brace height. Plus its the cheapest at $649. Too bad that's $649 more than I'm willing to pay.[:@]

The joys of college.:D

Techy 11-03-2004 11:39 AM

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Allegiance 7” brace, 50-60-70 lb., 25”-30” draw, 33 ¾” ATA, 4.3 lbs., 322-328 fps. IBO, SRP $749.00.
I am probably going to own this one.



I think this is going to be a HUGE seller for Bowtech;):D

Techy 11-03-2004 11:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: mjqood0

For those who have actually purchased a BowTech, did you pay full SRP?

I'm reaching for any hope here....[X(]
No my shop sells them for about $50 dollars off that. Hopefully we will do that again this year.

JeramyK 11-03-2004 12:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Techy


ORIGINAL: mjqood0

For those who have actually purchased a BowTech, did you pay full SRP?

I'm reaching for any hope here....[X(]
No my shop sells them for about $50 dollars off that. Hopefully we will do that again this year.
Same here. My local shop is usually $50-75 below SRP. I gave them a call but they don't have any info yet on new pricing.

mjqood0 11-03-2004 02:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: walks with a gimp
Hey,,, all the cool kids are doing it:D You can be cool too,, just save your pennys, drink water instead of sodas, macaroni and cheese isn't all that bad either[&:]:D
Ya... but i'm married...[&:]

Rangeball 11-03-2004 03:28 PM

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Ya... but i'm married...
Talk about an expensive way to fling a shaft...

:D

Trushot_archer 11-03-2004 04:09 PM

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Hey Pat...am I off base to assume the Allegiance and the Patriot have the same rise and the BK and the Old Glory as well? Just different limbs and cam options??


I'm really torn btw the Old Glory and the Allegiance already and I haven't even seen or shot them:)

For those worried about price here's a hint...

Everyone bug Frank to do a review on the one you want...than buy it cut rate from him in a month or two:D;) he's made of $$ Right?;):D

Swamp Dawg 11-03-2004 05:49 PM

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Liberty 7 ½” brace, 50-60-70 lb. 25 ½”-30 ½” draw, 33 ¼” ATA, 4.2 lbs., 296-304 fps. IBO, SRP $729.00
Just curious, but why did the IBO rating go down 4 fps from last year? When I bought the Liberty last year it was 300 to 308 fps. :eek:

Swamp Dawg 11-03-2004 05:50 PM

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That Allegiance does sound sweet. I'm so happy with my Liberty, I can't imagine getting rid of it so soon. Maybe next year.

DaveC 11-03-2004 07:05 PM

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Swamp dog, I'm with ya.

The Solo Patriot LOST speed and brace height???? waas up wit dat?

If I start moaning about torquing my bow it's because I'll be gripping my 04 Pat a little tighter.

Get your 04's while they're hot???

Techy 11-03-2004 08:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: DaveC

The Solo Patriot LOST speed and brace height???? waas up wit dat?


Really, why did that happen and how???


DaveC
I meant really in agreement not as a question[8D]

DaveC 11-03-2004 10:52 PM

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Techy, if your joking- I laughed. If not- I'm comparing the )04 solo Pat's specs to the 05's.

Not sure how or why, but the 04 Pat is listed at 7" brace 320-328 IBO
The 05, according to this thread, is listed at 6 7/8” brace 318-326 IBO

My 04 has not lost any speed, although it has always IMHO been a tad shy of the 320 mark- so maybe the new specs are just closer to what would be the truth in my case.
The brace on my bow is 7", where did the 1/8" go in 05?

Swamp Dawg 11-04-2004 05:54 AM

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My 04 has not lost any speed, although it has always IMHO been a tad shy of the 320 mark- so maybe the new specs are just closer to what would be the truth in my case.
I found this to be true with my Liberty as well. I think 300-308 was a little high for IBO. If this is the case, atleast Bowtech is owning up to it and putting a more accurate IBO on their bows.

JeffB 11-04-2004 06:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Swamp Dawg


My 04 has not lost any speed, although it has always IMHO been a tad shy of the 320 mark- so maybe the new specs are just closer to what would be the truth in my case.
I found this to be true with my Liberty as well. I think 300-308 was a little high for IBO. If this is the case, atleast Bowtech is owning up to it and putting a more accurate IBO on their bows.
Hmm..if the all the new F-cam bows come with that big 5" idler, and slightly different cam (from the pics it looks slightly different), that could be the speed loss shown on those models. Also notice the available draw lengths run 1/2" longer than last year. Or it's simply the draw lengths are tighter spec'ed this year.

Bmott 11-04-2004 12:48 PM

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I failed to see a 32" draw length model available. A great line of new bows but I guess not for everyone !
bmott

PABowhntr 11-05-2004 06:53 AM

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Everyone bug Frank to do a review on the one you want...than buy it cut rate from him in a month or two he's made of $$ Right?
I saw that Trushot....;)

Mental note- Don't sell any of my "used" bows to Trushot Archer....

:D

The Jennings CK 3.4R should be up on Ebay by this weekend. ;)

Rangeball 11-05-2004 07:26 AM

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The Jennings CK 3.4R should be up on Ebay by this weekend.
Righter after you post the review, right?

:D

PABowhntr 11-05-2004 07:51 AM

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Hee hee...I knew you would be the first one to comment after I left that post. :)


Yep, got the pics together the other night and will finish putting together the written part. ;)

Trushot_archer 11-05-2004 09:46 AM

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Mental note- Don't sell any of my "used" bows to Trushot Archer....



Awwww....Come on Frank! I can expect my Old Glory around February or so?? You know that's when my Birthday is.....;);):D

Kanga 11-05-2004 10:18 AM

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Gee Kelly I was hoping he would get the Allegiance first that way I could snag it off him in late January :):eek:;):D

atlasman 11-05-2004 10:42 AM

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Man..........I paid $600 for my Patriot 2 years ago.

Now it sells for $719??


YIKES

BowTech_Shooter 11-05-2004 11:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: atlasman

Man..........I paid $600 for my Patriot 2 years ago.

Now it sells for $719??


YIKES


You may have paid $600.00 for your 2002 Patriot but the SRP was $699.00 so they really haven't went up but just $20.00.

muzzyman88 11-05-2004 01:48 PM

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Please tell me those aren't really what we'll pay for these bows this year....

Buck Magnet 11-05-2004 05:33 PM

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Wow, the specs look good, maybe a little more speed out of each bow would be nice, but hey, I will take a smooth drawing, quiet, shock-free bow over a speed demon any day!

Prices seem high, but most shops sell them for a good bit less than the MSRP! I got my Liberty last year for $649.00

I really like the new offerings but I don't see anything that I would consider a big enough improvement over my Liberty to spend the extra cash, but I say that only because I havn't felt the new Equalizer cam! As soon as my pro-shop gets the Allegiance in I will be going to test shoot it, but it will have to be a big step up from my Liberty for it to come home with me!

Come on Frank, test the Allegiance out and when you are done with it, just send it my way, I will even be nice and pay for the shipping :D

silentassassin 11-08-2004 06:52 AM

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Frank,

I know the Old Glory is a little bit out of your length preference range but if you happen to get one and then decide to sell, shoot me a PM.

PABowhntr 11-08-2004 07:55 AM

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You guys are horrible. I do not even think I have sold any of my used bows to any of you and yet you still are on me like ticks on a deer's ...... :)

...and for the record, I am going with the Constitution as my first Bowtech for the year. [:-]

:D

Trushot_archer 11-08-2004 10:07 AM

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That's cool Frank....But my indoor league starts the firsy week of Jan.

Deadline brother...deadline;):D:D

bowtechshooter86 11-09-2004 12:57 PM

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Yea hopefully the dealers will give us a break. I gave $590 for my justice.

KIDD642 11-10-2004 07:27 AM

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Thanks for the info BOWTECHSHOOTER. sounds like an awesome line-up:)

Kelly/KY 11-15-2004 07:08 PM

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Screw it...it's just a christmas bonus. I'm ordering my Allegiance tomorrow. It's looks too good to not buy. Keep your fingers crossed that they'll have one in stock!!!!! I may test drive this one before the weekend.

Timbawolf98 11-16-2004 11:22 AM

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I'm gonna try to put my order for an Old Glory for Christmas in with the big man downstairs aka my dad sometime this weekend, my sales pitch is I need a faster bow for 3D and a more forgiving one for indoor (sure hope it works).... I love being a teenager :D

Timbawolf98 11-16-2004 07:21 PM

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Update: I called my shop today to see when the new bows would be in and if a BowTech rep would be by soon so I could go see the new bows. Not only is the rep not coming by, but my dealer hadnt seen any of the new specs or pics, he hadnt even heard of the Equalizer system! I got his email and emailed him the specs and pics of all the new stuff. But it seems really weird that the public knew about all this before a dealer did, what do you think? (maybe Pat can shed some light on this?)


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